Iranian Minister Homayoun: 9/11 plane impacts "a make-believe scene"
9/11 incident, a make-believe: official
Moscow, Oct 27, IRNA
Iran-Russia-Dialogue
An Iranian official here on Friday mocked the 9/11 story presented to the world public opinion by the US.
"What we watched on the TVs regarding slamming of two planes into the New York Twin Towers, was in fact a make-believe scene," said Iran's Deputy Culture and Islamic Guidance Minister and head of Iran's Culture, Art and Communications Research Center Mohammad-Hadi Homayoun in an address to the Iran-Russia Dialogue among Civilizations Conference in Moscow.
Homayoun stipulated that the sky-scrappers were destroyed through bomb explosions, adding that after massive media propaganda of the US the crusades began.
Criticizing Hountington's theory of Clashes among Civilizations, Homayoun said the theory was formed to justify clashes and tensions among civilizations and cultures.
Meanwhile, touching on a quarter-a-century chronology of the globalization process, Iran's Presidential advisor Mohammad Nahavandian told the audience for his part that global village is in need of human relations more than satellites and the internet.
"Communications are today only responsible for preparing the technical ground for the relations; and as long as there is no cultural cooperation, there will be clashes among civilizations," announced Nahavandian.
Accusing the US and the Zionist regime of adventurism and of opposing the idea of dialogue among civilizations, Nahavandian said that Iran and Russia are advocates of dialogue among civilizations and cultures.
He called for expansion of cooperation between Tehran and Moscow for promotion of democracy on the international level.
News sent: 20:12 Friday October 27, 2006
http://www.irna.com/en/news/view/line-16/0610274679201251.htm
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Do you understand how
Do you understand how disrespectful and disgusting it is to put a cartoon on an image of a building that people were about to die in? You make me sick!
Calling the kettle black.
You attack me personally without introducing new content?
I was banned from 911blogger for it.
The people died. They are dead.
How do you know they find it disrespectful?
How about the Iranian?
Wasn't it disrespectful to call the scene where people died "make-believe?"
You fall into the trap of the perps. They want us to discuss ourselves, not them. We are supposed to get totally confused, irrationally enraged and atomize into millions of powerless fractions. "Conspiracy Theories" are only theories as long as people cannot accept "the facts".
Here is another fact that people axiomatically blank out of their reason-based universe, and thereby decend into "the New Normal"
My post here must be the biggest news for a while (yet somehow I am sure it will not make it to the front-page, nor will I getting a 'heads up')
Disgusting
in my opinion - putting a cartoon character on the side of the tower is not only bad taste - it is intentional bad taste. this is similar to the cointelpro of the 1960s where coloring books of police - depicted as pigs - were handed out.
further - Judy Wood's research described the towers in terms of the Keebler elves.
further - Judy Wood's new paper uses images of Warner Brother cartoon characters recovered at ground zero and remarks - "look - not a scratch on the Road Runner" - to prove her point about Star Wars energy beams.
Gee - why is it so necessary for all you LEGITIMATE researchers to use such RIDICULOUS imagary of cartoon characters to make your SCIENTIIC cases?
could it be intentionally designed to embarass?
Can't you guys make a scientific case WITHOUT using cartoon characters?
hmm???
my opinion: this is cointelpro intentional disinformation.
i would ask the readership of 911Blogger to ask themselves WHY the government would need to launch a cointelpro against this movement - if they have nothing to hide?
John - I agree with you, and I disagree with you...
John, as you will see below, I agree with Dem Bruce Lee Styles and you that use of the cartoon graphic in this blog was inappropriate.
However, would you please stop carrying on your personal arguments and personal attacks against Dr. Judy Wood, Dr. Morgan Reynolds, and their work from thread to thread?
To end on a positive note, John, thank you for not repeating the false assertion that Wood & Reynolds were or are proponents of the mini-nukes hypothesis (which they have never supported, as you know).
But - it is my personal opinion
that the research of the no-planers - Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood which advocates the mini-nukes, star wars beams, no-planes, Keebler elves, cartoon characters are all connected - as they appear to all support each other.
it is my opinion that this is intentional disinformation and research without merit.
so - no - i will not stop expressing my opinion on this.
John - I ENCOURAGE you to continue to express your opinion...
John, as you know, I encourage you and others to continue to express your opinions.
However, to the best of my knowledge, you know that none of the so-called no-planers have ever proposed that mini-nukes disintegrated the WTC towers.
For you to continue to say or imply that Dr. Wood & Dr. Reynolds have said that mini-nukes disintegrated the WTC towers may discredit you more than it discredits them.
Some people may want for you to be discredited. I do not.
Yeah, Iran also had some
Yeah, Iran also had some interesting things to say about the holocaust...like that it never happened! Get real.
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When did "Iran" say the
When did "Iran" say the holocaust never happened? Do you have a source for such a statement?
Countries don't say things. People do. If you're refering to Ahmadinejad, I think you should read this.
Sheep Dipping 9/11 Truth & the Deliberate Clash of Civilizations
Thank you for posting the above, U2. Very interesting. However, given that the Iranian official's words were already sufficiently provocative, I agree with Dem Bruce Lee Styles and John Albanese that the graphic that you chose was inappropriate.
"Sheep Dipping" is a spook community phrase, meaning to associate someone or some idea with some other group or idea that the public finds to be either good or bad. Thus, if the Iranian official speaks "9/11 Truth," then the mainstream media and the American mainstream may begin (or continue) to think that "9/11 Truth" is false.
Along these lines (and although I like much if not most of what Hugo does), we now also have Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez calling for renewed investigations of 9/11. Of course, Hugo & the Iranian Mullahs are correct in most of what they say about 9/11 and the deliberate Clash of Civilizations. However, does it really help us for them to say it?
What few may recall is that the Mullahs were installed as the leaders of Iran by the U.S., the U.K., and the whole G8+ (G7+ in 1979). What even fewer people may know is that the oligarchs of the U.S., the U.K., and the G8+ have continued to support rule by the Mullahs ever since 1979 -- even now (despite appearances).
Although Iran may soon play "Follow the Leader" to North Korea on a nuke test, and although the U.S. and/or Israel may then indeed bomb Iran's nuclear & missile launch sites, such bombing would ALSO support continued rule by the Mullahs -- just as 9/11 increased the popularity of President George W. Bush.
The top Mullahs have taken $500 Billion of the money that they stole from the Iranian people out of Iran into international banking centers. Many if not most of the top Mullahs have planes that are ready to take them outside of Iran during the possibly-impending nuclear weapons test and subsequent bombing strike (about which they are fully aware).
Although 75% of the people of Iran (Muslim & non-Muslim) oppose continued rule by the Mullahs, bombing Iran would probably reverse this percentage. The people of Iran would then support their leaders (whether they like them or not).
Given that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stated that he intends to wipe Israel off the face of the map, some in Israel do not feel that they would have any other choice except to bomb Iran's nuclear weapons facilities (if & when they are proven). I disagree. Israelis do have other choices that they can make...
Neither the U.S. nor the U.K. nor the other oligarchs of the G8+ (nor Israel) have effectively supported the legitimate aspirations of the Muslim & non-Muslim people of Iran in achieving "A new revolution & regime change in Iran (by & for the people of Iran)." Why? Because ALL of the oligarchs of the G8+ (but not Israel) are in favor of continued rule by the Mullahs in Iran (really).
Now we have the Iranian Mullahs reverse "sheep dipping" 9/11 truths -- almost on cue. What more could the 9/11 Cover Up Perps and the 9/11 PsyOp Perps ask for? I don't know. Do you?
We should be grateful for any support on 9/11 truth that we can get. However, support from the Iranian Mullahs and from Hugo Chavez is a mixed blessing.
Disgusting? Who killed them?
Correct me if I am wrong.
If have not seen the murder by stealth being called disgusting.
Again.
Facing the issue at hand is important.
Discussing matters of (poor) taste is a perp heaven.
The Roadrunner-in-tower-imprint enrages because it implies that
- we were video-tricked
- we suddenly know even less (like where are the planes)
The fact (yes, check the physics) that no 767 hit wtc2 is vehemently opposed, ignored and ridiculed, and any accusation is used to avoid an open discussion.
Everyone can decide what leaves a worse taste.
Likewise, an iranian person we know nothing about is dismissed because another iranian person said something. I hear perp laughter now.
Good night, America.
by that logic.......
.......the perpetrators of cointelpro - intentional disinformation - are complicit in the murders.
IRANIAN MINISTER = NO PLANER
PLease answer my questions with yes/no
1) Can you agree that the Iranian Minister is a NO PLANER?
> why is it so necessary for all you LEGITIMATE researchers
> to use such RIDICULOUS imagary of cartoon characters
> to make your SCIENTIIC cases?
"If you are not offending people who ought to be offended, you're doing something wrong." Noam Chomsky
Why are cartoon characters offensive? I know people who decorate graves with fluffy dolls and they are the most loving and caring people! Just because some find it poor taste, why should one reprimand them? Different people, different style, eh Dem?
I tell you why it is offensive to you.
The implication of the fact that no 767 hit wtc2 is offensive to you.
I suspect you are using the respect for the victims for your own gain in this argument.
2) do you agree?
With Mattingly's wonk-reverse-reverse-logic it could be argued that Albanese's (and other's) refusal to face the NoBigBoeing music means he has interest in the status quo
- 911 unsolved = Albanese stays an authority.
- 911 research moves on against his will = Albanese left in the rain
But we won't do that. In the USA, his criticisms are just as legitimate as the geneva conventions, right?
> Cointelpro
SchmointelPro.
Mattingly, your rant is spiked with plain untruths and your conclusions are hence not helpful.
Can you all please address the subject::
Iranian Minister Homayoun: 9/11 plane impacts "a make-believe scene"
I try another desperate attempt to talk about the subject at hand:
I presume the Iranian Minister is a clever person.
I presume he was mostly expressing his personal opinion (regarding his statement on 9/11)
I am SURE HE IS RIGHT.
Now, would the fact that a CURRENT OFFICIAL accuses the USA-admin of such a heinous crime not either
- demand a retraction and apology
- or demand an investigation?
3) So far logical?
I BELIEVE the FBi is totally corrupt. In the climate of the THE NEW NORMAL (read it, Americans!)
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2006/10/usa-turning-its-back-on-enli...
anyone criticising the USA-admin is to be ignored.
4) Is this safe to assume, too?
5) When is the people's tribunal?
6) Will it last for the many months that are needed to hear everyone?
7) What resources should we REALISTICALLY going to give the people's tribunal?
8) Who will be the presiding judge?
9) Is it at all possible to have a 911 trial inside the USA?
10) If not, should the "case 911" not be referred to THE HAGUE?
Iranian Minister...
Has anyone got his phone-number in the Moscow Hotel?
A Combination Iranian / 911-Perp Coordinated PsyOp???
Hi, u2r2h:
You ask: [Can you all please address the subject:: Iranian Minister Momayoun: 9/11 plane impacts "a make-believe scene"]
Yes, U2, you are quite right that the Iranian Minister appears to be endorsing the 9/11 No Big Boeings & TV Fakery hypotheses. In Moscow, Iranian Minister Mohammad-Hadi Homayoun said: ""What we watched on the TVs regarding slamming of two planes into the New York Twin Towers, was in fact a make-believe scene." My understanding is that Minister Homayoun also wore a Nico Haupt T-shirt under his clerical garb (LoL).
Of course, the Iranian Minister's remarks cut both ways. Those who like the Mullahs may now think more favorably about the NBB & TVF hypotheses. Those who don't like the Mullahs may think less favorably about the NBB & TVF hypotheses. And John Albanese & DBLS may now dislike the Mullahs (LoL). Unfortunately, many if not most people decide what to believe based on whom they like (and to a lesser extent in the converse).
Some in the mainstream media may now become even more critical of the Mullahs based on their arguable assertion of the NBB & TVF hypotheses. This will give John Albanese & DBLS more ammunition to use against the NBB & TVF proponents -- thus further polarizing the debate (in a semi-unwitting PsyOp / PsyWar sort of way).
Given my knowledge of what is going on with Iran (which is decent), this may be a perfect PsyOp -- directed BOTH at the 9/11 Truth Movement (to cause more internal dissension) AND against the Mullahs (to make them appear to be even more odious in the minds of mainstream America & others).
The same international perps that installed the Mullahs in Iran in 1979 may be the same perps who were at the top of the food chain on 9/11. After much research, my working hypothesis is that the oligarchs of the G8+ are the top-level 9/11 Perps and that Boy George, Tricky Dick Cheney & Rummy are witting, deliberate patsies (with limited foreknowledge, but yes, they are now a semi-witting part of the 9/11 Cover-Up Perps' team).
As previously indicated, based on my research & meetings in DC, NYC & elsewhere (with proponents, opponents & neutrals), my working hypothesis is that the NBB & TVF hypotheses are probably true. However, I am open to any & all scientific & other evidence that shows that these hypotheses are false. I encourage John, DBLS & others to show us this additional evidence.
Nevertheless, I do NOT think that many of the 9/11 WTC eyewitnesses are lying. Most of them are firmly convinced that they are telling the truth and that 'they saw what they saw.' Eyewitness testimony under oath would be admissable in court -- as would some or most of the 9/11 videos of Big Boeings in the area and of "Big Boeings" allegedly hittng the WTC towers (along with expert witness testimony about these videos). Other reliable scientific evidence would also be admitted.
You also say: [[[With Mattingly's wonk-reverse-reverse-logic it could be argued that Albanese's (and other's) refusal to face the NoBigBoeing music means he has interest in the status quo
- 911 unsolved = Albanese stays an authority.
- 911 research moves on against his will = Albanese left in the rain
But we won't do that. In the USA, his criticisms are just as legitimate as the geneva conventions, right? Cointelpro SchmointelPro.
Mattingly, your rant is spiked with plain untruths and your conclusions are hence not helpful.]]]
Please let me know what part of my admitted rant that you think is untrue. I can support everything that I say about Iran (& otherwise). Webster Tarpley, others & I have spoken extensively about these matters; and Webster & some others also disagree with me. These are controversial areas, and I am opening myself up to a lot of criticism. Bring it on...
I support the rights of John Albanese, DBLS, and others to express their opinions and (especially) to present scientific & other evidence for their assertions. 911 Blogger should be an area in which free speech is encouraged -- even from those that others, you & I may not like.
I appreciate your blogs & most of your comments, and I was appalled when you were banned & when your "Beam Weapons" blog was deleted (now reposted). However, as you know, I rarely (if ever) agree with anyone on everything.
Let me know. Thank you. Best regards,
Thomas J Mattingly
To me...
It sounds like a rough translation of someone who doesn't speak good English.
Maybe we should look at what Ahmadinejad said to clarify Iran's position regarding 9/11.
"September eleven was not a simple operation.
Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services – or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess.
Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren’t those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial? All governments have a duty to provide security and peace of mind for their citizens."
I think the "No Brainers" are a pitiful band of disinformationists who are doing their best to make this movement appear EXACTLY as how South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker intended.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Jon Gold, if you really....
"I think the "No Brainers" are a pitiful band of disinformationists who are doing their best to make this movement appear EXACTLY as how South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker intended. "
If you really think no-planes is disinfo, AND if you really don't wish this movement to be distracted by disinfo, then you should have no problem taking the time to prove us wrong. Until then, I ask you to stop the ad hominems as it is counterproductive.
x
This has...
NOTHING to do with your ridiculous notion that no planes struck the towers on 9/11.
This has EVERYTHING to do with your group trying to spin a translation of an Iranian official's decree that the "9/11 narrative," as casseia called it, is BULLSHIT, FOR your ridiculous notions.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
read this again
read this again
Watch...
This.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Oh no...
9 people...
AAAAAHHHHH!!!
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
You're right though...
I do need a vacation.
Since this thread has to do with cartoons, I'm reminded of that Looney Tunes cartoon where Wil E. Coyote, and the Dog punch a clock, and the fighting ceases.
Take care "No Brainers."
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
LMAO.....
LMAO.....
No class
The cartoon image is a new low. This is not what 9/11 Truth is about. You really should be ashamed of yourself.
IRNA Full Text, Major Story Links, Blog Links
Following is the full text of the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) "News Release" on which all of the other news stories & blogs are based.
Most if not all of the major stories about the Iranian Minister's remarks are linked at http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=iran+moscow+9/11+make-believe&ie=UTF-8&filter=0.
Most if not all of the blogs about the Iranian Minister's remarks are linked at http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=iran+moscow+9/11+make-believe&ie=UTF8.
Here's the full text of the IRNA "News Release":
9/11 Incident, a Make-Believe: Official (Moscow, Oct 27, IRNA)
www.irna.com/en/news/view/line-16/0610274679201251.htm
Iran-Russia-Dialogue
An Iranian official here on Friday mocked the 9/11 story presented to the world public opinion by the US.
"What we watched on the TVs regarding slamming of two planes into the New York Twin Towers, was in fact a make-believe scene," said Iran's Deputy Culture and Islamic Guidance Minister and head of Iran's Culture, Art and Communications Research Center Mohammad-Hadi Homayoun in an address to the Iran-Russia Dialogue among Civilizations Conference in Moscow.
Homayoun stipulated that the sky-scrappers were destroyed through bomb explosions, adding that after massive media propaganda of the US the crusades began.
Criticizing Hountington's theory of Clashes among Civilizations, Homayoun said the theory was formed to justify clashes and tensions among civilizations and cultures.
Meanwhile, touching on a quarter-a-century chronology of the globalization process, Iran's Presidential advisor Mohammad Nahavandian told the audience for his part that global village is in need of human relations more than satellites and the internet.
"Communications are today only responsible for preparing the technical ground for the relations; and as long as there is no cultural cooperation, there will be clashes among civilizations," announced Nahavandian.
Accusing the US and the Zionist regime of adventurism and of opposing the idea of dialogue among civilizations, Nahavandian said that Iran and Russia are advocates of dialogue among civilizations and cultures.
He called for expansion of cooperation between Tehran and Moscow for promotion of democracy on the international level.
So I am a double dissident.
you see, if i hadn't spiked the story with a picture that tells THE SAME (but albanese-opposed) story, and instead would have said something mildly anti-iranian,...
dz would have been brave enough to put it on the front page WHERE IT BELONGS.
Come on! When has a foreign dignitary ever said anything about NO PLANE (NBB) and TV FAKERY .. huh?
I think its bad sportswomanship if you canot admit that this is big news.
So I am a double dissident.
In the same way we 911 truthers get ignored by the media
(huge story!)
I get ignored by you.
Good night America. I can't sleep.
Hahahaha, why didn't I think
Hahahaha, why didn't I think of doing that image?
This is exactly what I have been calling it. Roadrunner Physics.
FAKE QUOTE from RawStory used to emphasize a 9/11 bomb
A fake direct quotation from the Iranian Minister was used in the RawStory-derived 911 Blogger front page story about this same topic.
This fake quote is used by several 911 Blogger commentators and by one blogger to infer that the Iranian Minister may not have meant what he appears to mean in the one and only direct quotation that he made in the original IRNA press release (correctly quoted above).
For my comment about this, see "FAKE QUOTE from Raw Story" -- posted 10/29 at 11:29am.