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Sergeant Lauro "LJ" Chavez, 9/11 Whistle Blower Speaks Out in Cincinnati Post - Veterans for 9/11 Truth
I felt it necessary to follow up to a recent story that was published in Cincinnati Post. It was the 1 in 3 believe 9-11 conspiracy theory. I must admit that at first I was overwhelmed with joy that our local paper was actually starting to have real journalism and talk about real issues. Then I read the story and it was a total debunk to make the actual people around the world who feel there was something not right about 9-11, to look like over reacting conspiracy theorists.
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Honestly I could care less what is done with this letter, but I feel that I should speak my mind and Ill tell you some things that I have not told many people at all. From 1995 till 2002 I was a Sergeant in the United States Army. Not only this, but I was stationed at United States Central Command, which is located at MacDill AFB in Tampa Florida. I was on active duty when 9-11 happened. In the days prior to the tragedies, we were involved in many exercises. Some of these exercises included the scenarios of hijacked planes crashing into, our building[,] the world trade center, the White House, Sears Tower, and the Pentagon. These drills or exercises as we called them, where classified Top Secret. Having a Top Secret rated clearance I was dumbfounded that they would ever push a training exercise above the level of Secret. Over my 8 years in the Army, I had participated in many exercises around the world, none of which were ever classified over the Secret level.Ill start by saying a few months prior it was announced by President Bush that Dick Cheney would be heading up operations over NORAD our North American Aerospace Defense Command. Along with many of my peers, we were shocked. Over the years, if you research NORAD, it has always been under the command of a Military officer. It was done this way because the defense of this country has always been in the hands of such. Prior to the months before 9-11 this was all of the sudden changed. Like I said, if you research NORAD and the command structure you will find that it was imposed long ago that the military should be in control of the order to scramble planes in the defense of American air space. For some strange reason, Bush changed this and gave that power to a civilian person on his Staff team yes I know, very interesting.
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So, I was standing in the SCIF (Secure Compartmented Information Facility), which is basically this underground bunker command post for USCENTCOM, when the first plane hit. We were watching the fly patterns of all the planes on the aerospace grid. This contained not only all commercial flights at the time, but all military flights, and fake enemy planes that were supposedly put on there for the exercise. Many of the planes sent to intercept the fake blips were scrambled from Andrews which is an air defense AFB for the East Coast. They were sent across the US and left very few planes to defend the capital. After the first plane hit the tower we were all in disbelief. After the initial shock was over, our questions were what are the odds this could happen for real, during a training exercise thats covering the same scenario? We were all at wits end. Then to top all of this off, Cheney gave NORAD the order to stand down scrambling jets to intercept. A few moments later tower 2 was hit. Only after the Pentagon was hit, did he give the orders to scramble the jets to intercept the plane bound for the White House.
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To delve even further, as Im standing there watching the towers collapse, next to me is one of my good friends and a former commander of the Army Corps of Engineers. He is a demolitions expert. He was even more surprised than me. When the towers collapsed he kept saying this isnt right, this isnt right. When I asked him what he was talking about he told me that steel buildings dont fall down that way. Even if they are struck by objects; he went on to say that in theory if the top 10 floors were hit, then possibly just that part of the building would fall over and off, but the rest would remain standing. When I asked him, not understanding the implications of demolitions, he told me that it looked as if they were brought down by controlled demolitions. I was utterly amazed, but after he said that it did sort of appear that way.
Be sure to follow the link for the full posting by Sergeant Lauro "LJ" Chavez.
Thanks Steve for the submission!
NOTE: We have no personal confirmation as to the validity of this story any further than that it was posted on Veterans for 9/11 Truth's website. As with everything that is posted on this site it is up to the viewer to do their own research and reach their own opinions.
if we could get a videotaped
if we could get a videotaped deposition it would help
I got the same feeling.
I got the same feeling.
Where's the original
Where's the original Cincinnati Post article?
We need this guy on camera
We need this guy on camera NOW. Somebody buys my ticket and I could be there Sunday... but chances are there's people in Cincinnati who could do it. Preferably local news to start with, although we need someone with better knowledge of the issues to lay down the real interview. Hopefully Alex Jones is on top of this...
Pretty incredible, never the less. We can now confidently state that the 9/11 wargames were NOT typical in any way, because they were 'Top Secret' whereas every other exercise had been labeled no higher than 'Secret'. This is a very strong new talking point to reinforce the wargame evidence. On top of that we have the long- awaited confermation of the Cheney stand- down order! This is even more incredible. Totally blows the NORAD tapes out of the water. Hopefully it will prompt more Air Defense whistleblowers...
If this is legit, it's over.
If this is legit, it's over. The 911 truth movement will have won.
Slow down guys.
The original is a Scripps Howard hit piece
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060803/NEWS01/608...
I think this item needs to be carefully verified before any of it is accepted.
Holy ****
n/t
Edit: "If you did not know, Thermite is a chemical compound found in many explosives including C4 which I have used many times in the Army. It leaves a distinct smell and identifiable residue upon explosion"
This is BS, damnit! That really taints the whole thing and makes me wonder if it might be a setup.
im gonna go ahead and
im gonna go ahead and contain my excitement until this can be verified. god let this be true. we need insiders to find some courage. hopefully this is just the start of it.
First dibs on Murdoch
I would love to be wildly optimistic, but it is unlikely to be easy to achieve any worthwhile changes, even if there are a hundred whistleblowers. Anyone familiar with how the Kennedy investigations were distorted and inhibited (recommend Gaeton Fonzi - The Last Investigation) will know that we are going to need a lot of skillful work to succeed in restoring our republic. Of course, once there are reasonable grounds to indict we can throw the perps in Gitmo with no lawyers, no charges, no visitors, not even habeas corpus. And we can give ‘em daily waterboard treatments and we can even drop their Aleister Crowley books in the toilet. They are terrorists, yes? (I’d like to volunteer to be on the waterboard crew for Rupert Murdoch).
Please don't dis Aleister Crowley
He's very misunderstood.
The dude was a freak show
The dude was a freak show casseia, I've got to disagree. All that f*cked up secret society shit is just plain bizarre to me, truly weird. Tell me why you think he’s misunderstood, because I’ve heard he was a pretty disturbed charter into some pretty f*cked up shit.
Yes, he was a freak show
and he was also a charlatan. The whole "evilest man in the world" thing was self-promotion. Basically, he was a sexual libertine, which freaked people out, and a drug addict. I personally don't think his involvement with any "secret" society intersected with the kind of secret society crap that is practiced at Bohemian Grove, etc, except insofar as they may imitate the kind of rituals he described. It certainly never hooked him up with wealth and power -- he died broke and alone.
Stuff about him participating in human sacrifice, being Hitler's guru, and probably whatever else you've heard about him in the f-ed up shit department is not accurate, but he thrived on rumors like that and encouraged them rather than dispelled them.
Anyway, this is not connected to 9/11 and I don't want to abuse dz's hospitality, but I DO think he was misunderstood, and I think the central tenets of his "faith" -- Thelema -- are profoundly misunderstood as well. I take them as a sort of complement to the work of Gurdjieff, who posited that man in his natural state has no true will and that the human project is to develop one . Then
"Do what Thou will shall be the whole of the Law.
Love is the Law; Love under Will."
can be understood not as PERMISSION but as ADMONITION.
Awesome video, btw.
Well I don't know, I've
Well I don't know, I've never read his books only read things about him, and the dude creeps me out casseia I'm sry lol! Its like this other weird individual Albert Pike, just very bizarre and creepy.
Don't worry about it.
He creeps a lot of people out and while he was alive I think he enjoyed creeping people out.
What do you think this is?
Go here and pay attention to the clip starting at 5:26
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1275479632590921971&q=illuminati...
re: What do you think this is?
It was a scfi channel promo. Why do you feel the need to post that link onto a thread that has nothing to do with spaceships???
re: Sci Fi?
Yes. Google "911 + scifi + hoax" for more info.
Upon reflection
You know where this crosses the line into "too good to be true"? The point where he offers us not only the goods on the wargames and CD, but conveniently has a friend who can vouch for no plane at the Pentagon.
If he's legit, I'll be the first to apologize.
Very dubious, I agree
Still, nice try though.
Yes, this is bullshit. It
Yes, this is bullshit. It shouldn't be out front here, it makes 9/11 truthers look like saps. This is gay, get it off!!! Again, I'll be the first to admit I'm the sap if it's real.
I agree -- the Building 7
I agree -- the Building 7 references don't ring true either.
I was told by a friend who
I was told by a friend who is a state trooper that has a friend who worked at the Pentagon. He told me that there was a plane. I know that's heresay but it's what he stressed to me. It couldve been a different plane than what was reported however. Focusing on the Pentagon is a waste of time. Why in the world would they fire a missile in broad daylight. They aren't that dumb.
But on this article, WE NEED VERIFICATION!
If this is true then this
If this is true then this guy wouldn't blow the whistle by responding to an editorial for a newspaper. This guy would be breaking this news on all the 9/11 Truth websites and be doing interviews galore.
I mean, if you were this guy, is THIS how you would go public?
I don't follow your logic
..but of course his statement should be recorder and then reported in some newspaper.
He belongs to Veterans for 9/11 Truth - he could be checked through them.
you will when loose change
you will when loose change final cut comes out ;)
Why not just call him?
[dz: removed contact information upon request]
I know Lauro. He's a bit of
I know Lauro. He's a bit of a prankster. His name doesn't even appear in the management of Domin-8. None of the Domin-8 guys have military backgrounds, by the way.
Re: I know Lauro
Mr. George W. Bush, you do not know Lauro. You are anonymously posting slander in an inane attempt to discredit the author. I would be glad to listen to what you really know about Lauro if you were to reply, but I have a feeling that you cannot back up your claims.








IS This Legit?
I have no doubt this is a real army guy, BUT I'm wondering if his views/knowlege expressed was shaped from 9/11 truth documentaries, seems to good to be true and follows a lot of main 9/11 truth talking points. Sorry, can't help but be skeptical...as much as the Vanity Fair NORAD article confirms some of this. Any takes on this?