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Dear Democracy Now!
Dear Democracy Now!,
On Wednesday, May 26th, 2004, you featured a "debate" between Chip Berlet and author David Ray Griffin - "The New Pearl Harbor: A Debate On A New Book That Alleges The Bush Administration Was Behind The 9/11 Attacks" - (Link.)
Many people who have been following skepticism of the "official story" of 9/11 were deeply disappointed by this lopsided "debate", which more or less concluded with this challenge by Amy Goodman;
AMY GOODMAN: Name just one. Name just one structural engineering expert who said it is not feasible that the planes caused the towers to go down.
You will be pleased to note that we can name one now, his name is Charles N. Pegelow, you can read his resume here.
Since naming one "just one" Structural Engineer "who said it is not feasible that the planes caused the towers to go down" seems to be some sort of litmus test for Democracy Now!, surely it's time for a rematch. Or at the very least, a serious critical examination of the mountain of evidence that suggests that the "official" story of 9/11 (as recorded by the 9/11 Commission in their Report) should be undertaken, (finally), by Democracy Now!?
Or, are the rumors that foundation funding will stop if Democracy Now! undertakes a serious examination of alternative 9/11 theories, (Referred to by many as "9/11 Truth") true?
Is a lop-sided hit-piece debate seriously the best we can expect from D-Now!?
Are you aware that a Professor of Economics (Paul Zarembka) has studied publicly available data regarding the "put" option rumors that arose after 9/11 and found that "indeed, there is evidence of insider trading before 9-11 on American Airlines and United Airlines."
Are you aware that one of the most astute researchers of British and American covert operations writing today (Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed) has spent 5 years researching al-Qaeda & 9/11 and concluded that, "It (al-Qaeda) has no existence as an independent concrete entity. It designates a highly developed category of Western covert operations designed to secure destabilization through the creation, multiplication, mobilization, and manipulation of disparate mujahideen groups. The evidence suggests that this was certainly the case on 9-11."
Are you aware of the large data dump of First-Responder oral histories made public last year by the New York Times? Here are some samples;
"we heard . . . what sounded like a loud explosion and looked up and I saw tower two start coming down" - Sudnick.
"I heard three explosions, and then . . . tower two started to come down" - Darnowski.
"it almost sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight" - Turilli.
"heard explosions coming from . . . the south tower. . . . There were about ten explosions. . . . We then realized the building started to come down" - Carlsen.
"it looked like the building was blowing out on all four sides. We actually heard the pops" - Meola.
"It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was---do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear 'Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop'? . . . I thought it was that." - Rivera.
"the building popped, lower than the fire. . . . I was going oh, my god, there is a secondary device because the way the building popped. I thought it was an explosion" - Burke.
"It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit. . . . [W]e originally had thought there was like an internal detonation, explosives, because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down" - Cachia.
Democracy Now! broadcasts from a former N.Y.F.D. Firehouse, shouldn't this testimony be considered merely out of respect for the many NY fire personnel who died on duty on 9/11?
How can you just ignore it? Downplay it? Ridicule it? Belittle it?
I hope that others will join me in asking Democracy Now! to wake up, clear the fog, abandon the propaganda, and start asking some serious questions about what happened to this country on 9/11/2001.
Sincerely,
A skeptic.
Yes! And what about the building that wasn't struck by a plane!
Great letter reprehensor. And what about the the building that collapsed that day-- the one Goodman herself can be seen watching live, in person!
Provocateurs For Truth? I'm getting tired of this B.S.
If Amy is really a brilliant 'provocateur for truth', by ignoring or beating up the truth camp until we focus or better hone our arguments.... she's running out of time fast, and employing a tactic which has almost completely run its course.
Get with it, Amy.... or step out of the way.
Oh YES
Very nice work. Let's all send this to Ms. Goodman & Co.
thats not even the half of
thats not even the half of it.. check this out.. this is a submission from carol:
Here is an event we might want to protest ! ! ! ! !
The head Left Gatekeeper herself, Amy Goodman has a new book coming out and she's having a book party/reception on the early evening of 9/11 at Cooper Union and she's charging people for the coming.
This seems pretty unbelieveable ! The event is taking place on 9/11 and doesn't even mention it ! ! !
It seems pretty oblivious to the date and what its really the anniversary of----not her show !
We should send a contingent of people to protest ! ! !
Its bad enough that she never talks about 9/11 on her show, which is so popular and on a zillion radio stations and tv stations but she's having a book launch party that night with food and music. The event description, (copied and pasted below from the link from the Democracy Now website) does not mention 9/11 at all, though it is taking place on the evening of 9/11. It treats that date like just another day.
No matter what version of the 9/11 story you believe, whether you are a 9/11 truther or still cling to the official version, it seems pretty oblivious, unfeeling and in bad taste to have a book launch party that night. Its a solemn anniversary----a time to reflect, commemorate the nearly 3000 people who died. Can't you just see the tv/radio story the next day the next day making fun of her.
Award-winning journalist Amy Goodman, host of the daily, grassroots, global, radio/TV news hour Democracy Now!, is on a national speaking tour to mark DN!'s 10th anniversary and launch her second book with journalist David Goodman, Static: Government Liars, Media Cheerleaders, and the People Who Fight Back.
WHERE: Cooper Union Great Hall, Astor Pl - 7th St at 3rd Ave
WHEN: 9/11/06 - Event @ 7:30 PM, Reception @ 5:30 PM
DESCRIPTION:
Join AMY GOODMAN, JUAN GONZALEZ, DAVID GOODMAN and BERNARD WHITE on the 10th anniversary of Democracy Now!. The evening features a special performance by renowned jazz bassist and composer, CHARLIE HADEN, with the Liberation Music Orchestra. The event is a DN!/WBAI benefit, and launches the new book by Amy and David Goodman, "STATIC: Government Liars, Media Cheerleaders, and the People Who Fight Back." The event will be preceeded by a reception with Amy, Juan, David, Bernard, Charlie Haden and other special guests. Reception tickets include event admission, one personally signed copy of book, hors d'oeuvres and wine.
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Get tickets online or call 212-431-9090 x822
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$100 reception tickets (includes event) [ click here ]
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thats right, she is having a book signing which requires payment to attend on 9/11..
Here is an event we might
Here is an event we might want to protest ! ! ! ! !
The head Left Gatekeeper herself, Amy Goodman has a new book coming out and she's having a book party/reception on the early evening of 9/11 at Cooper Union and she's charging people for the coming.
That is just totally outrageous & infuriating!!!
Protest Book Signing!!
I'll join that contingency of protesters...hell I'll spend the 100 bucks to infiltrate it!!!!! When the protesters arrive outside, some of us on the'inside'can start raising our voices in protest ....I'm picturing a mini-version of the 68 Chicago, Democratic convention.....(hopefully, minus the baton beatings and arrests)
"I rise in support and solidarity with the truth seekers shouting for justice outside these privileged walls of silence and demand the Left Gates be opened to the Truth of 911!!!"
Damn straight!
Anyone who knowingly stands in the way of the truth shall be punished. If they want to play tough, than so shall we. The time for pussyfooting around has past. It's time to get tough!
Got My Tickets For the 911 Amy Goodman "Event": Anyone Else?
Just got my tickets for the whole Democracy Now event. Including the wine and jazz hob-nobbing reception.Would any one else like to join me or offer suggestions on how best to utilize this situation for 911 Truth and open the left wing gates? Don't get me wrong....I am a progressive who use to love chompsky,Goodman, Barsamian...ect...until 911 started to filter the wheat from the chafe , so to speak. We need to force them to openly deal with 911.
My dream would be to have William Rodriguez openly confront Juan Gonzales and Barrie Zwicker to openly confront Miss Goodman. I think there is a lot of potential here....and I also think some wine, jazz, and appetizers would be nice after a long hard day of 911 Truth outreach.
Dz,Jon,SMG,Justin,Dylan,Reprehensor Corey ??????? Any takers?
(At the very least we should have as many people as possible show up for the official book signing event (20$) with our 911 Truth shirts awkwardely filling the audience.) Radical Pragmatist
Excellent!
I would join you in a second if I was gonna be in NYC.
Goodman pulled a shill-quote on DRG
AMY GOODMAN: "Name just one. Name just one structural engineering expert who said it is not feasible that the planes caused the towers to go down."
Wow, Amy; that's a serious shill quotation from you! You never heard of fear, itimidation, ridicule, gag orders, threats, national security b.s., loss of job, blacklisting, peer pressure, controlled msm promoting the OV...
Goodman's been running this scam too long
Let's break down her little gatekeeping operation.
Off topic
WTF do you make of this??
http://www.worldslastchance.com/#
Or this
Now this is just crazy!!
http://blog.outer-court.com/patriot/mission.html
where the hell did you find
where the hell did you find that? that cant be serious.......
This is one of the SICKEST
This is one of the SICKEST things I have ever seen!!!! WTF!!
Couldn't help myself ...
... had to send them an email, asking if it it joke ... not really expecting an answer ...
yeah, ive read a tiny bit
yeah, ive read a tiny bit about that kind of stuff. apparently the next pope, after the one we have now dies, is going to be the anti-christ and will bring about the end times. according to religious doomsayers anyway.
this is only the 5678th time
this is only the 5678th time someone has predicted the end-of-times, what are the odds they're right this rime?
Religion is all only opinion.
Conspoperacies are pure disinfo.
Not that the RC church is great, but this particular brand of Illuminati, Jesuit, Knights Templar, etc. nonsense is supposed to dovetail neatly with the crap put into people's heads by the Davinci Code--that marvel of overhyped crap.
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
She could care less, and we
She could care less, and we should certainly not be begging her to see reason--she's made her bed, period. She is no better than Bill O'Reilly, just has a different target audience to mislead. Just because she is haggard-looking and claims to speak for the downtrodden doesn't mean she's not corrupt. What has she accomplished other than to lead idealistic youth around in circles of pointless so-called dissent? She is no fool, confused about the issues, just as Noam Chomsky knows exactly what is going on. Give me liberty, or give her hell!
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
Proving herself worthless, or proving whom she carries water for
Amy and her should-know-better smarts, "leading idealistic youth around in circles of pointless so-called dissent."
Point-blank.
e
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
"What has she accomplished
"What has she accomplished other than to lead idealistic youth around in circles of pointless so-called dissent"
Still, she was one of the two journalists who were present in the Vera Cruz massacre, in East Timor, in the early 90's, and brought it into world knowledge (though most of american media ignored it, until a videotape showed up). Also, in the late 90's, one of her coleagues found out, through secret cables back and forth the US and Indonesia, that the Indonesian were behind the attacks by milicias in East Timor at that time (after the referendum), and were being supported (not tactically) by the US.
Measure The "Out-Come":
You are further begging the question by pointing out this very back-round of Amy; Most people exposed to such extremes of injustice, are incapable of maintaining a pretended "face" when looking at a case like 9/11.
If you're defending her, which is clearly understandable, you still beg for an answer to an ever tougher question.
For me, I am reduced to only two possibilities for explaining Amy's mind set:
1) She does not know that a dangerous parity is growing fast between Official Believers vs. non-believers.
OR!
2) She knows, but for some reason she actively chooses to discuss other things.
Can you offer a third, unconsidered?
If that reason is because she's not in command of herself.... what the hell can any of us do about that? "She's made her bed." as was said earlier.
If she's trying to brilliantly flush the story while pretending 'there is no story'..... the hour is late, Amy Sweetheart.
Turning up the calls and demands to her that she look closer at this subject, revels a person not responding in any recognizable way as someone committed to FIXING and dispelling with confusion. She delegitimizes herself and looks more like a passenger/follower, rather than any kind of leader for truth. In my opinion.
e
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
A book party?
A fucking book party? I am appalled.
Don't worry, they'll serve fair-trade coffee.
Hasta la Victoria's Secret!! Oh yeah, Counterpunch--more fake left BS...
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
"Ignore That Elephant In The Room, Maybe It Will Just Go Away."
Counterpunch has largely ignored pleas to get down and dirty for years. Maybe that's why PCR has become more distant from them?
e
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
Payne Stewart Interception
http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/2000/aab0001.htm
I would like to get some facts straight about Payne Stewart interception. Please help me. According to the above document:
09:33 EDT – The first time something was noted wrong: controller instructed Payne to change radio frequencies and contact another controller, but there was no response. About 1010 EDT, the accident airplane crossed from the EDT zone to the CDT zone in the vicinity of Eufaula, Alabama. About 0952 CDT (1052 EDT) a USAF F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base (AFB), Florida, was vectored to within 8 nm of N47BA.8 About 0954 CDT (1054 EDT), at a range of 2,000 feet from the accident airplane and an altitude of about 46,400 feet,9 the test pilot made two radio calls to N47BA but did not receive a response. About 1000 CDT (1100 EDT), the test pilot began a visual inspection of N47BA.
This means that according to this document, as I understand it, it took almost 90 minutes between first notice of something wrong, and a visual inspection by a jet fighter.
I know that some have claimed this was 30 minutes, but it appears that according to this document, because of the change in time zones, the actual time to visual inspection was 90 minutes.
Could somebody please let me know if this document is inaccurate or my understanding of the time to interception is inaccurate.
if it is 6am edt that means
if it is 6am edt that means its 5am cdt.
other words you loose an hour from east to west per time zone
it seems to me that they messesd up the whole timeline in this report unless you go edt all the way
Payne Stewart interception
I was living in Sarasota at the time and the Stewart plane event received a lot of coverage. The plane had reached cruising altitude when contact was lost. Interception took place in less than 20 minutes, while the plane was still in Florida airspace, and fighters accompanied it all the way across country until it ran out of gas and crashed in the upper Mid-West. From take-off to intercept may have been about 30 minutes. It was not on the order of 90 minutes but much quicker. This personal recollection should be easy to verify on the basis of many contemporary news accounts in Floria newspapers.









i love it. we gotta hold her
i love it. we gotta hold her feet to the fire and call her bluff on this.