i still want to see one of the "5 or 6 amateur videos" that support this absurd theory. there are amateur videos on google video with the planes just as they appeared on cnn, fox, nbc, etc. where are the videos judy and morgan? and is it five or six? this is bs, plain and simple.

I got through half of it, and have a total dislike for Reynolds. He misquotes SJ, and then makes up a fairytale about the picture that SJ provides.
MR will never make any headways on this kind of thinking because under his logic, all evidence is doctored or atleast most pictures are. That kind of BS will get you nowhere, just make you look bad. I am not mad at Reynolds for asking questions, he is purely debating and asking questions that can never be answered. He intentionally asks questions and so many of them, that you would have to research a picture for months just to get to the bottom of it, and then he'll have more questions. It gets nowhere, and it seems like MR is not helping anyone, just casting a ton of useless doubt

alex jones cuts morgan reynolds out of terrorstorm. Alex jones has remained relatively quiet about Morgan's recent plunge into psychosis. Although i have heard him indirectly attacking people like Nico on many ocassions, and calling the no-plane theories (including the pentagon one) a "honey-pot" by design

Stop the bickering please...

DZ, I'm very glad to hear that you will no longer publish this spat between Jones and the 'tag-team' of Reynolds & Wood. You are right. This crap does NOT belong on the front pages of 911blogger.

This kind of divisiveness can only harm the entire 911 Truth Movement. If a person newly exposed to this kind of childish behavior comes here looking for 9/11 Truth, they will certainly leave thinking poorly of all involved in the search.

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Look folks, Reynolds is a Bush tool. How can we tell? Simple. First off, consider the tone of his screed against Jones. It sound's like some junior high girl's ripping up a romantic rival, not a scholarly paper. Jones does not in fact work bizarre religious beliefs into his presentations as Reynolds insinuates. Second, consider his going on and on about "high energy" explosives which apparently vaporized all the steel. Where oh where is all the steel? I guess Reynolds assumes everyone else who reads his stuff is completely stupid. Remember how the WTC buildings had many stories of parking deck below them? How about all the steel collapsing down into the basement structures? Note in how many different videos of the search and rescue phase it's almost all below street level. Third, consider the no planes theory. How many different pairs of eyes and cameras were focused on the towers after the first plane hit to catch the second plane hitting? There must have been some hundreds of thousands that saw the second plane.

Reynolds is trying to slow Jones down. He's also trying to advance the most absurd, easily debunked crap about 9/11 to taint everything else in the eyes of the science/academic community. I don't know what Wood's problem is but you can read the comments on this link to get some interesting perspective on her: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=495285

How Reynolds is even allowed to be a member of the Scholars is beyond me. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing and it's easily proven.

I have no vested interest in any of the players in this battle, but Reynolds and Wood come off badly - personally insulting Jones many times while parsing sentences and whining. They're sounding like a couple of assholes, and I'm glad you're leaving the pissing match to them.

And, personally, the NPT sounds ridiculous and pointless. Why take the chance with pulling off no planes over Manhattan during morning rush hour, especially after the first impact while the whole friggin world is watching?? Occam's Razor tell me they go with simple, existing remote control technology.

The response from Morgan and Woods, which I unhappily slogged through, is transparent, ad hominem crap.

These two are on a mission to subvert the efforts of the 9/11 movement.

It seems clear Reynolds & Wood are doing nothing more than casting doubt on the entire 9/11 truth movement by insinuating there is division in the 9/11 Truth community with the creation of false debates.

It is their intention, as they draw Steven Jones into their debate, to make him look equally involved in the divisive argument while they make underlying cheap shots and subversive character assassinations.

These two even go so far as to question the professor's intentions when Jones has been nothing but polite in his responses.

Very imcompetent or corrupt behavior.

There is going around poeple that claim to be part of the truth movement, and distracting by making us distrust Jones and the site 911truth.org and Alex Jone for example.
Look this is all that join claims of the fall of the twin towers:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
I've seen many David Ray grifin documentaries
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6837001821567284154&q=david+ray+...
Judge griffin for yourself in that video, ive seen wild claims that grifin, Steven jones is misleading the truth movement, when they have focused on the points that have been ommited on the official truth, they have been wild claims that those authors have spoken things that are out of norm.
Please do not waste your time in the disinfo that is being thrown out at this moment.
I say that we really dont know how the towers came down. We know for sure that they didn't come down because of the planes(wheter it was hit or not hit by any planes) why waste our time argueing about no planes.
We are wasting to much time about Profesor Jones and Grifin, when they all have lay out what has been omitted by the commision report. Jones suggest that thermite might have been used, but not by itself as other types of explosives might have been used along with what profesor Jones suggest.
Lets focus on the facts that according to the structural design of the towers and the steel graded to resist fires of 2000F for 6 hours, therefore making it a silly idea that 50 minutes to 1 hour of jet fuel fire, which by the way burned in the fireballs of the impacts that couldn't have weaken the steel. We dont really know what kind of method of wiring(wired or wireless), or what kind of explosive was used, But we certainly know that fire and the planes crashing couldn't have made the towers collapse in around 10 seconds.
The tapes that never where realase around the pentagon. We only got 5 frames of video at 1 frame per second. Give me a break a 20 dollar webcam that I bought films video at 30 FPS, i dont believe that the most protected building in the world had cheaper camaras than that.
Lets focus in the removal of evidence and the complete denial of the attacks, which shows clear negligence by the bush administration, like when they come in public and state that they had no idea they would use hijack planes to attack us, when there is clear proof they had knownledge that those kinds of attack might happen.
Lets focus on how they rushed to claim to know the identities of the hijackers, when they dont even have the DNA from where to match it. Lets focus on the lie from where they assured us that Bin Laden was the mastermind of 911 when not even the CIA.gov website charge him with the 911 crime. When they never has given us proof that al qaeda
was behind the attacks, all those boldface lies, that launch us into 2 wars, the deaths of thousands of soldiers and civilians in Iraq and afganistan, all because of faulty inteligence, but rather more like deliverate actions of letting a terrorist attack happen or even worst making it happen, would launch the country in total confusion, so they could launch they agenda that included the Patriot Act, the Department of Homeland Security and the invasion of Afganistan, Iraq and probably Iran.
All those facts of negligence are just enough to Impeach and Jailed them for treason and negligency by acting withouth concrete proof. Such grave errors are not to be allowed by the United States and so we should protect our constitution and get competent leaders in our government by removing the failure of Administration we have now.
There is no proof that Bin Laden did it, but they claim with certainty that he did, they claim al qaeda did it, the cannot prove it, they cannot find traces of any terrorist cells that could have sponsor the would be hijackers, other than thier claims that have so far been lies or so they blame on faulty inteligence.
If there was no proof that Afganistan and Iraq did it therefore the Bush Administration entered us into 2 illigal wars
I agree that Afganistan and Iraq had terrorist that hated us and our freedoms, and sooner or later we had to take them out like we already did but with solid proof and not paranoid beliefs like the Bush administration, but what angers me are the lies that made us enter those wars. What I despise about all this is the sacrifice of more than 3000 thousand people that the bush administration used to enter a war for Oil and not for freedoms.

Woods and Reynolds have been removed from the Scholars for 9/11 Truth members page...