John wrote:
"...i don't respond to junk-science.

i just respond to personal attacks - and expose the perpetrators..."

Interesting. So you are describing the TV footage as "junk science"?
I agree with you on that. It doesn't show us real events.
I am trying to reveal this and so do many with me.

Since we also established that my postings on this blog had nothing to do with personal attacks, what's your point to respond back to me?

We note for the record, that we had here an opportunity to analyse these videos together with a live eye witness but the very same witness refused a cooperation on that matter.

What the analysis of your 2 years old posting depends, you still ignore, that it was on your public website!
I don't see anything "low" of reproducing public releases.
It also wasn't me who posted this "letter" but Peggy Carter.

Furthermore Albanese still confuses two different notions and hypothesis (NPT, 9/11 TV fakery).

We're waiting on many other answers as well, i.e. on his account of the "white elephant plane", but there isn't any cooperation on this as well.

The only "controller" obsession is obviously laid out by Albanese.

It's furthermore *him* who actually "continue(s) arguments with other users from thread to thread" and using "ad-hominem attacks"
http://www.911blogger.com/rules
while i follow the topic.

so you are obviously a liar now blaming Peggy. YOU posted my email just a few days ago.

i would like you to produce a copy of my website showing that post. you can't because it does not exist. it was an email sent to my friends in the movement - back when i made the mistake of counting YOU as one of them.

and you DO attack everyone in this movement with your laundry lists of lies.

you are an enemy to truth - the victims - the witnesses - the traumatized - and everyone 9/11 Truth activist who is risking their life to expose the truth.

Albanese,

your 2 years old "farewell letter" was reproduced many different times.
I mirrored it also on globalfreepress at that time and it was described on Angie's website at Angieon911.com and is often posted by her since you showed up again.

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=871
(This website is down meanwhile as well, but you can easily find parts of the cache here, which shows it is the same text:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Love+It+or+Leave+It+John+J.+Alb...

I didn't reproduce it *today* and that was my point.
Why it does upset you, i cannot understand and i also didn't blame anyone for reproducing it.

You're still distracting from my questions to you on comparing your witness account with the footage and that's the only reason why i am still lurking.

There is no personal attack from my side.
You are obviously blind.

"You are an enemy to truth - the victims - the witnesses - the traumatized - and everyone 9/11 Truth activist who is risking their life to expose the truth."

A truth movement that's too scared to speak the truth may not have a lot of success.

Maybe if your account made sense we wouldn't keep asking questions.

In a court of law, forensic trumps eyewitness. And the forensic....which is the contradictory video tapes, does not show a clear picture of what occurred.

You claim "1000's saw it." But i have trouble finding one.

I don't find your report credible since you were 2.7 miles away and originally claimed you saw both "airplanes" hit, and then you say what hit the south Tower "banked at the last moment" - yet this can't be corroborated with the video evidence - which shows an "airplane" many times over, which does not "bank."

That was why I was interested to hear the details.

And then you revised under pressure to say, I saw the "airplane" approach and then I saw the explosion.

Why wasn't that your first account?

I disagree with Nico about the Building blocking to the West, but I would like to figure out how large a 767 would appear from such a distance.

I'm sorry to have to clue you in on this John, but just because you say, "I saw it."...that doesn't trump everything and erase any other evidence, data or facts. You can't just steamroller people with that.

It'd be nice if we all could just make something true by fiat, "I saw it" but you have to know what you are seeing, you have to be also trustworthy. Your story has to hang together.

That you say, "1000's saw it" when I cannot find any. And "1000's on the street saw it"....when there are really not that many places on the street where it can be seen...does not help your case or credibility. IMO

You also use the emotion of the moment - - in your account you go down to ground zero and supposedly have your life change at that moment , which you seem to assume bolsters your authenticity. You feel insulted that after such an experience someone could dare to question you.

Yet, I question you because I need to know the truth. I had a close and special irreplacable friend die there. That motivates me, but has nothing to do with why I should be believed or not.

How do we know that was really why your life was changed? Or in the way you intend us to think?

You said you had an emotional experience, a catharsis. Many people did. That doesn't mean whoever had such an experience are good witnesses of the event. Or does that experience verifies their account?

I met many people, on the street, who start out trying to use their emotions of the moment to prove their case. When they begin to use their reasoning capacity instead, they recognize that the experience did not necessarily verify the government's story.

A case is not proved by emotions. We may sympathize with you. But that can't be confused with relying upon your opinion as to what you saw. The rest of your story has to add up.

I know you are a detail guy. And pay attention to how the details of things don't add up. That's why I can't understand why you don't "get" how there could be authentic reasons for me to question you.

What you wrote two year ago, that you apparently posted on your website, bears upon your credibility, IMO.

I still can't understand why you would do that.

I'm still trying to find good witnesses.

"When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains - however improbable - must be the truth!" - Doyle

i saw the planes.

cross examining me to try to find inconsistencies in a 5-year-old memory is obnoxious and lame.

the streets were full of people who saw the planes. i personally know many.

if you can't find one - you are not looking hard enough.

your approach is disresectful of the victims who were traumatized by what they saw. you are basically calling them all liars.

and lastly - you use my personal email to members of the movement - publically blasting it out to everyone on 911Blogger to point a finger at me, when it was the result of extreme stress and my wife's illness.

you are despicable - and i will not answer any more questions about planes that thousands of people witnessed who mysteriously YOU cannot find.

..."mysteriously" Albanese cannot find them either :)

Again, i do not point out on "inconsistencies in a 5-year-old memory", but "inconsistencies of 5-year-old videos".

Fact is, that there is no cooperation on that matter with Albanese possible, since he didn't elaborate his account.

Furthermore his "1000s" of eye-witnesses have no record and they're opposed by those who all had different vantage points which should it make possible for them to witness aircrafts, but they didn't.

Same also to this amateur footage which had no plane in it, though another, obviously doctored footage shows an alleged aircraft filmed from same vantage point, which was even much further away.

Compare with:

15)

http://www.stefangeens.com/000158.html
"...about 20 minutes after the first explosion, a huge fireball erupted out of the South tower, about 2 thirds of the way up. People screamed on the roofs around me, where everybody was beginning to gather. Most memorable is the bright bright orange of that explosion, and also the crispness of it; it's a quality difficult to describe--it's the quality of NOT seeing it on television, at a much higher resolution and in the outdoors, under a clear sky. The boom came later.
It was difficult to know what had just happened. I already knew from the radio that the first explosion had been caused by a plane. Was the second caused by a news helicopter accident? The plane that caused this second explosion had in fact come from behind the tower, so from my vantage point I had not seen it.

16)

http://p066.ezboard.com/fnypdrant64609frm1.showMessage?topicID=43159.top...
"...As I was the only security guy on sight I wasn't able to leave right away. Due to the angle of the buildings I never saw the second plane hit, but could clearly see the results..."

http://911closeup.com/nico/witness_contradictions.html

1)
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/03/10/nicos-timeline-cnns-reality-tv-h...
"...I have witnessed a horrible history. I was supposed to go to NJ for a
seminar. I was on the BQE bridge going into Chinatown, Manhattan, when I saw
an explosion at exactly 8:48am on the first Twin Tower. The radio said that
it was a plane accident. I immediately called my sister in NJ, who normally
has to get to the World Trade Center station (she works for the Mayor's
office, 4 blocks away from WTC). I told her that there has been an accident
and told her to avoid that station. She said that my brother will drive her
to Manhattan instead. I then placed another phone call telling
my best friend to stay away from the area. My friend has jury duty and the
Supreme

Court is 3 blocks away. Suddenly, I saw a second explosion but did not see
the plane.
http://www.geocities.com/vnwomensforum/september11debate.html

(NOTE: BQE Bridge is local slang for Brooklyn Queens Express running over
the Williamsborough Bridhe)

2)
http://www.panix.com/userdirs/timothy/wtc.html
"...We all looked up at the WTC to see one tower on fire. There was a ring
of fire encircling the building one floor...near the top. The floors above
the ring were enshrouded in thick black upwardly rising waves. Every second
or two the fire crept lower--floor by floor---dripping like wax down a
candle.

The thought of those people...they're being incinerated..there's no way to
control that fire. Then a huge fireball--monstrous in size--shot out and
up---like some horribly visible dragon's breath.(this was the fireball from
the impact of the second jet--I didn't realize this until after viewing the
footage of the attack)..."

3)
http://www.asne.org/index.cfm?ID=4318
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/images/m04.jpg
"...Then out of nowhere came this noise. This loud, high-pitched roar that
seemed to come from all over, but from nowhere in particular. AND THE SECOND
TOWER JUST EXPLODED. It became amazingly obvious to anyone there that what
we all had hoped was a terrible accident was actually an overt act of
hostility. I DIDN'T SEE THE PLANE HIT,ALTHOUGH I WAS LOOKING AT THE TOWER AT
THE TIME. I have no recollection of pushing the button, hitting the shutter,
making the picture that appeared on Page 2 of the Daily News the next day, a
picture that was taken milliseconds after the second plane hit that tower..."

4)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/have_your_say/september_11.shtml
... Gemma McDonald, Houston, Texas: On the morning of September 11. I was
getting ready to go to school, when the news station broke in with breaking
news. They said a plane had hit the world trade center. They were in the
middle of broadcasting that story live, whenever a big fireball appeared out
of the other tower. In order to see what hit the tower. They had to replay
the tape in slow motion. We didn't know what had happened because we didn't
see the plane, because it was so fast. Whenever I did figure out what
happened I got this weird feeling across my body that I can't describe..."

5)
TV'"witness":
http://www.vegasgangonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7574&page=2
"...stood there watching the coverage in the airport until my flight was called.
I saw the explosion in the second tower and thought it was because of the
first tower burning as I didn't see the plane hit. My flight was called
about 9:20 and I boarded the plane, we all sat there until about 9:35 when
the pilot announced taht all flights were cancelled. After I got of the
plane I went back to the TV and saw what was going on.."

6)
Hispano amateur cameraman, who didn't see any object hitting south tower,
while filming both towers:
http://www.cruzate.com/nyhell/3.jpg
Compare with same geograpical position of towers aT Rosalee's site
(Antenna is in the back of second= north tower)
http://www.webfairy.org/2hit/blueplane.htm

http://www.cruzate.com/nyhell
"...When I was back in the roof I saw
just before my eyes the explosion on Tower 2.
I didn't see the plane, nor did any of the other
guys on the roof. We speculated for a few
minutes. The only thing we could imagine was
on of the wings of the first plane hitting the
other tower and provoking the explosion, but
that was very unlikely...."

7)
From an amateur camera clip, camera positioned on both towers:
"...we just saw another explosion (TV comment)...."
Person 1 in room: "...Another explosion Kate..."
Kate: "...i know, i know..." (noone of both refered to any plane)
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/day1-tower2-fireball-only.wmv

8)
Don Dahler vs. ABC
Dahler:
...i didn't see any plane going in...that...that's just exploded...i...
Gibson:
We just saw another plane coming in from the side.
Dahler:
You did?? I...that was ..was...out of my view...
Gibson:
That was a second explosion.
You can see the plane come in just from the right hand side of the screen...
(=> Dahler's witness report 'overruled' by a TV monitor)
http://thewebfairy.com/911/haarp/reporter.didnt.see.plane.wmv

9)
Witness Reporter Winston on NBC, which had same synched W-ABC clip:
the "building is exploding right now"
The studio host doesn't even see his monitor where the same W-ABC footage
shows same black flying object vanishing behind first tower, then followed by explosion and fireball (no sound).
The studio host agrees with street reporter (who didn't report any incoming 'plane', that this explosion must have been forced from 'parts of the first plane..."
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/msnbc_2ndCGIplane_wrongtower_touch.mpg
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/CGIplane_touches_northtower.jpg
(RENDERING UPLOAD MISTAKE)

10)
http://thewebfairy.com/911/bombs/
Witness: NO second plane, it was a bomb....
FOX clip
Reporter Rick Leventhal is whisking witness away: "we heard about tv reports..."

11)
Pilot Witness:
http://www.montclair.edu/pages/alumnilife/alumnilifewinter02/features4.h...
"... I saw a flash and fireball from the top of the World Trade Center.
....Due to the angle and altitude of our flight, I have sometimes experienced the optical illusion of something appearing to hit a building.
We then flew south to the Battery to see if whatever had hit it had gone out the other side. We saw heavy damage on the south side of Tower 1, but saw nothing of substance on the ground or on Tower 2, so we decided to go back north again, all the while just on the water's edge on the Manhattan side at about 900 feet. Ninety seconds after leaving the Battery, in the spot where we had just been looking, the second plane hit the second tower. We never saw the plane, but I could see the flash of the impact from behind us.

12) More amateur tapes showing no planes at 2nd attack (06/02)
Dialogue between guy and his girlfriend:

Man: "...wtf**k. What was that?

Woman: "I don't know"
Man: "..they're f**in bombing it...
Must have been a rocket or something.."

13) Two dudes do not catch any plane

http://tinyurl.com/nhuu6

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2137200753344880184&q=9%2F11&pl=...

tower 1 on fire only filmed by amateur and his buddy, then unfortunately shortly edited and started filming again...

"...oh my god..." (amateur camera continues filming after 2nd attack on ST, but no comment on any plane....!!)

dialogue of two dudes continues:

guy 1:
"...that must have been a fukin terrorist attack. Probably that just explode.. that doesn't make any sense, that has...

interrupted by guy 2:
"...How did THAT ONE just catch on fire man?... see this stuff is falling out...

14)Bird "sees" no plane (check out blog below)

Amateur Footage with no plane in it while filming fireball:
all direct video links here:
http://911tvfakery.net/

1)
Saturday, August 05, 2006
Another amateur footage shows no plane hit South Tower (08/05)

2)
Saturday, August 05, 2006
Compare with yet another amateur video, same perspective, explosion, no plane

3)
The "no-plane" bird (07/13)
(now also vlogged at 911CGIwatch.blogspot)

4)
May Archives
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
More amateur tapes showing no planes at 2nd attack (06/02)
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_911tvfakery_archive.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P8oZIYkoBfE&search=september%2011%20plane

5)
May 1, 2006
Two dudes do not catch any plane
http://tinyurl.com/nhuu6
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2137200753344880184&q=9%2F11&pl=...

6)
March 5, 2006
Dahler doesn't see or hear any plane at the South Tower
http://thewebfairy.com/911/haarp/reporter.didnt.see.plane.wmv

7)
February 2, 2006
Amateur Video of 2nd hit without any clear plane
http://tinyurl.com/lrt45
http://www.bolt.com/audio/audio_player_flv_branded.swf?contentId=170167&...

8)
9/11 CGI: FOX vs CNN (06/28)
Amateur Vid of couple not seeing any plane

and here is one satire fake how can easily do the opposite:
WTC 7 "hit" by a "plane":
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/WTC7_plane002.swf

it was FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO. it all happened fast and under emotional distress. Jesus!

Thank you.

"When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains - however improbable - must be the truth!" - Doyle

Still "under emotional distress" 5 years later, John?

Fact is: The videos need further analysis.
I guess, if we cannot rely on John's help, we have to look out for other witnesses :)