The guy that started that OP at JREF, "redbis," is himself a truther (one of the few who debates the jrefers at their home base) and was actually mocking the actual "debunkers" with his OP.

I thought the JREFers had really spun out of control once and for all.

Thanks for clearing that up.

It's good to see JREF under constant and sustained attack.

I was fooled too, it must be because the post was so ignorant and slanderous it resembled 90% of the other posts over there.

The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry

Here is a column written by Dwain Deets. But look who shows up in the comments section. None other than Mr. Tour Guide himself.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-it-Science-or-Honesty-t-by-Dwain-Dee...

Do you mean Pat Curley, by "Mr. Tour Guide?"

No, Mark Roberts.

Go and read it people, because Roberts is getting his can kicked by Deets and Szamboti. I can't help the schadenfreude.

Why vote Bruno down on this? Is there a problem with Mr. Deets or are some people here just anti-AE911Truth? Explain please.

having mulitple presentors fro AE911 is essential, if we are ever going to change the myth of 9.11

You were down to -3 on the voting a minute ago. Since you have presented a sensible idea, I don't know what to make of that.

Over a year ago I asked Richard Gage via email what sort of growth he saw in his membership - was it straight line? He did not know. Since I monitor his site weekly to see the numbers, I would guess that it is. He can only reach so many in a presentation.

Clearly, there needs to be some higher order of growth, and this would require more people presenting the case to audiences, with the drive and persistence exhibited by Gage. It is a huge commitment, one that I suspect few would make. There are people both with the technical expertise and the speaking talent out there, and quite possibly some of them are on board with controlled demolition. I would be surprised if Gage has not attempted to recruit a few others to take on the job of giving his talk. He has 900 or so on his list, I hope that a few more are willing to educate the world.

We can't expect another Richard Gage AIA - someone giving their all every single day. Even if a second person can make one presentation a month, then that would be a great addition to the cause. Then a third, and a fourth. As they become more comfortable with their presentations, they will become better, and I imagine they will find more and more time to devote.

As far as the down votes, we all need to band together to counteract an effort by some on this and other websites to steer the 9-11 Truth community away from the most compelling evidence for our cause. http://911blogger.com/node/21615#comment

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org

Quite a while ago I suggested to Richard and the AE911truth team that they ask for volunteers, from among the signatories who have the expertise, to give the AE911truth presentaion in different areas of the country to amplify the message and take some of the drudgery off of Richard himself.

Richard was concerned that things would or could get out of control and harm the credibility of AE911truth.org. Of course, there is a chance for infiltrators to cause problems here so the team was looking for a sound way to vet presenters and ensure the message wasn't modified. I can understand this concern, but think necessary precautions could be taken and that the potential gain is enormous.

I have done a presentation myself, with my own material, with Graeme MacQueen in Walkerton, Ontario last June. I will also be presenting this information in the near future to other groups.

If there were 50 to 100 architects and engineers presenting the AE911truth message around the country the public attention would be tremendous. Maybe something like it will happen, as it looks like Richard is slowly coming around to allowing additional presenters use of the AE911truth material as he gets more familiar with others who have spoken out like Dwain Deets.

Engineer Derek Johnson, an AE911truth member, has done some excellent presentations in Texas in the last year. From what I have seen he is a capable and knowledgeable speaker.

"as it looks like Richard is slowly coming around to allowing additional presenters use of the AE911truth material"

Richard Gage AIA never gave me the impression that he wants to keep it all to himself. He has been openly hoping for others (Architect and Engineer members) to begin speaking out. I would think that his continual growing success is making the endeavor more attractive to other patriotic professionals on his team. We can all trust that he will provide the necessary guidance to ensure the integrity of all presenters and presentations. Growth is very important. Manageable growth is crucial.

With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org

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