my recording crapped out only a few minutes in, and i was at the ER, so unfortunately my rip failed.. hopefully another will be on the way.

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Looks like the 911truth.org site is down from too much traffic. It was plasted on one of the character's shirts throughout the show.

bastards didn't put 911blogger.com on his t-shirt....the bastards!!!

Who cares. You mean PEOPLE actually WATCH this SHIT??????????

I think it sent a mixed message. It is definitly a hit piece. But they did put 911truth.org on the shirt of the conspiracy theorist..... I don't think it will really sway people one way or another

I love south park i think it's funny. Of course i didn't like that they called us retards, but you know what it doesn't matter. They put some good stuff on the show and they had a link. www.911truth.org. I do have to say thou a lot of spin went into the show. Some disinfo but i didn't think it was that bad. I think that more people will wake up for sure , plus whatever oprah might talk about tomorrow helps us out.

Twooth Seekers favorite words, and Stone and Parker hit them all.

Very well done.

I laughed my behind off, and I am most certainly a dedicated 9/11 activist who DOES NOT promote crazed bogus theories. It's truly surreal to see an "underground subculture"(the way the mainstream sees it)
finally given the South Park treatment. I almost fell out of my chair laughing when they referenced Silverstein and false flags.

I was actually surprised they didnt directly mention Loose Change, or parody Alex Jones; as for better or worse those are the two main "stars" of the movement. Honestly...if people didnt go spouting off anti Jew,
no plane, swapped plane, missile theories, etc...they wouldnt have much to laugh at. Think a lot of people would laugh at 9/11 Press For Truth? Yes, I am a full on LIHOP supporter as its a first step in the door that
EVEN the debunkers do not dare touch.

Isnt it obvious? As much as Loose Change and other things have HELPED, having bizarre theories about swapped planes, missiles, etc is BAD. It might as WELL BE government disinformation. South Park has an INSANE following...every single person I know under 50 watches it. So good or bad, most Americans now know we exist, and that there is a massive alternative movement to the 9/11 story.
What's GOOD is Bob Woodward's book, the EPA lies finally being exposed, Senator Leahy making LIHOP statements...no "debunker" can debunk that. ALSO, Stone/Parker are Republicans, pro war. Always have been. Frankly, I wish it had been 911blogger.com they plugged, but oh well. Since the world of warcraft spoof has been discussed ad nauseum on every single site on the planet, I am curious to see what the fallout from this will be.

And note to people who think were "nuts": To think the government is behind making up the conspiracy theories could be considered the same.

Not a big fan of south park, either the episodes are a hit or a miss. Last night's show was a hit. I laughed so hard. As we all know, the show makes fun of EVERYONE, not meant to be taken seriously, although they do send out strong messages in most subtle ways. But definitely a good exposure for 911 truth, I thought.

I really thought they were going to blame canada for 9/11.

Why did the detective kill the 911Truth.org guy in the alley? That seemed a little weird, even for SP.

I don't know about you, but I think Matt and Trey were totally sending the message that 911 was an inside job. Ya they had that bit at the end, but that was because they have a large viewer base and broadcast on mainstream tv : first they have to get on tv. For Hobble's sake! They had Bush saying that 911 was an inside job while shooting the 911truth.org guy in the head. Regardless that they later 'went back' on it, they still had that scene, that's very brazen! Loved it! Laughed my ass off ;)

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10-11-06 => upside down, backwards 09-11-01

This was a total victory for 911truth(.org especially)...What else can anybody have asked for? Alot of great information and a plug for 911truth.org. That white house scene was priceless!! All I can say is THANKS MATT & TREY !!
SOUTH PARK RULES!!!
I can only imagine how many millions of people will flock to 911truth.org and seek out the truth.

Good show. At the end the makers lost there nerves though.

They categorized us as "retards" and talked about Jews, etc., which is ridiculous, but this cartoon got people talking. I don't think it influenced people that much but it got 9/11 truth in the media, which is a good thing!

Overall this was positive IMO, bit of a hit piece in some parts, but on the whole it was a wicked episode, 911truth.org got plugged HARDCORE!! Those camp detectives were the funniest thing I've seen in a while also LOL.

Nevertheless, I truly believe that South Park provokes people to do their homework and make their own informed decisions--albeit via toilet humor and non-commital credit given to both sides of stories they tell. Objectivity is just as important for us as truthseekers, as it is for storytellers like Matt and Trey, who are bound by certain requirements and red tape of their employer - our mass media.
The only way to bring sensitive issues to light and trigger people to make their own decisions is by presenting both sides of an issue effectively. And honestly, they did a sloppy job of that on THIS particular episode...I was not impressed.

But sometimes even indisputable facts are hard to swallow. And Matt and Trey’s personal opinions are kind of a moot point, here. I believe they know that many South Park viewers realize the show intentionally leaves their assertions up for interpretation. I think they encourage people to think for themselves, rather than preach their own opinions. Therefore, this piece will (if nothing else) prompt people to do some web surfing on this important topic. For that, I’m glad.

The ultra-super seriousness of who committed 911 had to be balanced with utter potty humor so that people would keep listening.
Diametically opposite sides of the spectrum. Each as far from each other as the east is from the west.

The white house scene spills the beans and is a bunker buster of the official story.
And the authors had to escape some how at the end so they weren't herded into some FEMA camp.

In the next year I bet 500,000,000 people will see this video.

Way to go south park producers. You are heroes.

911truth.org is a fantastic site but I think 911blogger.com is even better.
For every 1 article on 911truth there are 4 on 911 blogger and it seems that 911 blogger is more real time.
I hope there is a 911blogger link on the 911truth.org website.

ALEX JONES' COMMENT: This episode is saying that Bush was not involved 9/11, that he is incompetent, that it is anti-semitic to say 9/11 is an inside job. This is the text book template being used by Popular Mechanics, Fox News, Scripps-Howard and all the others. They hit every single point spewed by the "debunkers." In Team America, anyone questioning the war is a terrorist, when in truth Michael Moore does in Farenheit 9/11 exactly with Parker and Stone do with this episode: set out to make Bush look like a buffoon. http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/111006_south_park_911.html Aaron Dykes/ JonesReport.com | October 11, 2006

The popular cartoon South Park launched a 9/11 hit piece, claiming that the "one-fourth" of Americans who believe the attacks were an inside job are "retards." The episode equates the 9/11 truth movement with anti-semitism, a pointless and insignificant investigation into the misuse of a bathroom, numerology, and the selfish, racist, spoiled and more-or-less evil show character Cartman, who frequently attacks the character Kyle for transgressions he blames on Jews.

By the end, though, the 9/11 conspiracy that the government perpetrated 9/11 is itself a government conspiracy. In the episode, Bush and his administration want people to believe that the government is all-powerful and could achieve absolutely anything.

South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone let the scene go over-the-top on purpose to play up their view of Bush's incompetence making 9/11 theories ironically impossible, a notion which categorically dismisses valid evidence and puts stock in the weak hope that ignoring 9/11 issues will make them go away. In truth, Bush is a puppet run by globalists with intent to wreck nations.

Here's a brief summation of the distorted and simplified view that South Park portrayed about the 9/11 truth movement:

- Cartman (and subsequently the episode) refer to a poll where "one-fourth" of Americans suspect the government did 9/11. However, the Scripps-Howard poll taken in late July 2006 shows that more than one-third of Americans polled suspect the government perpetrated the September 11th attack or took no action.

Additionally, the Zogby Poll conducted in May 2006 showed that 70 million American adults support a new investigation of 9/11. South Park not only under represented the polling numbers, but labeled that population representation as "retarded."

-The show did not challenge any of the claims made by various members of the 9/11 truth movement (though they did present various elements in an mixed, but un clarified blanket theory which poorly represented serious points and research explored). It mentioned that steel couldn't be melted by the jet fuel fires, but connected it with blame for the Jews, allowing for a continuation of Cartman attacking Kyle and the Jewish faith.

The attempt to link 9/11 Truth with anti-semitism is fallacious, as most people who believe 9/11 was an inside job blame the Bush administration. Alex Jones estimates that approximately 10-15% of that group "blames the Jews." The media continually tries to link 9/11 Truth with anti-semitism without basis.

-During the segment featuring a 911truth.org researcher, the show portrays the political dissident as a crazed, paranoid person who would even possess anthrax-- 9/11 Truthers are "nut jobs" nearly equivalent with terrorists.

-But the overriding message here is a continuation of the Bush incompetence theory. South Park makes clear that 9/11 was perpetrated by "pissed off Arabs" and that only a "retard" would think the government is capable of carrying this out.

Excuse me? Nineteen people in a cave could make NORAD stand-down, fly Cessna planes and otherwise catch an elaborate and leading intelligence network off-guard, but the government could not because Bush is a moron?

Clearly, this case does not address the Norman Mineta testimony from the 9/11 Commission hearings that has an aide asking Dick Cheney if the "order still stands" as the planes approach their targets. According to testimony, Cheney tells the aide, "Of course the order still stands. Have you heard any different?"

-The episode refers to documents that civilians can't know about, but declassified documents like Operation Northwoods are available publicly and clearly show that governments at least consider creating provocations and carrying out false-flag operations.

The South Park episode shows that 9/11 Truth has grown so large that it must be acknowledged and dealt with. The episode belittles 9/11 Truth, but does give it high-profile television time. But this exposure comes at the expense of a highly-influenced audience-- some of which may be neutral to 9/11 issues-- now thinking of 9/11 Truth dismissively.

I suspect the South Park crowd has number of people who are otherwise unaware, undecided and even uncaring of 9/11 issues who are highly influenced by the rationale episodically reiterated by each show to its willingly-ignorant audience. South Park are regular distributors of condensed, semi-informed opinions on topics that are more comfortable when remote and unexplored.

The show's creators, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, can't explain points they were willing to bring up in the episode, but not willing to study, including factoids about steel's tendency not to melt or scientifically-based theorems regarding controlled demolition in the Twin Towers. They won't bring up the Project for a New American Century or NORAD standing down automatic air defenses.

They prefer to keep things at the superficial seams-- the "fourth" of Americans who believe this stuff are "retards"; the government is "too incompetent" to have executed this plan; only a "retard" would believe that anyone other than "pissed off" Arabs carried out 9/11; 9/11 conspiracy nuts blame Jews/ blaming Jews is racist and wrong/Shut up, already, etc.

This compares with the treatment of global politics, rogue nations and partisan views on policy Stone and Parker presented in Team America: World Police, a live-action puppetry film that has American Special Forces Troops pitted against North Korea's insane and lonely dictator, Kim Jong Il.

The tongue-in-cheek film is certainly intelligent enough to consider real factors-- the pax America terms in globalism via the United States. But it dismisses the bulk of emperical sins as something like 'necessary roughness' in a vulgar but figuratively pointant summation speech about the three roles playing out in the scenario: (VIDEO | BACKUP)

We're d**ks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid d**ks. And the Film Actors Guild are p****es. And Kim Jong Il is an a**hole. P****es don't like d**ks, because p****es get f**ked by d**ks. But d**ks also f**k a**holes: a**holes that just want to s**t on everything. P****es may think they can deal with a**holes their way. But the only thing that can f**k an a**hole is a d**k, with some balls. The problem with d**ks is: they f**k too much or f**k when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a p***y to show them that. But sometimes, p****es can be so full of s**t that they become a**holes themselves... because p****es are an inch and half away from a**holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us f**k this a**hole, we're going to have our d**ks and p****es all covered in s**t!

Arguing for a sort of practical defaulting to the United States as the relative good might hold some validity (in some hypothetical situation far away from current days...), but again supports attitudes of willful ignorance, laissez faire citizen roles and a simplistic and faulty faith in the United States' being a force for progress of any kind.

However, that relativism holds no accurate validity in light of the Bush administration condoning torture, declaring Bush above the law and superceding the Constitution with bullied legislation. Does that sad version of the United States still hold as the relative moral superior?

Bush's incompetence has very little bearing on supposed failure in Iraq when the plan is to build permanent bases, stay for a decade or longer and use the divided country as a base of operations for other regional conflicts, as documents like PNAC suggest-- for instance, the planned and goaded multi-theater war ("Rebuilding America's Defenses," page iv).

South Park is a cartoon, which, of course, portrays scenarios and players in cartoonish dimensions. It's analysis of current events and culture is simplistic. It categorically reduces all elements. In this episode, we see that 9/11 Truthers are "retards," Bush & Co. try to look tough but are incompetent (Cheney's shot misses again), etc.

In truth, South Park must know that it is really asking its core audience not to consider evidence about 9/11. Instead of researching information and participating in civil discourse as an informed dissident, this viewpoint encourages a continuation of the status quo for its audience-- a broad sector of Americans who know nothing real about our nations interactions with remote nations of interest.

Trey Parker and Matt Stone express an interest in keeping their crowd blindly supporting United States action around the world in the name of relative right. Most of this crowd would have trouble locating North Korea or Iran on a map, but are content to maintain the viewpoint that Bush is just an eccentric idiot confronting evil, cartoonish demon leaders around the world.

I've been a SP fan since the begining, and in some way most episodes have some sort of twisted moral or lesson at the end of a show.( which is usally provided by the plot and not the "you know what I learned today" bit at the end.)And This was a total hit piece and it wont do our movement any good. We were smeared as anti-jewish nut ball conspirists, and retards might I add. Watch it a couple more times a look for the overall theme
When you realise how stupid you people sound thinking this helps our movement or is even for our movement, please stop posting here. I'd like to keep the 911 movement alive. This SP goes into the some bin as the "Bullshit" hit piece, the trash bin.

(from 911truth.org website)
[[Hello, South Park Fans!!

To those of you who already know that we don't know what happened on 9/11, you're definitely not alone--our Zogby poll in May found 46% of Americans want a new investigation because we know we were lied to! (Final report here). And for a long list of people within the government and military who also know, check out patriotsquestion911.com.

If you're absolutely new to the issue, take a walk through these links and decide for yourself what's true. (Oh, and no one has been shot in the head for investigating 9/11 to date, in case you were wondering.)]]
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* Folks, people HAVE been shot in the head for investigating 9/11 to date. Gary Webb and Hunter S. Thompson are two well known cases among several others who have died because of 9/11 truth. Everyone seems to also forget that there were 2 confirmed victims of the 7 WTC collapse/demolition. One was a Port Authority worder and the other a Secret Service agent.
The info's up on prisonplanet.com's '911 Archive' section.

I doubt that Trey and Matt would have gotten away with an obvious pro 9/11 truth show, nor would they have wanted to take a similar slandaring from the major media like charlie sheen did . I see that at least one person saw the show and had enough interest sparked to come and learn more, and thats a good thing : ) . Any discussion of alternate theories about 9/11, even something as rediculous as what South Park showed will help move people toward asking questions, and in turn closer to the truth.

First time to your site I really enjoy it keep up the good blogging!

If your new to the 9/11 Truth movement dont forget to check out :

Propagandamatrix.com

Inforwars.com

The misrepresentations are designed to piss 9/11 CTs off. Don't fall for it.
Anyway, I do agree with one point in the episode. The mainstream theory is pretty complicated. A tad too complicated. It's so much easier to just let some "pissed off Arabs" follow through with their plans. That's the way things look like they are shaping up anyhow. They let it happen. There is no need for controlled demolitions. A terrorist attack (at all) was plenty "justification" for going to war. On 9/11, before the towers fell, on CNN the graphics already read "America At War." That's why I'm a simple LIHOP person. It's so much more plausible.

ATTENTION:

12 October 2006
Interview: Jim Fetzer of Scholars For 9/11 Truth will be the guest of
Bill O'Reilly on "The Factor", FOX TV
8-9 PM/ET (7-8 PM/CT); repeats 11-12 PM/ET (10-11 PM/CT)

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They can't explain the Mineta Testimony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

Davin Coburn of Popular Mechanics takes beating from Charles Goyette:
http://media.putfile.com/Davin-Coburn-of-Popular-Mechanics-on-Charles-Go...

Matt and Trey have no idea what the defiintion of "Conspiracy" is.

con‧spir‧a‧cy
Pronunciation[kuhn-spir-uh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -cies.

1. the act of conspiring.

2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.

4. Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.

5. any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.

"Anyone who thinks that 9/11 was a Conspiracy is a retard."

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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Rather than respond to several individual, clueless posts, I'll just do it once. The episode has an existence and a significance completely separate from what the creators "think about 9/11." This is literary/film theory 101. I don't give a flying fork about what the SP guys think. The point is that the episode consists of several competing narratives woven together, and no one has made a convincing argument that the narrative they associate most closely with Matt and Trey "wins." I'd like to see someone try, actually, because I don't watch SP and I'm sure there are a lot of relevant nuances that completely passed me by.

Back to that "separate existence" thing. Regardless of what "the guys" think, two very important and very-beneficial-to-9/11-Truth things unquestionably took place. One was that a good springboard website got a ton of publicity. IT MATTERS VERY LITTLE whether some characters associated it with the adjective "retarded." "911truth.org" was placed in front of my eyeballs all the freakin' time. Visual impact trumps dialogue any day of the week. Secondly, the phrase "false flag (attack?)" was used When was the last time you EVER heard that on mainstream tv? Again, call it retarded; it doesn't matter. In the initial stages of propagating an idea, just putting out there is progress.

My take on this episode is that it IS hoped/meant to be a wake-up call (and NOT a bash) - for those who aren't already hopelessly brainwashed by the government and the complicit corporate media. It seems like every single time that genuine questions were asked, or genuine evidence was presented, it was almost immediately followed by TOTALLY nonsensical tin-foil hat stuff. Anyone with half a brain could see the possibilities of the former, whilst summarily dismissing the latter. Only those incapable of rational thought might confuse the two, and think it's ALL a bunch of "conspiracy theory" hogwash. Even considering how far South Park constantly stretches the envelope, they still know they can only go so far in certain areas. So they try to slip in bits of truth and reality with a healthy dose of nonsense and comedy. It's up to the viewing audience to discern the difference....

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I loved the kind of 'reverse' conspiracy theory in this episode. That the administration itself is perpetuating the myth because if people though they had the power and resources to organise and cover up such a massive plot they'd be even more scared to question the government. Oddly enough I think this makes more sense! ;)

Given that to many that watch this show don't know much about the 911 conspiracy theories, I wonder if by making fun of it especially the comment "what are you retarded" by the Hardly boys and everyone laughing so nervously (lack of a better word) that in fact it will make people really interested in the subject.

Notice how promenent the website was displayed, and clearly. The writers of the show didn't have to put a real website there, but there was a REAL website there. Also, there was only one site, the address did not change all the time. Very easy to remember and check it out later. I think it is a decent site, it had an article that had good places to start.

I tend to believe that the government did it. BUt, I don't look at these sites too much. I point out problems with the government conspiracy theory and how rediculous it is, and that it was a perfect Reichstag Fire situation.

Andy

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I jsut got done watching this South Park episode and i remember why i quit watching it this show in the first place, it is moronic! This show and others like show the mentality of a lot of people today and it is really disgusting. People always want to look for "conspiracy" or "paranoia" and we always want to blame one person for everything. The fact truth of the matter is that terrorism just didnt start on 9/11 but it has been an ongoing thing everywhere since the late 70's and before that. We have been invaded before on own soil remember Pearl Harbor? I dont see anyone being so upset about the bombings of our American Embassies and carriers through out the years of how the WTC was hit years before by terrorist. Was this all a conspiracy set up by the governments in charge then and the president of that time and keep in mind there was democrats in charge during these times. I think peope need to open their eyes and realize this is what happens when we let people come over here because we have so much freedoms and opportunities. Eventually we will have them compromised and if were not careful we could end up like the rest of the world.

there seems to be a bunch of retards here

No, they'll think you're crazy because you ARE crazy. The biggest threat of this episode, like those showing Scientology for what it is, will be to make people think that because South Park is mocking you, you're all just harmless goofballs who really aren't as bad as they made you seem.

But yes. You are. You are, in fact, retards.

Thanks that deal with this problem,i think this is important.
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dude, you know they are mocking you..

mmm.. ok...

You guys have presented enough evidence to make me a believer. I summarized your findings at my site: www.sawyerhome.net/whatilearned.html

KEEP AT 'EM UNTIL THEY BELIEVE!!!

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