am New York covers 911 Skeptics

amNY website main page
Main Story: 9/11 skeptics challenge WTC findings
Inside the debate (They could have turned down the "suck" a little on this second bit.)

Same story as in New York Newsday--it's okay, IMO

9/11 truth articles

It it just me, or are 9/11 truth articles increasing in number. I find it hard to keep up these days. I remember someone posted a statistic from Google News, anyone have a link?

Btw, some articles:

Reuters:Academic under fire for 9/11 conspiracy theory

5 years later, 9/11 skeptics feel they’re close to truth

9/11 and Iraq war spur illogical rhetoric near, far

Another 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist, Another Double Standard

Too Funny...

"Missiles, not planes, hit the Twin Towers" - Nico Haupt

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

I'm wondering are we getting

I'm wondering are we getting all these articles is because we are getting closer to the anniversary?

Was Homeland Security Behind

Was Homeland Security Behind Attack On 911 Investigative Journalist Bollyn?

Christopher Bollyn | September 1 2006

The "undercover tactical unit" involved in the assault and TASERing of a 9/11 investigative journalist at his Chicago-area home was most likely an operation ordered by the Department of Homeland Security, according to a former high-ranking police official.

Since the bizarre and brutal attack against me by three heavily-armed agents at my family home in Hoffman Estates , Illinois , a number of people have commented on the seemingly odd use of an "undercover tactical unit" to respond to a non-emergency 911 call.

Some of the most insightful comments have come from a former senior police official from Illinois , who spoke to a source close to AFP. The former police chief was familiar with the details of the incident when he made his comments.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/010906Bollyn.htm

Goons need to be indicted!

Those "Homeland Security" goons who attacked Christopher Bollyn need to be indicted!

I hate how they use

I hate how they use "conspiracy theories".

The only conspiracy theory I can imagine is the official fairytale. You know the one with box-cutters and hijackers and the like.

A man in a cave....hahahahaha

it's a prerequisite...

It's a prerequisite to getting their stuff published.

A lot of these journalists are sympathetic to our cause, and some are totally with us, but they need to have the "conspiracy" bent to get their stuff published.

When an article starts mentioning Nico or No plane theories and focuses on that, you know it's a deliberate hit piece.

Correction:

Correction:
I wasn't mentioned in 'am', but 'TheVillager'.

http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/
Friday, September 01, 2006
NY Villager mentions Haupt and TV Fakery
September 1, 2006

also debated at
http://www.911blogger.com/node/2418#new

(ed: Note that the Villager confused "9/11 Science and Justice Alliance" with st911.org. I did not found st911.org, neither i am one of their members.
It is correct that i co-established in 2002 a science group, together with Jeff "plaguepuppy" King.
Correction/Update: Apparently TheVillager confused 911SCAJA with team8plus.org, which has over 600 members.
Some other details had been misquoted. I didn't use the words "conspiracy theory" or "missiles".

TheVillager didn't show up again the following week, when i presented an own event on "9/11 TV Fakery".
Guest Speaker was actually Rick Rajter, one of many st911.org members who signed our petition and just distributed this week Pt.1 of a paper to st911)

http://www.thevillager.com/villager_174/5yearslater.html
Volume 76, Number 15 | August 30 -September 5, 2006

5 years later, 9/11 skeptics feel they’re close to truth
By David Spett

"...One 9/11 Truth member, Nico Haupt, believes the conspiracy behind 9/11 extends beyond the government. At the Aug. 6 St. Mark’s meeting, Haupt criticized the mainstream 9/11 Truth movement, saying it has “oppressed” his questions and research.

“I created a science group in 2002, which were working for four years, hard, 24/7, opposed by leaders close to the 9/11 Truth movement,” Haupt told the audience, adding that his science group consists of nine researchers and 600 members.

The group’s findings were surprising.

“I believe that Cleveland is the final smoking gun for the passengers [of United 93]. I believe the conspiracy theory that the F.B.I. and the NASA together killed these passengers, either there or they got already killed on board,” Haupt said, waving several crumpled sheets of paper as evidence. “I don’t need to prove anymore what happens to passengers. I don’t need to prove anymore what happens to planes. All I can bring is fact.”

Missiles, not planes, hit the Twin Towers, Haupt added, and all the footage on television and in newspapers has been edited.

After Haupt’s speech, one man, who declined to give his name, said Haupt represented “the fringe of our movement.” It’s “irresponsible” to say missiles hit the W.T.C., the man said, but “parts of that argument have merit.”

“Still, we should lead with our strongest arguments,” the man added.

Morales, echoing that statement, said he didn’t believe Haupt yet but would listen to a full presentation of Haupt’s research and keep an open mind.
In a telephone interview, Morales defended Haupt’s opinion: “What he thinks is his opinion, but he also makes it clear that he separates opinion from conclusion. He’s not prepared to make a scientific conclusion or at least a quasiscientific conclusion. His strong point, which I tend more to agree with, is that the footage, the various mainstream media footage, seems to have been doctored...”

...but it's nice to see the

...but it's nice to see the word "9/11 Skeptics" on the same day on the cover of "am", when "TheVillager" released this other story, starting on Page 1 as well.

I coined that term in late September 2001 for the "9/11 Skeptics Ring", an online list.
The London 9/11 truth activists are still using it for their activist group :)

Get lost Nico Haupt a/k/a ewing2001/ wth your name is...

Nico you are a Nazi propagandist much like your relative, Joseph Goebbels! Go back to Germany you illegal alien & take your cartoon planes with you!

Again, Jon Albanese why

Again, Jon Albanese
why don't you use your real name? -:)

I'm not Albanese you stupid Nazi!

I'm not Albanese you stupid Nazi! Cease & desist with your cartoon plane bullshit!

And how the FUCK is this evil bitch still with us?

Go ahead--click on the name. The last shill to get banned hit three of his old posts before getting booted.

Right--and I think I know who "killtwoofers" is...

Well, go ahead, Mr. Haupt, blog your worst--just be sure to keep your scrawny arse in New York where it's safe. Unlike some I'm really not impressed with internet intimidation--I'm more of a beat you to death with your own arm type of girl...

Clever bit trying to pin it on me--got to give you that.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

I hate how they use

well, it is a conspiracy. and when charges get dropped on the bush administration, I'm sure conspiracy in the deaths of 3000 people will be among one of the many charges.

yes, the truth articles are increasing drastically in size. the worm is turning....:)

patriot
st911

We should all thank AM/NY.

We should all thank AM/NY. At the least they will allow the story to be spoken about. Once a couple of big newspapers talk about it, more will be willing. I live in NY, and just picked up a print copy on my way to work.

wow.

Allegation: That Air Force fighter jets did not intercept the hijacked planes, even after one crashed into the WTC, is proof the military let the attacks happen.

Rebuttal: The 9/11 hijackers turned off their planes' transponders, making them very difficult to track. Also, the military had almost no experience or readiness to intercept planes flying over the United States.

umm....."no experience or readiness to intercept planes flying over the United States."?!

"Rebuttal: The 9/11

"Rebuttal: The 9/11 hijackers turned off their planes' transponders, making them very difficult to track."

There is a thing called Secondary Radar - which is activated in the case of transponder signal loss, I do believe.

And of course F-14 have their own Radar.

The "Not So Great" Transponder Myth

One of the common lines taken in the official 9/11 mythology and conspiracy theory is the 'Transponder
fantasy'. Here the 'terrorists' are alleged to have turned off the transponders, making the aircraft invisible to all concerned. In all the years and trillions of dollars spent on making the airspace over the continental United States - no one ever thought that this might happen - or we are supposed to believe !!!

It's an absolute fantasy that a aircraft which doesn't transmit a transponder signal can not be located or tracked. This theory has been rejected time and time again, including by Dr Lt. Col. Bob Bowman PhD, a former interceptor pilot and coordinator of the SDI (Strategic Defence Initiative), currently a 9/11 truth candidate for congress in Florida!!

All flights have 1. transponder tracking, 2. ground air-traffic control radio contact, 3.A designated flight path 4. Independent radar tracking (NORAD and FAA).
If any of the following happen - a flight loses transponder tracking, deviates from it's flight path, or looses radio contact, or looses radar signal then NORAD are notified and this constitutes an 'emergency'.

NORAD also tracks flights across the continental united states AND over the sea independently, again if any flight deviates from a flight path, doesn't transmit a friendly transponder signal or is a 'bogey' this constitutes an 'emergency'.

The fact is that a flight that switches off it's radar means - everyone should be looking for it, not only the air traffic controller in charge of that flight!!!!

Also when these apparent flight deviated from their designated courses, lost radio contact should have meant that the multi-trillion dollar
defence system in place should have located them within minutes!!!

It's also true that F-16's have onboard independent radar, as already stated.

This didn't happen on September 11th, because I quote "IS THIS REAL WORLD OR EXERCISE?!?"

The "Not So Great" Transponder Myth--great stuff!

Damn good explanation! Thanks.

Loose Change to be aired on Austrailian History Channel

italics

yes

Rebuttal to the Rebuttal

Rebuttal: The kind of explosives needed to collapse the Twin Towers would have weighed thousands of pounds each and required forklifts to move around. They could not have been secretly hidden in the buildings.

Basically their argument goes like this:
To knock down the towers would have taken TOO MUCH explosives, therefore you should believe that the towers fell without ANY explosives.

This argument defies logic. To the debunkers it's either "thousands of pounds requiring forklifts" or "absolutely nothing". No middle ground. And no, you don't need to see the evidence, even though nobody, as even NIST will admit, knows for sure how this really happened.

required forklifts

Another way to look at this; NIST concludes that failing floor trusses pulled the columns down. Let's say for the sake of debate, the planes & fires took out some of the floor trusses but to get the collapse started, a little more help was needed. How much explosive would it take to cause floor trusses to fail? I'm no demolitions guy but I don't see how dinky floor trusses would have "required forklifts" worth of explosives. Then again, I'm fairly certain that skyscraper floor trusses are not fracture critical members, so the point is moot, but shows the flaw with the debunking argument's "all or nothing" logic.

Also, one can see that the

Also, one can see that the fires in the towers that supposedly melted (or compromised) the steel had little exhaust (smoke) and little intake (the woman standing by the hole is unruffled by wind, her hair is not blowing).

Anyone who owns a wood stove should understand that that means the fire clearly was not very hot.

Second point: NIST is now saying that WTC7 was felled because it had sustained structural damage on its south face. OK, if that is true, the damage would have made the building keel over toward the south, not collapse at free-fall speed straight down while turning into dust.

The burden of proof lies with NIST and the government.
If their argument cannot meet this burden, which it clearly cannot, a new investigation must be opened immediately.

Contradiction

The stories are getting better.

But check this:

In one place this article says: "Indeed, a recent Zogby poll of 1,200 adults nationwide found more than 42 percent believe the "government and 9/11 Commission concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11 attacks."

Couple paragraphs down it says: "To be sure, the vast majority of Americans dismiss these allegations outright."

Hello?
At most, there are 58% who do not say yes to the Zogby question.
How does that become "...the vast majority of Americans dismiss these allegations outright."

The people are catching on. When will the news media join them?

Journalists for 911Truth?

No sign of journalists growing a pair yet, is there? Not mainstream anyway. :-(

olberman may be getting

olberman may be getting close???

lets end the stream of

lets end the stream of italics....

Hello?...Anybody home? OBVIOUS HIT PIECE!!!

This is about as crappy an article as I've seen about the movement. The article is basically an opportunity for the author to plug the new NIST report, and use it as a means to futher stigmatize our efforts.

"To be sure, the vast majority of Americans dismiss these allegations outright." This quote follows a sitation of the Zogby poll that demonstrated that 42% of the public question the official story. Can anyone say internal logic?

In the side column we find this gem. "Allegation: That Air Force fighter jets did not intercept the hijacked planes, even after one crached into the WTC, is proof the military let the attacks happen. Rebuttal: The 9/11 hijackers turned off their planes' transponders, making them very difficult to track. ALSO, THE MILITARY HAD ALMOST NO EXPERIENCE OR READINESS TO INTERCEPT PLANES FLYING OVER THE UNITED STATES."

The allegation is misleading, and the rebuttal is uneducated, asinine, and even deceptive. Either way, this guy obviously doens't know the first thing about 9/11. As we know, the military has its own radar system that is able to track all planes in U.S. airspace. And someone needs to send this guy a link about the hundred or so interceptions that happen every year.

Let's all not be so eager for press that we ignore the harmful nature of pseudo-journalism that makes us look nuts. Ya, he plugged Loose Change, and NY911Truth. In this way, all press IS good press, as people may be inspired to inquire about the issue. I do see the good. But I would ask you to really think about why he wrote the piece. Do you feel like he cares about the truth?

The wagons are circling. The 9/11 truth movement is making progress, and the mainstream has hunkered down for a fight. There will be many more stories written. There will be the occasional gem. We are gaining new supporters all the time. But at present, there is much more politically motivated, critically uninformed, and socially irresponsible crap being written about the subject.

A.M. New York is the right of center free daily in NYC. Its only a bit better than the Post. So I'm not surprised. But I do hope that we send this guy more mail about the facts, than thanks for his support.

The Truth About 9/11

Will Mr. Silverstein be explaining his WTC-7 blunder?

Or will they just, you know, "pull-it"?

What blunder?

You don't still beleive the myth about that, do you?

Censorship of Spam Bot Actors

(*ed : whoeever that spam bot actor was,
it wasn't ewing2001!)

April 21, 2007
Spam Bot - "Actor" bumps back old pro Haupt/ewing2001 blog at 911blogger
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=3292

By ewing2001

Spam Bot - "Actor" bumps back old
pro Haupt/ewing2001 blog at 911blogger
picked up at:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/2421
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Correction:
I wasn't mentioned in 'am', but 'TheVillager'.

http://www.thevillager.com/villager_174/5yearslater.html
Volume 76, Number 15 | August 30 -September 5, 2006

5 years later, 9/11 skeptics feel they’re close to truth
By David Spett

"...One 9/11 Truth member, Nico Haupt, believes the conspiracy behind 9/11 extends beyond the government. At the Aug. 6 St. Mark’s meeting, Haupt criticized the mainstream 9/11 Truth movement, saying it has “oppressed” his questions and research.

“I created a science group in 2002, which were working for four years, hard, 24/7, opposed by leaders close to the 9/11 Truth movement,” Haupt told the audience, adding that his science group consists of nine researchers and 600 members...


+++++

Wheels of Steeeel 2007
("Grand"master Morgan & Furious Jimbo Mix)
http://www.livevideo.com/ewing2001

++++

Nico Haupt Speech vs. Professor Jones at nyc911 event with Jim Fetzer:

http://www.911researchers.com/node/422#comment-3050
Submitted by ewing2001 on Sat, 2007-04-21 16:01.

I also was invited at the Blue Loft event as a last minute speaker. Before i started we played some 9/11 Video Mash-Ups in the background on a projector, though the sound was a bit tuned down. I counted maybe 20-30 people in the audience.

This was my speech:

"...thx peggy, glad that i am here ;

I also would like to thank Ronald Wiecks producer Gary Popkin of Hardfire TV for inviting Jim Fetzer into NYC ;

This gives us an opportunity to confront him on some Issues
and/or debate with him many details on both tv fakery research and the political significance of the existance and effectivity of exoW .

I use the abbreviation of exoW to include directed energy weaponry and many other unknown unconventional weaponry we might not even know all of their names yet.

Most of them had been developed, produced and "tested"
before and after 9/11 and most obviously on the day of 9/11 itself.

Since i was invited on the last minute i will just introduce myself and then raise two points.

I am speaking here both as a researcher and as a political media activist.
I am most active online now rather than in the streets.

I have been a 9/11 investigator since the morning of 9/11. And yes, even then was already convinced at least some footage was faked or at the least dramatized.

The concept "no-planes" was first used as an insulting label against researchers such as myself, but some of us have ourselves adopted it polemically.

I would personally formulate it as, "nothing plus x" hit the south tower.
The formula among no-planers depend on their further interest on forensic evidence which sometimes can lead to a "forensic hangout" or not.
In the worst scenario i call this planehugging as well, no matter if they call themselves noplaners or someone else labelled them as such from outside.

Back to the traditional idea of 9/11 TV Fakery, which is a "subset of the evidence":

During 2006 and now in 2007 we also developed the concept of the so called 9/11 video mashups, such an on youtube, livevideo etc.

I wanted to thank fetz for linking to video mashups of myself and my associate fred aka Bsregistration, whose 9/11 Octopus DVD will be available in NYC soon.

"Now as the evidence for TV Fakery has become overwhelming, it is also clear that it's a key avenue for awakening newcomers to the lies of the Official Story"

...anyway, in these mashups we present different styles of presenting the evidence on 9/11 tv fakery, but also the oppression of evidence on exotic weaponry, or exo-weaponry.
i am convinced that more exo-weapons besides directed-energy were used to destroy the twin towers.

I have pointed out in my latest findings, thats possible that improved nuclear systems could have been used, but also perhaps antimatter- or even neutrino weaponry.

Which brings us to PJones.

Where i politically disagree with Fetzer is that he protects Jones on a political level. He argues on science and against thermite, but ignores Jones' past with exotic weaponry
incl. at the KEK (in Japan) where jones observed neutrino weaponry experiments and maybe even protects the real 9/11 perps who used his knowlegde to develop the weapons.
I call this "bodyguarding" of jones.

I also call Pjones a political traitor, White Collar Criminal and/or desktop criminal.
I will explain this:
Pjones "Has a background in exotic weapons research", he is "covering up the use of exotic weapons" and "ridiculed the work of professor Wood, Fetzer, and Reynolds".

Jones is also highly complicit in the cover-up of free-energy for his role as ([Poppy]) Bush's "chief investigator" of cold fusion. This is the so-called "Heavy Watergate" scandal. I call jones a traitor to humanity for covering up this knowledge. Eugene Mallove, the leading free-energy researcher, called Steve Jones a fraud. Mallove was mysteriusly assassinated.

[breath]

Judy Wood's grad student, Michael Zebuhr, exposed Steve Jones as a fraud for his 9/11 research and was mysteriously assassinated.

I refer here to 911researchers.com for more on all these issues.

I would like Jim to publicly address all of these issues. I would also like Jim to comment on former Star Wars head Bob Bowman and former Star Wars/Trailblazer contractor Jim Hoffman or even NSA laser-researcher Greg Jenkins.

And whether any of these people are tied to the "Directed-Energy Professional Society" at deps.org.

They organized at least 50 public conferences and workshops since 2000!
...

..im [also] happy that we have an opportunity to now show some/one of the most popular 9/11 video mashups so far.

thx peggy and the audience for having an ear on all this..."

++++++

http://www.911researchers.com/blog/9
The 9/11 StarWars ExoW CoverUp:
Why NASA and NGA was part of the Perp System

Don Imus feat.Kanye, Jackie

Don Imus feat.Kanye, Jackie Ashe-9/11 "Inside Job"
http://badjojo.com/members/viewVideo.php?video_id=2732
(By 911Ilsas)

Don Imus feat. Jay-Z, Kanye West, Bow Wow vs. Jackie Ashe and Friends-
9/11 was an "Inside Job" (9/11 TV Fakery Grind XXX Mix)

9/11 was an "Inside Job" of a special kind.
U.S. Media was part of it.
The cover-up of 9/11 TV Fakery continues.

The false-flag stinks like a lost condome ;

Steven Jones is a multiple

Steven Jones is a multiple traitor and spook!
911blogger is a criminal cover-up front, manipulated by former Prof.Jones' lapdog Alex Floum aka GeorgeWash (st911) !!

The NRO, deps.org and the Raytheon PMC clan did 9/11!

9/11 ExoW Cover-Up: Founder of Satellite Agency NRO linked to deps.org

9/11 ExoW Cover-Up: Founder of Satellite Agency NRO linked to deps.org
Wiliam L Baker and 'William O. Baker' apparently related [same person] and high ups in DirEN research
picked up at:
http://www.911researchers.com/node/403#comment-3061

...

DR. WILLIAM L. BAKER
"..Dr. William L. Baker, a member of the scientific and professional cadre of senior executives, is Chief Scientist, Directed Energy Directorate, Air Force Research Laboratory, Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M...
...PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND ASSOCIATIONS
American Physical Society
American Association for the Advancement of Science
Board member, Directed Energy Professional Society
Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers...

http://www.nro.gov/PressReleases/prs_rel40.html
NRO HONORS PIONEERS OF NATIONAL RECONNAISSANCE

August 18, 2000

...

The Founders of National Reconnaissance are:

William O. Baker, Ph.D.
A physical chemist and signals intelligence expert at AT&T Bell Laboratories, Dr. William Baker served as scientific counselor to the NSA, CIA, USN, and NRO on overhead reconnaissance systems. He also served on the President's Science Advisory Committee and the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board...
http://www.nro.gov/

"...The NRO designs, builds and operates the nation's reconnaissance satellites...

...The organization was declassified in September 1992 followed by the location of its headquarters in Chantilly, VA, in 1994. In February 1995, CORONA, a photoreconnaissance program in operation from 1960 to 1972, was declassified and 800,000 CORONA images were transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration. In December 1996, the NRO announced for the first time, in advance, the launch of a reconnaissance satellite...

http://www.deps.org/DEPSpages/DEPSteam.html
DIRECTED ENERGY PROFESSIONAL SOCIETY
Board of Directors (Year term expires)

Dr. William Baker (2009)
wbaker@deps.org
...

wbaker@deps.org
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:iDp-t2Sw5okJ:www.nro.gov/PressRelea...

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_O._Baker
William O. Baker, Ph.D., is a "physical chemist and signals intelligence expert at AT&T Bell Laboratories." Dr. Baker served as scientific counselor to the National Security Agency (NSA), Central Intelligence Agency CIA, the U.S. Navy (USN), and National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) on "overhead reconnaissance systems." He also served on the President's Science Advisory Committee and the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.
In August 2000, Baker was honored by the NRO as a founder/pioneer of National Reconnaissance.

Friday's NASA Shooter

Friday's NASA Shooter directly linked to DirEN Weaponry

(*thx also to Gritzle70)

"NASA identified the slain man as David Beverly, a
62-year-old NASA worker...

http://www.lloyds.com/CmsPhoenix/DowJonesArticle.aspx?id=325049

Gunman At NASA Is Employee Of Jacobs Engineering -Reports

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- A man with a handgun who barricaded himself on the second floor of an office building Friday at NASA's Johnson Space Center has been identified as an employee of Jacobs Engineering Inc. (JEC), according to press reports...
...Local television station KTRK's Web site quoted Houston Police as identifying the gunman as William Phillips Jr., 60, a contractor with Jacobs Engineering....

http://www.jacobs.com/aboutus/overview.asp

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=117895&p=irol-newsArticle&ID...
TULLAHOMA, Tenn., Feb 06, 2007 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX News Network/ -- Jacobs Engineering Group Inc.

"...Jacobs also provides specialty expertise in new and emerging technologies such as directed energy; weapons..."

Well, nice to see another winner of BANNING FEST 2007

But does anyone else notice that this shill hit a thread with Nico in it?

Coincidence or deliberate?

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