South Park Unveils 9/11 Perps

It appears Wednesday's episode of South Park will deal with 9/11. My guess is, they will ridicule 9/11 Truth.

South Park Episode Guide

Original air Date: 2006-10-11
The world’s biggest conspiracy of all time will finally be uncovered when Eric Cartman exposes the true culprit behind the September 11th attacks. An attempted assassination in South Park means no one is safe from the people who are the real brains behind the 9/11 conspiracy. When Kyle and Stan hit the road in search of the truth, they come face-to-face with the masterminds who pulled off the most elaborate, intricate and flawlessly executed operation in American history.

absolutely they

absolutely they will(ridicule 9/11 truth). i like South Park, i think its a pretty funny show for the most part, but whenever they get on their little conservative soap-box and try to talk politics it ruins the episode.

this will definately be bad,

this will definately be bad, but it is newsworthy..

thanks for the submission simuvac, i'll definately be checking it out.

this will be great!

i really don't think anything negative could come from this. pretty much any publicity is good publicity. Even if they bash it, you'll get people who will still type "911 truth" or something into google and sumble into the 9/11 truth community. south park has been such a great show, and i've got my fingers crossed that they actually throw some facts in. This has the potential to explode the 9/11 truth movement into the mainstream. it could be another hit job on the truth movement, but the other possibility is that they expose it. and if south park exposes it, it'll be huge.

not so fast

Hang on. Although it might look like that SP will ridicule 9/11 Truth I am reserving judgement until I've seen the episode.

I always really liked SP, and to me they have clearly done their job in covering controversial issues. Sometimes the stereotyping is so overdone, just to make a point. I don't know the political stance of the creators of South Park but as you all know 9/11 is a non-partisan issue. In many episodes you could kinda read between the lines what the opinion of the SP makers about a recent issue was. Sometimes the hints are subtle sometimes they're not. Regardless of which way they are going to take, it will mean attention for the doubts surrounding 9/11. Even if they totally ridicule 9/11 Truth, some people might be intrigued with th e mere suggestions and will look some stuff up...

And if they show -subtle or not- how ridiculous the OT is, then that might have some impact comparable with what would happen if Oprah mentioned Building 7 f.i. (jk, you get the idea)

I hear about children calling WTC7 propaganda in the cinema, I see my little brother doing his school thesis about it and bothering and challenging his teacher....Children are the future....

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

i say "hang on" too

While I'm sure South Park with take some jabs at us, there's no way they won't take jabs at the OT either.

South Park's MO (except for Scientology which they despise), is to make fun of both sides being "too extreme", and show that there is a simple and logical middle that everyone should agree too....and that "middle ground" will not be the "9/11 Commission Report", guaranteed.

I hope...

You're right.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

*WTC7=WTC "In times of

*WTC7=WTC

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

I am a huge South Park fan...

I own all available seasons on DVD. I have a Cartman, Kyle, Stan, Kenny, Timmy, and Chef doll sitting on each of the speakers for my surround sound system. I think it is one of the funniest shows ever created.

However, if they bash 9/11 Truth, it's all going in the trash.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Ready the dumpster.

I've been thinking a lot lately that I need to make a "clean break" from TV, as much as I will miss my favorite shows. It feels like we've come full circle to the days and months before 9/11 when it was all fun and games and the Bush Administration was just a big joke. Remember when Jon Stewart referred to "President Vice-President Dick Cheney"?

The Daily Show is now little more than a clip show where the "news" segment consists of some recent foolish statement by Bush/CheneyRumsfeld/FoxNews followed by a well researched montage of older, contradictory Bush/CheneyRumsfeld/FoxNews statements. I don't know about anyone else but I just don't find it that funny anymore.

This week's episode of South Park may be it.

It will...

Be a shame... I really like South Park. I'll never forget "Cripple Fight", or the condom episode.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Incidentally...

I don't watch "TV" at all anymore. I have, however, purchased all of my favorite shows on DVD.

It's amazing how great television is with absolutely no commercials.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Agreed

That's what the magic of ReplayTV gives me. It even has an automatic commercial skip that works suprisingly well.

John Stewart's Daily Show...

Repost:

Daily Show host/comedian John Stewart seemed to be dropping many hints that 9/11 was an inside job not long ago. I thought he was going to be the next celebrity to break open 9/11 truth.

Lately however, I'm disappointed to notice that Stewart seems to keep implying that the "official story" is valid. Although he's usually joking, Stewart's remarks have to do with al-Qeada or bin Laden having attacked us, real "terrorists" still being a threat, etc. (He is also too wish/washy about us pulling out of Iraq quickly. )

I don't know what to make out of Stewart any more.

Could you elaborate on some

Could you elaborate on some of these hints that Jon Stewart has dropped? I have completely missed them.

It seems that he does not just imply that the official story is valid. It is taken as fact and the validity of the "War on Terror" is never questioned even as they point out that it is manipulated for political purposes (e.g. terror alert levels).

Leftgate Comedy

Colbert, Mahr, Stewart, Franken. They ain't as funny any more.
Gary
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"Not being aware of these facts is in itself an evil because ignorance serves evil." Juri Lina - "Architects of Deception"

Does Anybody...

Remember when the kids got martial arts weapons, and "special powers?" Cartman thought he could become invisible, and he walked across the stage buck naked? I couldn't stop laughing.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

How much...

Do you want to bet Cartman finds out it was the J-O-O's...
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

i think you may have the

i think you may have the best guess.

agreed, forget what i just

agreed, forget what i just posted, this actually sounds very likely. it would be very much like them to try and paint us all as anti-semites. fits with their type of comedy.

It certainly...

Makes sense... although, I HOPE swinferno is right.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

And...

I can imagine Cartman confronting Kyle in some way, and then have a scene where Kyle goes off to ponder the idea... and he ends up hating himself, or something...
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Matt Stone is Jewish...

I bet I got it...
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

yeah...

this sounds about right. and even if they make fun of us, it's not going to stop the movement...plus...it'll be funny.

Or...

It could be our worse nightmare.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

...

god i hope not.

We'll see...

Remember this?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

I'd like to see...

Family Guy take it on.

I've been thinking... do you think it's possible they want it to be controversial? To get a huge audience, etc...?

Remember this after Katrina?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

i was kind of pissed that

i was kind of pissed that Family Guy didnt shoot back at South Park for bashing them like they did. still waiting on that. as far as 9/11 goes, Seth McFarlane(creator of the show) was suppossed to be on one of the Flights(i forget which one) on 9/11/01 but he overslept or something,. you would think that would be enough for him to maybe take a closer look at the so called "9/11 conspiraciy theories".

This...

Is what he's talking about.

Click Here
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

nothing is funnier than when

nothing is funnier than when Cartman sings corny 80's songs under his breath. its so nonsensical, the show really is great when they stay away from politics. and sadly, 9/11 will likely be painted politically by them. i remember a qoute by one of them(i think it was Trey Parker), in which he said "we hate conservatives, but we REALLY F*CKING HATE liberals" all in capitals too, like he screamed it. i expect it will paint us all as conspiracy minded, X-Files loving(though i do enjoy that show,its not like we all do right?) liberal types who "hate Bush". they really are just a couple of simplistic conservative/libertairians who should stay away from politics, but it is their soapbox and the show is still funny, so more power to them. but still,this might hurt.

if they continue to paint us

if they continue to paint us all as liberals, and even though we try to point out this isn't about lib/con, then screw it, i am just going to change my party to Republican just so i can say i'm a republican and this isn't about being a liberal or conservative for we all know here that the left-right paradigm is a fraud, a manufactured division to divide and conquer honest working, freedom loving americans from each other to give those in control more power to remain in control.

Well, most of the ones

Well, most of the ones continuing the "Cheney did 9/11" stuff ARE liberals.

Since very few have the courage to name the Israeli and Jewish role, mostly Democrat operatives are taking the Cheney did 9/11 stuff and running with it.

Which is why Air America ate this stuff up.

Just as long as the Loose Change boys from New York don't point out that most of their air staff are jews like Janine Garafolo or Jerry Springer, some of the worst human beings of all time, responsible for destroying western culture, it's all good.

Go Hillary !! Get that Cheney !!

i have to say this might be

i have to say this might be a good opportunity to go and talk about 9/11 on the site.. either before or after it airs, here is one such thread:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=23755

Done...

And done.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

As obvious as it sounds, I

As obvious as it sounds, I had not considered Cartman's anti-semitism as the focal point for this episode. You're probably right, Jon, but I was thinking more along the lines of "the conspiracy is ridiculously large, encompassing millions of people," or they will use the common complaint, "how could Bush be so stupid on everything else but so clever on 9/11."

Notice the wording of the episode description: "the masterminds who pulled off the most elaborate, intricate and flawlessly executed operation in American history." The keyword seems to be "mastermind," and it's obviously being used ironically.

Also, consider "Team America"'s take on the War on Terror. It basically endorsed pre-emptive strike, on the basis that some world leaders are "assholes". Of course, that misses the point critics of the Iraq invasion were making; but it reveals Stone and Parker's conservative tendencies. There's even a new category of political economy: "South Park Conservatives."

Whatever the episode turns out to be, I feel like I'm going to be a disappointed fan by Thursday morning.

Parker and Stone are very

Parker and Stone are very funny and scathing critics of society but I think overall they're pretty naive polititcally.

bingo.

bingo.

Is anyone going to tape this

Is anyone going to tape this so we can have it up on podcasts etc?

im going to do my best to

im going to do my best to grab this and oprah on thursday.

it'll be available on

it'll be available on torrents almost right away. so just check out torrentspy that evening and it'll be up there for sure... no need for anyone to record it

swinferno

So what we have here is a number of big South Park fans (incl. me) who are wondering in what way they will handle 9/11Truth

South Park has always been so incredibly politically incorrect, that should speak to their benefit...

I'm very curious...

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

South Park is often

South Park is often hilarious but when Stone and Parker delve too deep into politics they showcase their naiveté.

One episode has the line "big corporations are good". Another attempts to vindicate Bush for his actions (or in the real world, lack thereof) after Katrina. Protesters are people who "have it too good" and "have nothing better to do". People who want to change the system are "hippies". Team America has anti-war folks labeled as "pussies" (real men drop bombs on women and children) In perhaps the most absurd episode, the Iraq war is compared with America's war for independence. Some of their humor is quite witty, alot of it is juvenile. That's why the show is effective. Unfortunately, most of their political positions fall into the latter category: "Juvenile in the worst sense: confused and frightened by the adult world, and begging to be protected.", as one reviewer wrote of Team America.

As you can see I'm both a fan and a fierce critic of the show.

This is bad combination for an expose on 911: Witty but politically backward, frightened and naive.

The episode will quickly become a classic for "South Park Conservatives", their biggest cultural asset since Toby Keith decided to cash in on the victims of 911. It will take all of the strawmen used by our opponents (massive conspiracy, incompetence etc.) and present them in a bitingly humorous way. I predict it will follow the pattern of the Michael Jackson episode, where the police realize there's a new black man in town and set out to frame him. The fact that literally hundreds of cases of police frame-ups (especially against people of color) have been exposed is meaningless; through the simple -minded lens of the political teenager, cops are the good guys, and such things don't happen in America.

In times of old, satirists

In times of old, satirists like Swift would make a mockery of authority. Trey and Stone do the opposite: they attempt to make a mockery of political dissidents. Team America has dissidents aiding the enemy. This an explicity fascist or authoritarian position, the kind of thing KIm Jong IL's hacks would put on North Korean television. No doubt, the irony is completely lost on the two grown-up kids who make South Park.

If you're expecting an expose on 911: think again.

Its a bit more subtle I think

Is it possible that you are missing some of the critical subtext. Team America was a totally intentional representation of U.S. stereotypes, and a general critique our military culture, and public ignorance. I've seen a lot of South Park in the last few years, and I don't think its fair to say that they do the opposite of mocking authority. The show mocks everyone, and for some reason, each groups spends their few weeks pissed about it.

Watch Ferenheit 9/11 again, and find Matt Stones comments. Certainly not socially naive. Despite the centrist approach of the show and the movie, these guys are not your average conservative Americans. They've done more to advance certain social issues, than many of the protestors they have made fun of. And I think they're critique is not far off the mark. Most left wing activists have no clue other than good values. And most old hippies aren't doing much that's effective to change things.

You might respect what they have accomplished while you critique their approach. The moral of each story, usually stated by Stan, is most often entirely valid.

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http://www.truthmove.org

"Despite the centrist

"Despite the centrist approach of the show and the movie"

I challenge you to prove that the subtext of Team America is "centrist". On the contrary, it is an explicit endorsement of pre-emptive war, however much projectile vomitting; pre-emptive war is the supreme international crime under the Geneva Conventions . An earlier episode of South Park had them comparing the iraq War to the American war for independence; this is beyond absurd, and I don't mean in a good, healthy, dadaist way; more accurately labeled "idiotic", not "centrist". It also shows that they supported the Iraq war, as indeed they did.

"Team America was a totally intentional representation of U.S. stereotypes, and a general critique our military culture"

The critique consisted of portraying the "good guys" bombing the shit out of anything and everything for entirely benign purposes. This gels with the theory, often endorsed by libertarans like Bill Maher, that Amerika is essentially a "good guy" tripping around the globe killing millions of people by accident.

It's an incredibly naive approach to foreign affairs and bears no relation to the actual positions of US authorities. Elites recognize that access to markets, resources and cheap labor are the impetus behind American foreign policy; The South Park boys think otherwise. America is trying, however ham-fistedly, to "do the right thing".

Make no mistake: Team America is an explicity right-wing film. The fact that there are puppets and potty-humor shouldn't distract you from this fact. The above post on "terrified" kids begging to be protected the evil forces of Al-Qaeda sums it up perfectly.

The object of the Satirist is to ridicule and expose the desgins of the elite -- at least, thta's the way it used to be. Parker and Stone take the easy way out: they savagely ridicule dissidents while poking a bit of fun at elites.

"Most left wing activists have no clue other than good values."

Wow, that's a pretty sweeping statement there.

Care to back it up with a study or two?

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In case all of that came off as unecessarily harsh, I'm a fan of South Park. The "two-guys in a hot tub" and the "special olympics" and the "professor chaos' episodes had me rolling in the isles.

But I don't ascribe to these kids a profound political insight; when Stan, at the end of one episode, proclaims that "big corporations are good", you know we're not in Kansas anymore.

they are, in fact, spoiled brats with a vicious and frequently witty sense of humor who unfortuntely are about as politcally astute as your average drunken, teenage Republican.

And that's about all there is to say.

BRAVO!!! hahaha, seriously,

BRAVO!!! hahaha, seriously, good stuff and exactly my thoughts. the less political an episode of South Park is the better. every time. the "professor chaos" episode and the "jennifer lopez" episode are classics. and spoiled brats is the PERFECT way of describing these 2 clowns Parker and Stone. again, funny show, but leave the politics at home you naive toolbags.

Keep trying...

Despite your snarky intellectual bravado, I think maybe you just didn't get the joke. Or more likely you don't recognize the political line they are walking. Matt Stone and Trey Parker are not right wing fanatics! They grew up among them, and know them intimately, a la Cartman, but would not put out a movie that gave explicit support to U.S. hegemony.

Did you see "Natural Born Killers", and just think it was a violent and pointless Oliver Stone movie? Did you see "Starship Troopers" and just think it was a sci-fi flick? I suppose that if you thought these guys were conservative, or assholes, you might assume the worst. But its not nearly so black and white as all that.

"An explicit endorsement of pre-emptive war"??? The movie was a direct reflection of the kind of America we see on Fox News. Puppets. Ultra-machismo. Stereotypes. They were saying, "this is what the country looks like through the eyes of our childish leaders, and those who blindly follow them." It wasn't an endorsement of those values, simply because they made you laugh, or that others in the audience might have acually been cheering.

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http://www.truthmove.org

"Did you see "Natural Born

"Did you see "Natural Born Killers", and just think it was a violent and pointless Oliver Stone movie?"

Ollie had a point in mind, apparently; it was, in many ways, a brillant exercise in montage, but ultimately it got lost in the jungle of its own contradictions.

Re: Starship

I recommend googling "Starship Stormtroopers".

"An explicit endorsement of pre-emptive war"??? The movie was a direct reflection of the kind of America we see on Fox News."

Watch the episode on the Iraq war, or listen to an interview with the creators. They obviuosly endorsed the war ie they're not too astute.

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Look, we can worship people, or we can take the good with the bad. We can acknowledge that the South Park creators have given us some solid entertainment, and at the same time recognize that they're primitive right-wing dolts.

I'm not here to trash South

I'm not here to trash South Park. Like I said, a lot of espisodes are hilarious. But it's beyond goofy to ascribe to these spoiled brats a profound political insight; in fact, I'm sure they would object to such a characterization themselves. They're just right-wing goofs who happen to have a TV show, some flash skills a some wit.

i havent seen the movie so i

i havent seen the movie so i cant comment on that specifically, but i have seen the majority of South Park episodes and its no secret they are indeed conservative in their politics for the most part. i have no problem with true conservatives(i just disagree with them on almost everything), but i have no patience for Stone and Parker when they get on their soap box despite not knowing what the hell they are talking about in regards to politics. its funny, because they get so angry when "hippy liberals" try to preach, yet they preach their conservative bullshit on most of their episodes.

"its funny, because they get

"its funny, because they get so angry when "hippy liberals" try to preach, yet they preach their conservative bullshit on most of their episodes."

Chris, exactly. You're not the first to acknowledge this hyprocrisy. Apparently it's ok for right-wing dolts to engage in political theorizing to the point of apocalypse, but "left-wing" types who preach peace "aid the enemy".

These kids - Stone and Parker - are funny but they have the political awareness of Timmy on a bad day. Whoa be to the supreme imbecile who models their political beliefs after South Park.

We're on the map!

They may demonstrate a very centrist approach, but I have always considered that to be intentional. We always get the left and the right from Klye and Cartman, and then at the end, with a sweep of chimes we always get the middle of the road summary that ususally signifies that it would be good if the people on both sides came to the center and got along.

Unfortunately, as they aim for the middle, they certainly tend to paint an unfair picture of people they consider extreme in whatever manner. My prediction is a bit different than those above. I think that 'truthers' will be painted as paranoid hippies, But I also think that the show will likely support skepticism in some way. Either way, I'm a fan, and can't wait to see how they make fun of me. Its an honor is some ways, as they have made fun of just about every other group.

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http://www.truthmove.org

only in America could the

only in America could the political views of Parker and Stone be considered "centrist" lol.

Sorry, but there's nothing "centrist" about pre-emptive war. There's nothing "centrist" about portraying political dissidents as "aiding the enemy". There's nothing "centrist" about praising corporations. Corporations are the insitutional equivalent of psychopaths; later in his life, Thomas Jefferson regarded them as the biggest threat to the republic. No, these opinions are straight out of Hitler and Mao's playbooks.

I'll be the first to admit that the show is sometimes hilarious; however, the duo's political beliefs are essentially neocon; the pretenses to libertarian thought (with respect gays etc.) are a shallow veneer. At their core, these two are right-wing radicals.

dont forget to add that they

dont forget to add that they believe global warming is a myth and people that drive hybrid cars are "pussies". i agree, far from centrist they are simply naive republicans that dont like labels(and like Hollywood) so they call themselves centrist libertarians.

exactly my thoughts,

exactly my thoughts, especially about being a fan and fierce critic of the show. when they dont talk politics/social issues, i think its a great show, when they do, i cringe the whole time.

I expect the show to be

I expect the show to be about (a) a "massive conspiracy" involving millions of people (b) joos (c) lizard people (d) incompetence (e) blame Canada ;)

Something along those lines. I highly doubt they will even throw us a bone; as other posters have stated, these two are funny but extremely right wing and politically naive.

blame Canada ;)" Heh. If

blame Canada ;)"

Heh. If they make the Canadians behind it I'll have to laugh.

just saw the preview.. it

just saw the preview..

it shows cartman at the front of his class saying that he was going to give a power point presentation on who was really behind 9/11, and how they almost got away with it - it then shows the projector screen with a drawing of kyle looking conspicuous..

i dont remember much more details since it kinda caught me off-guard.