There were evidently two black boxes recovered from AA77. Presumably one had the cockpit recorder and the other was the flight data recorder (FDR). There's been a lot of talk about these boxes.

One token individual, Allyn Kilsheimer, a structural engineer who arrived at the Pentagon shortly after it was hit claimed that himself found AA77's black box. Popular Mechanics quoted him in their magazine article as a star witness along with his claim that "I found the black box."

But Newsweek had reported that the TWO black boxes had been found--by firefighters three days after 9/11. So when PM expanded the original hit piece into their book Debunking 9/11 Myths, they simply modified that part of his quote (with no explanation) to say, "I stood on a pile of debris that we later found contained the black box . . ."

Prof. Griffin noted this in Debunking 9/11 Debunking: "At what school of journalistic ethics did the PM authors learn that, if part of a statement you have quoted from one of your star witnesses turns out to be false . . . you may simply change that part of the statement . . . ?"

But Kilsheimer wasn't done. I noticed in that History Channel piece in August 2007, that Hearst trotted out this same "witness" who then claimed, "I tripped over something; it was the black box." So, first he "found" it, then he stood on a pile of debris later found to contain it, and now the story is he "tripped over" it. This guy seem to have some profound psychological relationship with the black box.

But then there's the other story that one of the boxes was actually found near the exit hole, some 90 or so feet away. Obviously both stories can't be true (though PM has apparently endorsed both, go figure.) But according to the official story, two black boxes from AA77 were recovered at the Pentagon.

(I'm not a researcher like many here--please correct any misstatements in the above.)

Can anyone confirm the 'independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia"..?

. . . is Warren Stutt. The link downloads from his web page www.warrenstutt.com. All it has are links to pages describing his FDR decoder work on the various flights.

My questions too, rm. Rob Balsamo should come on personally to explain it. I will relay what he says on the P4T forum. He gives this download for simplicity:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XX44XLUH
This is a csvfile of the Flight Deck Door and GMT time parameters side-by-side. Rob comments: "For those who don't want to scroll through 1.5 hours of flight, just click Edit/Find on your spreadsheet and type in OPEN, click Find. It's not there. The door was closed for the entire flight according to the data." "Status of the cockpit door was updated every 4 seconds throughout the flight and not once during that time does the data indicate the door was open."

P4T claimed to have decoded the raw file themselves more than 2 years ago, but it showed all zeroes and apparently they didn't realize the significance. "Warren (Stutt) proved in terms of the Data Frame Layout that (0=Closed, 1=Open )." If this can be verified, it's a bombshell. I don't yet know what to make of it. Here's some more back-and-forth from the forum:
http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18405

Is it not the case that FAA regulations state that the cockpit access door *MUST* be closed as soon as the Captain and First officer are in their seats at the time the engines are started up prior to the final pre-flight checks? The data suggests that the door's status was unchanged from the start of the FDR recording and the end of the data stream. If the door was either opened or closed during the transmission, then the status bit would change from a 'zero' to a 'one', or a 'one to a 'zero', respectively. This did not happen throughout the entire flight, unless there was a malfunction on the sensor.

This is a serious development. The status of the door was unchanged, meaning Hanjour did not come into the cockpit to take over control of the plane. If Fl.77 indeed hit the Pentagon it was hijacked remotely. The Olson story is a fraud. The 9/11 story is a fraud.

Rob Balsamo should come on personally to explain it.

I believe he's banned?

It seems that every time some one in the media wants to make us look like "conspiracy theorists" they want to talk about;

1. No Planes
2. The Pentagon

Is there a lesson to learn from that?

Ask yourself a question...do you want to win or be happy as a conspiracy theorists?

Regards John

9/11 24/7 UNTIL JUSTICE!!
www.truthaction.org.au

thanks for all you do. All that has been uncovered adds up. I speak for myself when i say all i needed to see was the collapse of all three buildings to know that something was very wrong with the official story.
The deeper i dug the more i was convinced it wasn't just wrong ........It's total bullshit.
I've built high rise buildings, although nothing as high as the towers.
Richard Gage is dead on accurate in his assessment and although most people don't have a clue it's very apparent when shown to trade workers, or engineers that haven't seen his presentation.
Hopefully Americans will wake up soon to all the corruption, and demand the truth with accountability.

jon has done a magnificent job here!
I am wondering if he thinks that the Neil Harrit peer reviewed paper is also discrediting to the Truth Movement.....
or is that a different topic than "CD"....which sounds to the uninitiated as if you are talking about some new music that is disturbing...
I NEVER use that phrase and instead talk about the preplanned destruction of the THREE steel framed buildings on 911....

It seems that every time someone in the media wants to make us look like "conspiracy theorists" they want to talk about 9-11, so god forbit we talk about anything, and as Jon says, especially Controlled Demolition.

LOL

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org
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I work for the 9-11 First Responders, the 9-11 victims, and all those who are being slaughtered and tortured because of 9-11.

Untrue?

you were voted down, Jon. The CBC program was horrible, as confusing as I thought it would be.

This “unspeakable,” this hypnotic “collective denial of the obvious,” is sustained by a mass-media whose repeated message is that the truth about such significant events is beyond our grasp, that we will have to drink the waters of uncertainty forever. As for those who don’t, they are relegated to the status of conspiracy nuts.
We know the obvious.......... The truth is coming!