Alex Jones on Alan Colmes Tonight- CONFIRMED

Its confirmed:

http://www.foxnews.com/alancolmesradio/index.html

A prominent conspiracy theorist says we'll soon see massive -- but staged -- terror attacks. Can his claims be believed?

After Alex obliterates Colmes with truth and logic, hopefully he'll get a shot at Hannity who deserves it more...

Haupt really gets on my

Haupt really gets on my nerves with his nonstop barrage of no-plane bullshit! Guy is really trying to damage the truth movement. He needs to be held accountable.

I told the guy, "Nah, that

I told the guy, "Nah, that comes from a complete moron named Nico Haupt..."

WTF is THIS CRAP all

WTF is THIS CRAP all about?

It's about stinking rich celebrities who don't want to rock the boat and bite the hand that feeds them.

same here, ive already had

same here, ive already had to distance myself from the no planes bullshit various times in the past few weeks.

When I was handing out

When I was handing out flyers last weekend, someone said to me in a condascending way, "You're the guys that say no planes hit the towers right?"

Disinformation is Disinformation for a reason.

Morgan DID work for the

Morgan DID work for the George W. Bush administration, so i have ALWAYS taken everything he says with a grain of salt. maybe hes getting scared because of the progress we have been making, so now hes going into CGI overdrive. just a thought.

Nico, real aircraft of some

Nico, real aircraft of some sort hit the WTC. You are a cartoon.

You know what Morgan gets

You know what Morgan gets Nico for that statement?

My contempt.

...someone who also gets

...someone who also gets it...

Playing the 9/11 Unity Card
Morgan Reynolds
August 16, 2006

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=unity_card

...I like clarity and AbrahamsonÂ’s got it: the truth might decrease political success, prove divisive, isolate us from the media and average Americans, maybe even give us bunions. The familiar political solution? Lie, cheat and steal. Smile and kiss babies while doing so. And you thought the truth movement believed truth was our best friend and that the truth will set us free.

In effect, the reason people are supposed to shut up about the findings that no 767s crashed into WTC towers is to get face time on the Tucker Carlson show. Yes, we are supposed to play nice so the controlled media will have Jim Fetzer, Steven Jones, Michael Berger, Kevin Barrett and such on television.

Fact: the television propaganda machine was in on the 9/11crimes, for GodÂ’s sake. Proving their complicity through TV-fakery or any variant of the no-plane-theory would expose the media as accessories to mass murder and one day will put them squarely in defendantsÂ’ chairs. Truth suppression is not about what the public can stomach but what the media can stomach. One day the media will be exposed for the naked criminals they are...

For we are opposed around

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.-John F. Kennedy

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/JFK_Video_Speech.html

Seeing Alex Jones come out

Seeing Alex Jones come out from his "central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines" and verbally wrestle with Big Alan Colmes would be great. Hope this will be airing tonight.

Mr. X, well, it's Hollywood.

Mr. X,

well, it's Hollywood. What do you expect?

Bumped-up from lower

Bumped-up from lower thread:

Jason said that Loose Change (Final Cut) has been delayed and will now make its World Premeire at The Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah 18-28 January 2007 and then go into the theatres for general distribution in Febraury 2007.

That sucks
Stephen Harris | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 2:30 am | #

Very disappointing! We need it now!

Sorry to get off topic

Sorry to get off topic but...WTF is THIS CRAP all about?

http://www.news.com.au/ heraldsun...5005961,00.html
Mr. X | 08.17.06 - 9:53 am | #
how big of her. HA. who knew Nicole Kidman was such a moron? not a word of Israels bombings in that piece. im dissapointed to see James Woods signed it. cant say im surprised that Sumner Redstone did.........

The coming on our next show

The coming on our next show section of alan's page has yesterday's show.

C-SPAN is killing me with these homer simpsons they bring on to talk about the war on terror!

and next thing to be enacted

and next thing to be enacted is a law against 9/11 denial. Then we'll all have to go 'underground' and become 'guerillas'....
Greg | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 9:39 am | #
the day they enact that law is the day we win.

Sorry to get off topic

Sorry to get off topic but...WTF is THIS CRAP all about?

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20157470-5005961,00.html

"Sorry to get off topic

"Sorry to get off topic but...WTF is THIS CRAP all about?"

It's about stupid people getting together to talk about stupid things.

I have a request for anyone

I have a request for anyone who gets on the mainstream...

If the topic of the Pentagon comes up, and they do the usual, "You think a missile hit the building, what happened to the passengers?"...

Respond with this...

"Do you want to talk about theory, or do you want to talk about fact? Fact: (insert fact here... ex: Fact: 5 or more Wargames were taking place on the morning of September 11th. 2 of which had to do with the hijacking of airplanes. Only one Wargame was mentioned in the 9/11 Report, and it was a footnote in the back...)

i am just finishing David

i am just finishing David Ray Griffin's new book. Another great book by DRG.

It delves into some heavy cosmology - but comes out the other end with a very valuable call for reflection and ACTION.

It may not be the ideal book to recomment to the unconverted - because it does not present as strong an evidentiary case as his previous books - but - it is a great book to present to so-called 'religious' people who are turning a blind eye towards this movement.

>America Deceived: Homeland

>America Deceived: Homeland Security >Warning: Possession of this novel >may result...

This one is a joke, but it may be what the neocons plan next. Remember what reps. like John McCain said about 9/11 truth, that it would "insult the 9/11 victims". Now combine that with the already passed laws against glorifying terror, and maybe a sufficient republican majority for it, and next thing to be enacted is a law against 9/11 denial. Then we'll all have to go 'underground' and become 'guerillas'....

I would LOVE to hear Alex

I would LOVE to hear Alex Jones vs. Colmes!

Colmes webpage looks like a rouges gallery with pics of Kean, Ghouliani, Hillary, Kerry... http://www.foxnews.com/alancolmesradio/index.html

"Jon Gold If youre reading

"Jon Gold If youre reading this, thanks for the update on the Aug 22 thingy."

No problem.

Can somebody with Professor

Can somebody with Professor Jones' email address send this link to him?

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12089

I don't have his email address at work. Thanks.

Alex Jones is way too strong

Alex Jones is way too strong for Alan Colmes to railroad, this is gonna be great.

Since they have not been

Since they have not been able to ban books outright (yet), my guess is that it's part of the subtitle.

Jon Gold If youre reading

Jon Gold If youre reading this, thanks for the update on the Aug 22 thingy.

Found this on yahoo! while

Found this on yahoo! while searching for book titled "America Deceived", the book in which the homeland security have been desperately attempting to suppress off the internet...

America Deceived: Homeland Security Warning: Possession of this novel may result...

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=america+deceived+book&fr=FP-tab-web-t50...

does anyone know the "Homeland Security Warning" is part of the title or is it an actual warning??

Also off topic: random

Also off topic: random interesting links from digg.com:

Dick Cheney building a secret lair?
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Dick_Cheney_Building_a_Secret_Lair

9/11 Investigator Christopher Bollyn Assaulted by Police
http://digg.com/political_opinion/9_11_Investigator_Christopher_Bollyn_A...

What we know and donÂ’t know about 9/11
http://digg.com/political_opinion/What_we_know_and_don_t_know_about_9_11

Good luck tonight if you're

Good luck tonight if you're on, Alex!

Could this be a smoke signal in this Kristofferson music video?

http://kriskristofferson.com/news/

.. just a little past halfway, there's a quick glimpse of this clip "BBC Footage Mentions Explosion from Below", 2d clip down on this page;
http://www.911podcasts.com/default.php?cat=8&med=0&ord=Name&strt=0&vid=0...

Ok so I'm theorizing, but hmm.

This could go either

This could go either way.

OFF TOPIC - I while back I was linked to a short blog article that detailed all of the terrorist alerts/threat-increaces etc since 9/11 and showed how they all occured within 2 days of some political move by bush co.

Anyone else see it and have a link for me?

My dream is for Nico to

My dream is for Nico to suicide bomb Wing TV. I cant think of much else that would advance that 9/11 truth movement more than that.

That's all he talks about.

That's all he talks about. Over and over and over again. If I spent 100% of my time talking about 1 topic, I would go insane. There's a REASON why Nico does that.

Nico, STFU you paid SHILL.

Nico, STFU you paid SHILL.

The most logical reason is

The most logical reason is that he's a paid disinfo agent.

Any idiot would be able to

Any idiot would be able to see that the bullshit he's promoting is HURTING the movement, and yet, that's the ONLY thing he promotes... over and over and over and over again.

It's NOT rocket science.

If (when) he get himself in

If (when) he get himself in too much hot water, he'll just skip back to Germany.

So let's think about this.

So let's think about this. Nico Haupt spends his time promoting bullshit, and writing deragatory articles about people within the movement.

Again, NOT rocket science.

Maybe some German truthers

Maybe some German truthers can hold him accountable over there. I think they've had enough of propaganda after WWII.

The punk even bashed Dr.

The punk even bashed Dr. Steven Jones & everyone else.

John Albanese aka Anonymous

John Albanese aka Anonymous is running out of Insults. Do you also want to insult the audience of ny911truth.org?

http://www.911tvfakery.net

Thursday, August 17, 2006
Lynn Ertell- 9/11 Video Fakery: A milestone in the emergence of a mass meme (August 17, 2006)

Last Sunday eveningÂ’s meeting of the New York 9/11 truth crowd, held in an old East Village church, might well turn out to be a turning point for the rest of the movement
Maybe even some kind of historic milestone for politics in general. Or for whatever shredded remnant of politics is still left breathing.
Having heard it said more than once that “Politics died on 9/11”...

...Not every generation is fortunate enough to experience the advent of a new entertainment genre. This one should spawn a wealth of critique, parody and exegesis, all focused on the manufactured CGI (computer generated imagery) produced and distributed by the corporate media in the aftermath of 9/11.

...Living and working near the WTC, computer video specialist and 9/11 researcher Nico Haupt (“ewing2001”), directly experienced the trauma of that morning. It altered his life forever, along with some of his fundamental assumptions about human nature, visual experience, memory, gullibility … and the world of Power...

...I thought I might hear more "oohs" and "ahhhs".
Perhaps many in the crowd found the craftsmanship a bit disappointing, transparent and sloppier than one might expect.
Blatant inconsistencies and physical impossibilities.
Multiple contradictory shots of the same alleged event from different angles.

Sometimes there was just numb silence, a predictable audience reaction to the sheer volume and variety of these mutually contradictory video versions available in the media, all purporting to show the “attack” on the South Tower of the WTC.

But the comparison of two mutually contradictory videos of the smoking Towers, showing huge billowing clouds of black smoke moving impossibly in OPPOSITE directions, evoked smirks, gasps and giggles from the audience....

Der holen ist too smallen!

Der holen ist too smallen! All das vidoes ist faken! It wurst cartoonen!

Idiot!

Nico, I take frauds like you

Nico, I take frauds like you MUCH more seriously than Albanese does.

Endless, wild-goose-chase,

Endless, wild-goose-chase, ridiculous bullshit!

"WTF is this crap all

"WTF is this crap all about?"

Google the very last name in the article.

I hope Nico's presentation

I hope Nico's presentation in NYC was comprehensive and thought provoking because his standard web presentation reeks of stupidity and intentional disinformation.

I think Nico isn't that bad

I think Nico isn't that bad for the rest of us. To refute his theory just makes us more believable. We can show the rest of the world, that we are _not_ "conspiracy nuts", believing in bullshit.

I hope that Father Frank

I hope that Father Frank prayed for Nico after that nonsense.

"...Nico, I take frauds like

"...Nico, I take frauds like you MUCH more seriously than Albanese does.
Anonymous | 08.17.0..."

Look at this coward. Still too idiotic with his freudian slip to confirm his identity. Do you still wanna overthrow ny911? Do you think you can run this room with your orwellian nazi mindset?

Christopher Bollyn 911

Christopher Bollyn 911 Investigative Journalist Harassed And Beaten At His Home By Undercover Cops

9/11 NUN'S DYING PLEA:
AUTOPSY MY BODY TO AID WTC
AILING

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/9_11_nuns_dying_plea__autopsy_my...
====

What we know and donÂ’t know about 9/11
Posted in the database on Wednesday, August 16th,
by Paul Craig Roberts

I received a number of intelligent responses from readers of my August 14 column, “Gullible Americans,” The letters deserve a reply. Moreover, some contain important points that should be shared with a wider audience. Pundits such as myself are not the only people who have interesting things to say. Considering the number of letters and the time it would require to respond individually, I am replying instead in this column.
http://lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=6923
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9/11: Possible Motives Of The Bush Administration
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=GRI20051...
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911 Investigative Journalist Harassed And Beaten At His Home By Undercover Cops
by Christopher Bollyn
http://lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=6924
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The UK Terror plot: what's really going on? By Craig Murray 14 Aug 2006 "We then have the extraordinary question of Bush and Blair discussing the possible arrests over the weekend. Why? I think the answer to that is plain. Both in desperate domestic political trouble, they longed for 'Another 9/11'... We then have the appalling political propaganda of John Reid, Home Secretary, making a speech warning us all of the dreadful evil threatening us and complaining that 'Some people don't get' the need to abandon all our traditional liberties... There could be no clearer evidence that our Police are now just a political tool. Like all the best nasty regimes, the knock on the door came in the middle of the night, at 2.30am."

http://www.legitgov.org/

Canadian Muslim leader condemns Bush as fascist, terrorist 12 Aug 2006 A Canadian national Islamic organization is labelling George W. Bush as a root cause of terrorism, calling the U.S. president [sic] and his neo-conservatives as "the biggest fascists, terrorists and extremists." [Well-said!]

http://www.legitgov.org/

Clinton burns Bush --Says no London link to Iraq 16 Aug 2006 Former President Bill Clinton got in the current President's [sic] face yesterday, slamming the Bush administration for linking the London bomb plot and the war on [of] terror to the war in Iraq. "The Republicans should be very careful in trying to play politics with this London airport thing, because they're going to have a hard time with the facts," Clinton said in an interview.

http://www.legitgov.org/

Olbermann Exposes Nexus of Politics And Terror --Details ten clear examples where Bush admin. alerts preceded by damaging revelations (infowars) 15 Aug 2006 During a prime time segment on his MSNBC show ["Countdown"] last night, anchor Keith Olbermann presented ten clear examples where the Bush administration had issued terror alerts days after politically damaging revelations and questioned the credibility of each of the alleged plots' authenticity in light of astounding evidence to the contrary.

http://www.legitgov.org/
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Sarah Olson | Iraq War Vets' Support for Lt. Watada Growing
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081606A.shtml
"Geoffrey Millard is a sergeant in the Army National Guard and has no problem speaking publicly or supporting Lieutenant Watada," writes Sarah Olson. "He says GI resistance is a growing trend. 'American GIs are beginning to respect the Nuremberg principles. They are resisting orders; they are going to jail, going to Canada, and going AWOL. And they're talking about why they're doing it.'"
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VIDEO | Lt. Ehren Watada's Speech: "Soldiers Can Choose to Stop Fighting"
Veterans for Peace Convention - August 12, 2006
A Film by Sari Gelzer
http://www.truthout.org/multimedia.htm
In Seattle for the Veterans for Peace Convention, Lt. Ehren Watada, the first commissioned officer to publicly refuse deployment to Iraq, spoke about what he calls a "change of strategy" for the peace movement. Watada said: "Today, I speak with you about a radical idea.... The idea is this: that to stop an illegal and unjust war, the soldiers can choose to stop fighting it." He received overwhelming support from the crowd, and members of Iraq Veterans Against the War lined the stage in solidarity. His speech came five days before his August 17 pre-trial hearing for refusing deployment to Iraq.
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THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF 9-11 WEBSITES (GOOGLE IT) THAT PROVE THAT THE BUSH/PNAC
ADMINSTRATION PLANNED AND ORCHESTRATED 9-11...HERES A FEW OF THEM

http://st911.org/
http://911blogger.com/
http://www.reopen911.org/
http://www.geocities.com/killtown/
http://www.standdown.net/
http://www.911truth.org/
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911links.html
http://www.tvnewslies.org
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html
http://stopthelie.com/home.html
http://www.911proof.com/
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/

Attention all truckers:

Attention all truckers: http://www.foxnews.com/foxfan/images/usftruck_close_375_300.jpg

How about some 9/11 truth on the backs/sides of those trucks instead?

Do you still wanna overthrow

Do you still wanna overthrow ny911?

Oh no, now Haupt thinks he's in charge of the NY truth movement!

nico, there is a difference

nico,

there is a difference between compelling and probably conclusive proof (controlled demolition, FBI ordering agents to "back off" going after Al Qaeda), and presenting information (tv "fakery") that is unknown and unproven.

Sorry to get off topic

Sorry to get off topic but...WTF is THIS CRAP all about?

http://www.news.com.au/ heraldsun...5005961,00.html
Mr. X | 08.17.06 - 9:53 am | #

This does not surprise me at all. Rupert Murdoch was at her wedding. Seeing Michael Douglas' name told me their connection. Google CFR/Trilateral Commission for an explanation about this. The rabbit is truly very deep.

If someone came in here, and

If someone came in here, and constantly promoted that UFOs were responsible for the 9/11 atrocities, it would have the same effect on the movement as the bullshit that Nico Haupt promotes.

Freedomfighter, nothing is

Freedomfighter,
nothing is "unknown and unproven".

We hold for the record, that John Albanese is insane enough to struggle in his trap.
The same Albanese hooked up in 2004 with Nic Levis to sabotage ny911truth.org the first time. Levis blocked the evidence on controlled demolition.

Apparently John Albanese's latest role is to stir some V for Vendetta victim in this movement to let it look criminal. THAT'S WHY he is "anonymous" and not for any other reasons.

He also just suggested a crime:
"..My dream is for Nico to suicide bomb Wing TV. I cant think of much else that would advance that 9/11 truth movement more than that.
Anonymous | 08.17.06 - 10:33 am..."

"He also just suggested a

"He also just suggested a crime..."

I think it would be easy enough for dz or sbg to tell if Anonymous has the same IP as John Albanese.

If it is found out that he doesn't, it would be yet another example of the lunacy that is Nico Haupt.

All thought crimes ist

All thought crimes ist verboten!

I could see Nico promote

I could see Nico promote that now as, "John Albanese Promotes Crime..."

Und das ist at least 2

Und das ist at least 2 different Anonymous here now!

Der real crime ist en being

Der real crime ist en being "accesory after the fact" in mass muder!

Jon, you are really

Jon, you are really blind.
HE already confirmed by himself that's Albanese by not denying it.

Nien! Ich ben Albanese

Nien! Ich ben Albanese nicht!

Then compare those IPs with

the last post by someone

the last post by someone under the name 'John Albanese' was 55 minutes ago, and that IP address has not been used to post any comments since that comment.

then again, i could be in on all this too i suppose.

sorry nico, but you really do jump way to quickly to conclusions.. you see one piece of loose information, and assume it means X, Y, and Z - when in fact they have nothing to do with each other.

in any event, play nice.

Here is the other

I play nice if 'anonymous'

I play nice if 'anonymous' plays nice and stops his criminal attitude.

I must go spread truth now!

I must go spread truth now! Auf wiedersehen, frau Haupt.

in any event, play nice. dz


in any event, play nice.
dz | Edit comment Delete comment | Email | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 11:14 am | #

this is directed at all you ppl here! :)

oh how i hate these comments, but yet i still feel compelled to check in from time to time..

nico, 911 tv fakery is not

nico,

911 tv fakery is not what you want to lead with when presenting 9/11 evidence to the public. We already have more than enough evidence to convict the criminal elements of the government 10 times over.

911 tv fakery will destroy credibility. It doesn't address amateur video from Brooklyn of the collision into the 1st tower.

"oh how i hate these

"oh how i hate these comments, but yet i still feel compelled to check in from time to time.."

Sorry man.

"Jon, you are really

"Jon, you are really blind.
HE already confirmed by himself that's Albanese by not denying it."

"the last post by someone under the name 'John Albanese' was 55 minutes ago, and that IP address has not been used to post any comments since that comment"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

tvfakery is TOTAL BS.

tvfakery is TOTAL BS.

Gold, your mindset is as

Gold,
your mindset is as rotten as anonymous (11:18)
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/dazinith/115581753546981278/#192572

So you prefer anonymous' Vendetta psyOP instead of simple video analysis?

That just means, that the Vendetta psyOP almost succeeded. Together with propaganda slur from Greta v. Succeren and statements like this:
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=467
you're almost there.

Wasn't it also Gold who suggested to hang everyone who is not on his side?
Gold doesn't realize that he's brainwashed victim perfect for a looney V.

And this looney is walking "door to door"? No wonder that flagwavers have a field day with him and bashing him 24/7. They might call the FBI on him too...

You guys run into a trap, with Jones and co. setting you up on the thermite.

Let's see who will declare the 9/11 Truth Movement as "Al-Quaida" first:
Bush or Clinton?

Before this turns into a political lovefest, let's straighten out the facts again.

Everything what you have vare empty hands. Noone was able to debunk anything. Censorship and Insults is all what the 9/11 truthlings have, followed by aversion techniques like fruitlooping and reset buttons.

And you continue to question and insult also the integrity and intelligence of the following people, who signed the 9/11TV Fakery petitiion PRO paper on our findings:

13 9/11 Scholars HAVE signed.
And here are their names:
Stevan Douglas Looney (Attorney), Ray "Titus" Sanborn (SA), Rick Siegel, Steven E. Jones, Michael Morrissey (University of Kassel, Germany), Brian Duncan (Fire Protection Engineering), Judy Wood, Brian Vernon, Alexander Dent, Brad Mayeux, Veronica Chapman, Andrew Johnson, Rick Rajter.

Rajter will write the paper.
He was also guest at the ny911truth event on Sunday,

Also signed:
9/11 Truth Speakers like 'Candidate' Craig Hill, Ian McFerran (UK 9/11 Truth Movement), Jimmy Walter, Rev H Thorpe Saxton, Lenny Bloom, Dennis Morrisseau (9/11 Truth Candidate), Ralph Charles Whitley, Sr.(decorated American Veteran of One), Thomas J Mattingly (McClendon Group/National Press Club DC) and others.

911 tv fakery is not what

911 tv fakery is not what you want to lead with when presenting 9/11 evidence to the public.

No kidding. We have enough trouble trying to convince people of controlled demolition...and look at all the evidence of CD we have.

Even if Nico is correct, he is doing more harm than good by promoting this crap.

Nico, If I ever get the

Nico,
If I ever get the opportunity I will flatten your punk ass face.

"Wasn't it also Gold who

"Wasn't it also Gold who suggested to hang everyone who is not on his side?"

No. What I said was, "Those who tried to help this Administration get away with murder will be considered accessories after the fact, and will deserve the same punishment as those who performed the act."

Another lie?

C'mon Nico... you just lied

C'mon Nico... you just lied again. Bullshit your way out of it.

MediaPuppet wrote "...No

MediaPuppet wrote
"...No kidding. We have enough trouble trying to convince people of controlled demolition...and look at all the evidence of CD we have.

Even if Nico is correct, he is doing more harm than good by promoting this crap.
MediaPuppet..."

So where is the "harm"?

Do you know that the same deciders who decided against the evidence on controlled demolition (are the same who prepared the propaganda against the evidence on 9/11 TV fakery a long time ago as well???
They used the same meme on CD too:

"...Even if..."

And Controlled Demolition and the 9/11 Truth Movement is THE media overhype right now.
So what happened?

Nothing.

And the final hangout is already in the books, possibly to be spit out right before the anniversary in yiur facce.
And what do you wanna do then??

C'mon Nico. You've been

C'mon Nico. You've been caught in another lie, and I'm waiting for you to bullshit your way out of it.

Why should we believe the

Why should we believe the research of a known liar?

Lie #1: "HE already

Lie #1: "HE already confirmed by himself that's Albanese by not denying it."

Lie #2: "Wasn't it also Gold who suggested to hang everyone who is not on his side?"

C'mon Nico. Bullshit your way out of being a liar.

amatuer videos Nico. explain

amatuer videos Nico. explain them away. they couldnt be "in on it" too could they? you can use your bullshit "the entire media used video fakery" fairy tale because its a non-starter and cant be disproved easily,seeing as nobody trusts the media anyway. now explain away the amatuer footage. it wasnt only abc,cbs and fox that caught footage of the attack. now explain the amatuer footage away. without your corny "you orwellian nazi" bullshit please.

Click Here

Nico Haupt has been

Nico Haupt has been discredited YET AGAIN. If I was dz, I would ban his ass. He is nothing but a lying disinformationist.

get a life gold...

get a life gold...

"get a life gold..." I'd

"get a life gold..."

I'd like to, but unfortunately, lying disinformationists like Nico Haupt, and Internet Shills like you keep fighting the movement, which makes it difficult.

Jon wrote: "...C'mon Nico.

Jon wrote:
"...C'mon Nico. You've been caught in another lie..."

This is not true. You suggested to "hang" me, together with Bush.
Your killer instinct even inspired conspiracysmasher for an article
about similar threats.

Chris wrote:
"...amatuer videos Nico. explain them away. they couldnt be "in on it" too could they?.."

If you're talking about those amateur videos, who included an alleged aircraft,
they all got "seized" and then doctored at Camera Planet.
The rest got confiscated by FBI and FEMA.

And Chris doesn't explain the few unmanipulated amateur clips, who clearly
do NOT show aircraft, though mainstream media showed, from which direction the aircraft should have appear on this footage, but they DIDN'T.

And MediaPuppet, like many others is still not able to confront the argument,
is not able to follow the logical discrepancies and physical violations.

The articles of Morgan Reynolds, Gerard Holmgren and Lynn Ertell show the problem
of this movement. It is NOT able to debunk anything, instead licking the boots of the orwellian elite, silencing the evidence on fakery and no planes.

The audience of ny911 suggested by themselves, that they don't understand, why these findings are oppressed BY THIS MOVEMENT.
They even came to their own conclusion, that the "white elephant plane" might have functioned as a decoy- and distraction plane, but you guys are so far away from it...

"This is not true. You

"This is not true. You suggested to "hang" me, together with Bush.

Exactly, "Those who tried to help this Administration get away with murder will be considered accessories after the fact, and will deserve the same punishment as those who performed the act."

"Your killer instinct even inspired conspiracysmasher for an article
about similar threats."

Of which you were MORE than happy to "jump to my rescue", and give ConspiracySmasher more lies about me.

You're done Nico. You're a lying disinformationist, and you have been outed.

By spreading your lies and

By spreading your lies and disinformation, you are helping this administration get away with murder.

If you're talking about

If you're talking about those amateur videos, who included an alleged aircraft,
they all got "seized" and then doctored at Camera Planet.

seized or submitted? i'd like to see your resource to backup this claim. all these people had their film seized by the government, and then were gagged or killed so they couldn't talk about how a plane was added in? comon.

Talking about no planes or

Talking about no planes or Nico is a WOT. Don't bother with it, it just works to derail the movement.

If you ignore it, it will go away!

Nico, by the lack of

Nico, by the lack of comments on your website postings, I suspect that not too many people are interested in your research? Why is that?

Also, can you explain to me the fireball during the second plane hit? What caused the fireball to also explode outwards in a forward motion? Or the hole shaped like an airplane. Was this all CGI too?

I'm done....sorry Nico,

I'm done....sorry Nico, parks closed!

Jon wrote: "..You're a lying

Jon wrote:
"..You're a lying disinformationist, and you have been outed...By spreading your lies and disinformation, you are helping this administration get away with murder..."

We can do this game all over again:

Where are the lies?
Where is the disinfo?
Where is the debunkery?

And the administration is getting away with murder since 5 years and the mainstreamization of the 9/11 Truth Movement including the evidence on controlled demolition DID NOT CHANGE this either.

Why?
Because U.S. Media was part of 9/11 and they continue to fool you.
Behind them Lockheed, General Electric and Co. If they would see a chance to spin 9/11 TV fakery they would have done it a long time ago but they won't.

And if i would be a shill, i would have an article in WashPost by now.
As a matter of fact, WashPost was twice at ny911truth.org and ALWAYS decided NOT to write about the 9/11 TV fakery findings.

The last editor who decided against it was Michael Powell, New York Bureau Chief of the Washington Post.

they all got "seized" and

they all got "seized" and then doctored at Camera Planet.

source please? did Camera Planet have guys with guns taking peoples video cameras?

Let's summarize

Let's summarize again:

MediaPuppet wrote:
"...can you explain to me the fireball during the second plane hit? What caused the fireball to also explode outwards in a forward motion? Or the hole shaped like an airplane. Was this all CGI too?.."

The fireballl was real, same to the hole. Both done by internal explosives, which is part of the research on forensic evidence, NOT evidence on 9/11 TV Fakery.

MediaPuppet furthermore wrote:
"...I'm done....sorry Nico, parks closed!..."

...and chickens out from the argument, like everyone else, who is deceived by the leadership of this movement.

Kevin wrote:
"...it just works to derail the movement..."

Another fruitloop.
The meme on damage or derailing was also used for 4 years against the evidence on controlled evidence.

Coward Anonympus wrote:
"...they all got "seized" and then doctored at Camera Planet.

source please? ..."

The owner of Camera Planet confirms on his website, that he was walking around to get EVERY single footage.

That is basically like seizing. They started then to work with the NY TIMES. Camera Planet gets meanwhile money from Bank of America after they threatened the 9/11 media perps to sell their unedited footage.

http://911tvfakery.net/
The 500 Hours of 9/11
http://tinywww.com/MjY1Ng (nytimes.com)
see also
http://www.cameraplanet.com/

"...Those images, captured largely by amateurs, are moments from more than 500 hours of videos and films, the largest collection of raw visual data from what historians say is the best-documented catastrophe in history. About 1,700 clips from the collection have attracted more than a million hits in the three months since they were put on Google Video.

The 7,000-gigabyte archive was assembled by Steven Rosenbaum, a Manhattan-based documentary producer. In the days after the terrorist attacks, he put up posters and fliers and placed an ad in The Village Voice urgently requesting images that captured the attack, its aftermath and the mood of the city...."

But still no alarm flag for the 9/11 truthlings.

we are the media - stick to

we are the media - stick to the science.

WTC7 is all we need!

Where are the lies? Lie #1:

Where are the lies?

Lie #1: "HE already confirmed by himself that's Albanese by not denying it."

Lie #2: "Wasn't it also Gold who suggested to hang everyone who is not on his side?"

Where is the disinfo?

I'm talking to it.

I love the fact that Nico

I love the fact that Nico Haupt used 911ConspiracySmasher as his source to say that I want to hang everyone who disagrees with me.

Our OBVIOUS enemy, and he sources them.

You are too much Nico. Too much stinky smelly shit.

Jon, anonymous DID NOT deny

Jon,

anonymous DID NOT deny it.
And you said, that you wanted to hang me.

No lies.

I am using

I am using "911ConspiracySmasher" as a source to make the point, that flagwavers do turn statements like that of Gold against this movement, while he claims, that this movement is endangered by video analysis.

"Jon, anonymous DID NOT deny

"Jon,

anonymous DID NOT deny it.
And you said, that you wanted to hang me.

No lies."

You're a disinformationist, and an idiot. DZ CONFIRMED that Anonymous WAS NOT John Albanese even though described him as, "John Albanese aka Anonymous".

I said I wanted YOU to hang for treason. Not EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME.

You are bad liar.

"I am using

"I am using "911ConspiracySmasher" as a source to make the point, that flagwavers do turn statements like that of Gold against this movement, while he claims, that this movement is endangered by video analysis."

Wait a second... didn't I just prove to you that you're hurting the movement?

When I was handing out flyers last weekend, someone said to me in a condascending way, "You're the guys that say no planes hit the towers right?"

a great example of Nico's

a great example of Nico's idiotic logic:

he put up posters and fliers and placed an ad in The Village Voice urgently requesting images that captured the attack, its aftermath and the mood of the city...."

to Nico means:
they all got "seized" and then doctored at Camera Planet.

the tapes weren't seized, they were given to him. the camera planet footage is a wealth of footage that i am glad we have, and was a worthwhile project for someone to put together. what you can't seem to comprehend is that the owners most likely made copies for themselves to keep, and most assuredly would have said something if they noticed their footage was modified.

just for good measure, here is another example of Nico's 'research':

'i posted about tvfakery on such and such a forum, and nobody could challenge my analysis because it is incontroverable'

reality:

noone challenges your 'analysis' because they look at your 'evidence' and think only a moron would come to the solution that you have.

but, since i have your attention.. please explain how the footage you show in this post on your blog proves absolutely anything regarding the second impact:
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/2006/08/another-amateur-footage-shows-no...

you claim it shows no 2nd plane, but yet don't mention the fact that the camera wasn't even rolling when the 2nd impact occured. this is blatant disinformation, and all of your work reaks of it.

"...I said I wanted YOU to

"...I said I wanted YOU to hang for treason..."

You see? Finally you confirm it.
So where are the lies?

And dz DID NOT confirm, where the second IP was comingfrom.

And why is it that Jon Gold still does not to stick to the issue?
Where are the lies, disinfo and debunkery regarding the findings on 9/11 TV fakery??

This IS video analysis. You distract with any other points to esscape from the argument.
We WILL release the paper on the findings at st911.org this month and then the audience can decide, NOT Jonathan Gold, Chris and Co...

Why don't you complete the

Why don't you complete the quote Nico, and show the lie?

"I said I wanted YOU to hang for treason. Not EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME."

You're fucking scum Nico,

You're fucking scum Nico, and I hope someone kicks your ass.

I'm done with you. Feel

I'm done with you. Feel free to use the quote, "and I hope someone kicks your ass" in the future. Maybe someone will take me up on that.

I'll be glad when the new

I'll be glad when the new version of 911blogger is released and we can put a stop to this nonsense.

Maybe then we'll see some activism, for those of us who have forgotten what activism looks like, check out this thread:

http://www.911blogger.com/2006/08/alex-jones-call-to-action.html

Have fun playing your games, when the next attack comes, you all may wish you had done something about it when you had the chance.

Jon wrote: "...You're

Jon wrote:
"...You're fucking scum Nico, and I hope someone kicks your ass..."

Which proves, that Jon is the aggressive troll he always was.

I only talk with anonymous,

I only talk with anonymous, if he reveals his real name.

"Which proves, that Jon is

"Which proves, that Jon is the aggressive troll he always was."

You used it... as I knew you would. ;)

i'd rather stay anonymous

i'd rather stay anonymous but i would like a response:
but, since i have your attention.. please explain how the footage you show in this post on your blog proves absolutely anything regarding the second impact:
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/...s-no- plane.html

you claim it shows no 2nd plane, but yet don't mention the fact that the camera wasn't even rolling when the 2nd impact occured. this is blatant disinformation, and all of your work reaks of it.

"you all may wish you had

"you all may wish you had done something about it when you had the chance"

I KNOW you're not talking to me.

I'd like to, but

I'd like to, but unfortunately, lying disinformationists like Nico Haupt, and Internet Shills like you keep fighting the movement, which makes it difficult.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 12:22 pm | #

HAHAHAH!!!! ya, im a shill and youre doing such a good job..... right...

i dont think that the truth war is being faught on the internet unlike you....

"HAHAHAH!!!! ya, im a shill

"HAHAHAH!!!! ya, im a shill and youre doing such a good job..... right...

i dont think that the truth war is being faught on the internet unlike you...."

I think SBG just said something to you.

You're fucking scum Nico,

You're fucking scum Nico, and I hope someone kicks your ass.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 1:04 pm | #

there in so need for this shit gold... wtf?? grow up...

"there in no need for this

"there in no need for this shit gold... wtf?? grow up..."

Awwww... did I offend your hero Nico? I'm terribly sorry.

Uh, is getting ridiculous.

Uh, is getting ridiculous.

Nico, you did some good early investigating and you're cited by people like Web Tarpley for his early 9/11 truth work. But I think you've slipped too far down the rabbit hole. I almost did too, I'll admit. But in looking at all the evidence, I believe this tv fakery/no planes avenue is a psychological trap to ensnare people whose minds are in a state of shock & awe over the audacity and horror of the 9/11 crime. The video of the "white plane" looks fake to me. I have no reason to think it's not part of a disinfo trap meant to discredit 9/11 truth.

I want to give Nico props for his early research, but Nico I think you should move on to other avenues of research. You are damaging your credibility and the credibility of the 9/11 movement in general. I mean come on: "these findings are oppressed by this movement." Ever wonder why you and a few others stand alone on CGI and blue screens? And calling people "truthlings" with an air of superiority, as if you are a master Jedi and everyone else is a flailing apprentice, does nothing for your believability.

How about turning your investigative powers to finding and following evidence to the criminals? You're in NYC, right? If I were in NYC, I would be digging through city and state files and making public records requests to find out the following: What company was in charge of security at the WTC towers before and during 9/11, and who were all of the employees? Who was on duty from the Port Authority in the month prior to and on 9/11? Was a permit issued for the "cable work" being done in the twin towers that necessitated the power downs? If so, who or what company was the permit issued to? If not, shouldn't there have been one? What company was doing the "cable work" in the twin towers that caused the power downs, and what were the names of every employee in that company? What were the names of those who accessed the twin towers for that work? They must've had at least temporary security badges - are their photos on file? Who admitted them to the buildings? Can you compile a witness list and full statements from all those who saw the people doing this work?

This is just a start Nico. I'm sure you and all the other 9/11 truthers in NYC could start with those questions and dig up solid information and seek out those who actually took part in the 9/11 crime. When you do that the criminals may feel the pressure, and when that happens it's likely the rats will start jumping the ship.

Will it be comfortable work? No, of course not. Sitting in front of the computer and video screens and scrutinizing footage is pretty easy. You'll have to get outside and talk to people, sift through paperwork. But doing leg work and digging up evidence - as Steven Jones has done - takes courage, persistence, and integrity. It's how Eliott Ness got Al Copone, it's how Iran-Contra was revealed.

We know three buildings came down on 9/11 with explosives. Let's find those responsible for carrying out the crime, and that'll enable us to work our way up the conspiracy.

Hey inside. Kiss my ass.

Hey inside. Kiss my ass.

I think SBG just said

I think SBG just said something to you.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 1:20 pm | #

no retard that was to you... look at how much time i spend posting here and look at how much time you spend posting here...

you seem to think that every post that you make here is doing some good... HAHAHAH!!!!

"..."you all may wish you

"..."you all may wish you had done something about it when you had the chance".."

I'm doing the same- SINCE 5 years!
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/911bio.html

And the biggest opponents against all evidence were always sitting WITHIN THIS MOVEMENT and that includes also the saboteurs from 911truth.org against the evidence on controlled demolition.

You can also ask the audience at ny911truth.org how Nic Levis, John Albanese and co. rallied against the evidence on the same matter as well.

And i successfully debunked the shady background of Karl Schwarz and Mike Ruppert. If they would still run the show, no CD either. Same to hangouter Kyle Hence.

I ask again, where is the damage, where is the derailment, where is the disinfo, where is the debunkery on the 9/11 TV Fakery? Where are the lies?

5-6 amateur clips without aircraft are around, even if one frame jumps, there wasn't enough time to squeeze in a real plane.

The US Cable LIVE footage if FOX5 contradicts the footage of ABC7.

For those, who have problems with perspective or the positions of the TwinTowers, here are even much simpler facts:

These screenshots show the absurdity of the media hoax, as seen by opposite direction of the smoke, but truthling sheeple is not addressing it:

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/cartoon_images/911CNN_clipforUN93.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3465/lcfoxgatefootage29bw.jpg

"no retard that was to

"no retard that was to you... look at how much time i spend posting here and look at how much time you spend posting here...

you seem to think that every post that you make here is doing some good... HAHAHAH!!!!"

No. Never every post. You seem to think that Nico is someone who deserves respect. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree with you, and I am proud of it.

Awwww... did I offend your

Awwww... did I offend your hero Nico? I'm terribly sorry.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 1:23 pm | #

i dont understand how people cant see what a fucking retard you are...

i think nico is a fucking moron but i dont feel the need to attack him... i dont know anyone that buys his shit so i dont really care...

go ahead and say that you want people to die or get their ass kicked because it males you look really good.... moron

please explain how the

please explain how the footage you show in this post on your blog proves absolutely anything regarding the second impact:
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/...s-no- plane.html

you claim it shows no 2nd plane, but yet don't mention the fact that the camera wasn't even rolling when the 2nd impact occured. this is blatant disinformation, and all of your work reaks of it.

what, no response? is it because you know that you were dishonest in your assertion about this video?

These screenshots show the absurdity of the media hoax, as seen by opposite direction of the smoke, but truthling sheeple is not addressing it:

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/ c...clipforUN93.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/ img3...footage29bw.jpg

ill address your images, how about answer my question above eh?

first photo shows dark colored smoke coming off the back of the tower drifting away from the camera and to the left. also shows light colored smoke coming from the front of the tower clinging close to the tower then going around the side of the building in the same direction as the black smoke.

second photo also shows same black smoke going back and to the left as in the first photo, but from a side angle. both photos appear to show the same thing, just one from the front, the other from the side.

unfortunately i know you see what you want to, so anything short of me building a WTC replica and setting it on fire while doing 360 panoramas would prove you otherwise.

No. Never every post. You

No. Never every post. You seem to think that Nico is someone who deserves respect. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree with you, and I am proud of it.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 1:26 pm | #

show me where i have ever shown any respect to nico??? if you cant then youre a liar!!! HAHHAHA!!!!

stop acting like a fucking baby... you know that you are...

so it is clear to everyone, i dont like nico in the least and think he is a wackjob...

gold, if nico is such a

gold, if nico is such a problem then why hasnt he been banned???? you act like he is the end of the world.. lol...

"go ahead and say that you

"go ahead and say that you want people to die or get their ass kicked because it makes you look really good.... moron"

I don't want people to die. As a matter of fact, I'm sick of the death in this world brought on by this Administration. I DO want to see, however, the people responsible for 9/11 hang. And all of the people who consciously helped them. I know I can't be the only one.

As far as Nico getting his ass kicked, you think I'm the first one to suggest that? Do you think there might be a reason for that? Do you think it might have to do with the fact that he hurts the movement with his bullshit theories, and deragatory articles written about members of the movement? Do you think it might be because those of us who actually WANT this movement to succeed get frustrated by people like Nico?

I think I'm done with this Nico induced argument.

I'm doing the same- SINCE 5

I'm doing the same- SINCE 5 years!

Good, then you must know by now that these sorts of arguments never seem to resolve anything, at least not that I have seen. You mentioned up above that you will be releasing a paper at st911.org this month and the audience can decide.

I assume this paper will have your most compelling and damning evidence. I guess then we can all examine it and decide for ourselves, and maybe the daily drive by postings on this topic by several posters can stop.

I believe the majority of activists can come to a logical conclusion when provided with compelling evidence. This is supported by the fact that controlled demolition is accepted by, (wild guess here), 80-90% of activists. And this is all despite the efforts you mention of several people and/or organizations that have worked to distract people from this topic.

So, feel free to send me your paper when its ready and I will gladly post it. Hopefully everyone can give it an honest review, and they can make their decisions based on your strongest evidence.

Until then, everyone here can all agree to disagree, and the name calling, accusations, and threats can end.

Jon wrote: "...I think I'm

Jon wrote:
"...I think I'm done with this Nico induced argument..."

You never addressed the main argument.
The findings on 9/11 TV Fakery.
I gave another simple example on the smoke contradiction, but zero response as usual.

And what about the following voices?
They all support the findings and THEY CAN THINK. You want to silence them too?

13 9/11 Scholars HAVE signed the 9/11 TV Fakery petition.
And here are their names:
Stevan Douglas Looney (Attorney), Ray "Titus" Sanborn (SA), Rick Siegel, Steven E. Jones, Michael Morrissey (University of Kassel, Germany), Brian Duncan (Fire Protection Engineering), Judy Wood, Brian Vernon, Alexander Dent, Brad Mayeux, Veronica Chapman, Andrew Johnson, Rick Rajter.

Rajter will write the paper.
He was also guest at the ny911truth event on Sunday.

Also signed:
9/11 Truth Speakers like 'Candidate' Craig Hill, Ian McFerran (UK 9/11 Truth Movement), Jimmy Walter, Rev H Thorpe Saxton, Lenny Bloom, Dennis Morrisseau (9/11 Truth Candidate), Ralph Charles Whitley, Sr.(decorated American Veteran of One), Thomas J Mattingly (McClendon Group/National Press Club DC) and others.

plus:
http://911stealth.blogspot.com/
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/
http://perpetualynquisitive.blogspot.com/
http://www.911review.org
http://www.total411.info/2006/07/911-scholars-spat-over-tv-fakery.html
http://911truth.wetpaint.com/
http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html
http://911cgiwatch.blogspot.com/
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/rrr3.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren01.htm
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=we_have_holes
http://www.fooledagainon911.com
http://www.archive.org/details/911-Chronology-Source
http://www.archive.org/details/911-Chronology-Source
http://www.911hoax.com/
http://www.911foreknowledge.com/
http://www.911closeup.com/index.shtml?ID=71
http://webfairy.org/2hit/
http://missilegate.com
http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/ggua175
http://thewebfairy.com/911
http://www.911chronology.com
http://reopen911.org/

Somebigguy wrote: "...So,

Somebigguy wrote:
"...So, feel free to send me your paper when its ready and I will gladly post it. Hopefully everyone can give it an honest review, and they can make their decisions based on your strongest evidence.

Until then, everyone here can all agree to disagree, and the name calling, accusations, and threats can end.
somebigguy | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 1:53 pm..."

Fair deal. Keep it in mind.

Seems that Alex Jones will

Seems that Alex Jones will indeed probably be on the Alan Colmes show tonight... HELL YEAH!

"THURSDAY: The mega-selling author of The Purpose Driven Life

Can Rick Warren's message change the world? Alan will talk with America's most influential spiritual leader.

Plus: Porn star Mary Carey is off and running for governor. She'll visit Alan from the campaign trail.

And: A prominent conspiracy theorist says we'll soon see massive -- but staged -- terror attacks. Can his claims be believed?"

http://foxnews.com/alancolmesradio/index.html

Nico, I gave another simple

Nico,

I gave another simple example on the smoke contradiction, but zero response as usual.

yet another blatant peice of misinformation.. along with this which you also ignored:

please explain how the footage you show in this post on your blog proves absolutely anything regarding the second impact:
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/...s-no- plane.html

you claim it shows no 2nd plane, but yet don't mention the fact that the camera wasn't even rolling when the 2nd impact occured.

straight up disinformation. i dont know if it is intentional, but you are very good at twisting anything into whatever you want it to be regardless of any real critical thinking.

incase you missed my

incase you missed my response:
ill address your images, how about answer my question above eh?

first photo shows dark colored smoke coming off the back of the tower drifting away from the camera and to the left. also shows light colored smoke coming from the front of the tower clinging close to the tower then going around the side of the building in the same direction as the black smoke.

second photo also shows same black smoke going back and to the left as in the first photo, but from a side angle. both photos appear to show the same thing, just one from the front, the other from the side.

unfortunately i know you see what you want to, so anything short of me building a WTC replica and setting it on fire while doing 360 panoramas would prove you otherwise.

Fair deal. Keep it in

Fair deal. Keep it in mind.

Thanks Nico...

Regarding the Scholars who

Regarding the Scholars who have signed a petition calling for a peer-reviewed paper to examine "tv-fakery":

You can't possibly be assuming that they AGREE with you, can you, Nico?

They want a scientific examination of the "tv-fakery" hypothesis, including an attempt to reconcile it with data such as the OSCILLATION of the buildings after they were plowed into by pretend planes. Explosions would not make the buildings rock back and forth.

They want this examination so that if the theory is complete and utter bullshit, you will STFU.

Here, let me save you some time:

"I am an orwellian (sic) truthling."
"This is an example of my sillyness (sic)."
"My limited intellect cannot grasp the complex majesty of 'tv fakery'"

Sean Hannity doesnt have the

Sean Hannity doesnt have the balls. he will NEVER , mark my words, NEVER go head to head with Alex Jones.

Barrett made Hannity look

Barrett made Hannity look like a fool, even to the average Fox viewer he probably looked weaker than usual. imagine what Alex Jones would make him look like.

"The ad was also signed by

"The ad was also signed by celebrities including Michael Douglas, Dennis Hopper, Sylvester Stallone, Bruce Willis, Danny De Vito, Don Johnson, William Hurt and Ridley Scott plus News Corporation chairman and chief executive Rupert Murdoch and Paramount Pictures chairman Sumner Redstone"

Goddamn limousine liberals. When the crash comes I hope these pampered stars get put to work cleaing toilets.

Sad to see William Hurt and Devito on that list; I enjoy some of Ridley's films but Black Hawk Down was nothing but racist propaganda, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

People sometimes forget that these Hollywood characters, however seemingly progressive they appear, get invited to all the wrong places --they drink wine and eat caviar with princes, presidents and CEO's.

Dennis Hopper and Bruce

Dennis Hopper and Bruce Willis(not to mention Murdoch and Redstone) would be pissed to know you called them liberals........

Okay, again i try to check

Okay, again i try to check in to see what is new and it is the same crap:fighting! What a waste of everyone's precious time!

People, please ignore the instigators.

It is too time consuming to scroll down thru all this shit to find a few good comments by people that are actually using the comment box for reasons intended.

You guys are falling into

You guys are falling into Nico's trap.
This is what he wants, to derail the truth movement and get everyone arguing. Ignore it, and it will go away.

"Dennis Hopper and Bruce

"Dennis Hopper and Bruce Willis(not to mention Murdoch and Redstone) would be pissed to know you called them liberals........"

Fair enough. This whole "liberal"/"conservative" dichotomy is pretty silly anyway. Most modern-day "conservatives" are actually fascist radicals, and a good portion of "liberals" too. The original "liberals" (including Adam Smith) would be horrified at the idea of wage-slavery, let alone Wall Mart.

the Hollywood stars who signed that letter should be ashamed of themselves. It's roughly akin to Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne signing a letter of rebuke to the resitance in Nazi Occupied France. Sure, none of us support terrorism, but if that's true we should be doubly outraged over the state terror of Israel and other imperial powers, who engage in the this tactic on a massive scale. Imagine, sitting there in your diamond-encrusted chair barking orders at your personal chef and then having the nerve to cast aspersions at dirt poor people defending their homeland from Israeli aggression. Appalling.

Fair deal. Keep it in

Fair deal. Keep it in mind.

Thanks Nico...
somebigguy | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 2:10 pm | #

Dude are you serious?

I'd like to see Webster

I'd like to see Webster Tarpley go on Fox hunting.

I wouldn't expect much from

I wouldn't expect much from Alex on H&C. He habitually ruins television appearances by looking and sounding completely crazy.

As for this article [

As for this article [ http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20157470-5005961,00.html ]

There's a good chance that Nicole Kidman is a mind control victim. And there's a good chance the Micheal Douglas is a mind control victim handler. I'm not surprised to see their names together.

*Elite/Illuminati NWO mind

*Elite/Illuminati NWO mind control, with direct connections to Bush Sr., Cheney, the CIA etc.

Then look at Sumner Redstones involvement; the majority owner of the movie house which has the [illuminati] rising sun (stars) behind the pyramid (mountain peak) [ http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movieco/paramount.jpg ]

It's like with super-strongly suspected mind control victim Britney Spears; I'm never surprised when she shows up on television somewhere in support of Bush and his administration. Like on an episode of the television show Will & Grace in 2005 or 2006, when she did an appearance and said that "anyone who questions the President is a traitor". She's been controlled to do so.

Nicole Kidman, controlled to do so. Kidman just married another suspected mind control victim country musician. The country music industry is the main place to find mind control victims.

Michael Douglas, handler, possibly the one doing the controlling of Kidman for this.

If you don't know anything about CIA/NWO/Illuminati mind control, and haven't done any investigation into it, you'll think my post is absolute nonsense. Especially since I'm not linking any evidence in the comment. That's fine. I know that I'm not explaing as thoroughly as needs be. But I'm tired, sitting here brushing my teeth. lol

I'm not surprised to see people I suspect of being mind control victims and handlers supporting the Bush administration line, while condemning the opposite of Hamas and Hezbollah.

- Ø®£Z -, sounds

- Ø®£Z -, sounds interesting, you should drop some links.

Lots of name-calling in this

Lots of name-calling in this thread.

OK. Yes, I signed Nico's petition. The reason I did so is because no 7X7s hit the Towers.

It was all TV Fakery.

And, what is more, if YOU don't look at that evidence (primarily forensic, but the available undoctored videos confirm), then YOU are the accessory after the fact.

And the reaction YOU give, Mr. Gold - IS PRECISELY THE ONE THAT THE PERPS WANT TO ACHIEVE. In fact, they must be counting on it in order to save their measly skins.

Okay. There are many things

Okay. There are many things that I could show. Sadly, however, many of the supporting things that I've seen, are things that I don't have access to. i.e. things in movies and television programs.

With that said, there is a lot of information. But don't expect a direct and complete understanding immediately. This takes research, investigation, intelligence and an open mind.

To begin, watch these videos of Cathy O'Brien. The first, "The Most Dangerous Game", was done by Stephen Marshall of Guerrilla News Network in 2000. It was originally supposed to be a prime time presentation for a major televison network. According to a conversation that I had with Stephen Marshall, during the gyno exam of Cathy's vaginal mutilation, the woman taking the photographs is from the major television network. And that was to be one of the major focal points of validation. This is only the trailer. The presentation was cancelled, obviously because it was real and way too serious for anyone of the major networks to present. So the whole feature wasn't ever completed. Sadly.

I first saw this is 2003 or 2004. In late 2004 when GNN changed from GNN V.1 to GNN Beta, this video was no longer available on the GNN website. Thankfully a website called YouTube exists lol

From 2000

GNN's "The Most Dangerous Game" (trailer)
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVY1_w99XwA ] Pay attention to the quote by the guy in the silhouette "If you choose to take a deep look at it and do your own research, fine, you'll find out for yourself." That couldn't be closer to the truth. Before I saw anything about Mind Control when watching this in late 2003 or early 2004, I had absolutely no idea that any of this even existed. Since then, I have seen so many things!, in so many places, involving so many people -- who're mostly grouped together with other suspicious people, or people suspected of being victims or handlers that absolutely reinforces and supports this mind control stuff as being real. But like I wrote "many of the supporting things that I've seen, are things that I don't have access to". Either things on televsion where I don't have any way to record and upload it to my computer. Or things in movies, that I didn't have any way to record. Of course, lots of things are not in movies and television. But I'll explain that later.

GNN's "The Most Dangerous Game" Student Forum at Berkley
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKnFoB87iQg ]

GNN's Cathy O'Brien interview
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKnFoB87iQg ]

From 1996

Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips presentation
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYtXwoTw4hc ]

During her high level Whitehouse sex slave period, she named VP Cheney as her main, primary abuser.

To read some excerpts from Trance Formation of America

[ http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/02/280183.shtml ]

To read about Disney involvement, which will help you understand the strong suspicion about Britney Spears, scroll down to

ONE OF THE GREATEST DECEPTIONS OF ALL TIME: DISNEY

INTRODUCTION

[ http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_disney_bloodlinept1.htm ]

As for Britney Spears, take a look at this quick interesting tidbit.

The cover of the book that the above Disney info is from, is called "Bloodlines of the Illuminati". Here's the cover [ http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9451/bloodlinesoftheilluminaticoverpa... ]. Britney's husband, Kevin Federline, after they got married in 2005, got a tattoo of pyramids with a rising sun, and a strange face looking thing with gold wings, not too different from the wings on the cover of the mid-90's book Bloodline of the Illuminati [ http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2269/kevinfederlinetattoopyramidandrisi... ]. Out of millions of different things he could have got for a tattoo, he gets that. Maybe on reason, is that it's something involving programming, letting Britney know that she is owned, even in this "marriage". When you start seeing more connections between, Britney/Disney/Mind Control (and don't forget her unrelenting support of the Bush and -- mind control victim abuser -- Cheney admin), that tattoo will strike you as very suspicious. I strongly suspect that Kevin Federline is her handler, in an arranged marriage, and one of his main purposes is to impregnate her (as he did) so that Britney's babies can be put into the mind control program also. When I look at Kevin Federline eyes, like in that pic, I see an evil fake. He may be a mind control victim himself. I don't know. I haven't seen anything to support it. But either way, I have absolutely no doubt that he functions as Britney's handler/abuser, in an arranged marriage, making babies to be used in mind control programs. I'll explain more later.

I must also say, that I haven't ever really tried to thoroughly explain this to anyone. So if my presentation style is kind of sloppy or whatever, that could help explain it. Although, I have explained this stuff to some family members, but it seems as if they're not able to actually listen and pay attention. Although, recently they're starting to see more and more that I'm not just talking crazy, as I keep pointing out lots of things that I see that are too suspicious or obvious. To which they have no rebuttle, and have no argument against. So their forced to concede that it's too suspicious or obvious. I'll explain that later. First you need to start with these basics above. Watch those videos. Read those excerpts from Trance Formation of America, and the Disney chapter. Then if you're still interested, ask me more. Then I'll try and explain more indepth about various things that I've seen that reinforce and support this. Although, a lot of the things from movies and televsion shows, I don't have to present. Only the memory of what I saw. And remember, the book Trance Formation of America was first published in the early-mid 90's.

there are many ways to get

there are many ways to get what you want

i use the best
i use the rest

i use the enemy
i use anarchy

---britney spears

- Ø®£Z -, sounds

- Ø®£Z -, sounds interesting, you should drop some links.
Chris | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 4:22 pm | #
Chris,

Here is a link with lots of information including videos. If you get around to doing any research on the Illuminati and the Federal Reserve, you will see why most of our pleas to the media are being ignored.

http://www.freepressinternational.com/

thanks for the links Donna

thanks for the links Donna and - Ø®£Z - , ive done a tiny bit of research into the so called Illuminati, but not much. its pretty heady stuff. once i start reading about it i feel like im being sucked into a black hole,hahaha. if that makes any sense. sorry, im tired, haha.

"Sorry to get off topic..but

"Sorry to get off topic..but WTF is this all about"

The list of supporting celebrities in the earliest post contained the name Haim Saban, right at the end. It has since been removed. Google that dude.Or read this:
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/germany/haimsaban.htm

I'm glad that the topic of

I'm glad that the topic of CIA/MKULTRA/Project Monarch-style mind control is being brought up... I think this is one of the big pieces of the puzzle that is needed to truly understand the nature of those criminal organizations who were behind 9/11... Those who are orchestrating the so-called "New World Order". I also highly recommend Cathy O'Brien's book "Trance Formation of America", which was mentioned earlier in this thread. There are some really interesting stories in there about Bush Sr. and Cheney, Cheney raping her, etc.

Here's her official site, and a PDF copy of Trance Formation of America. Enjoy.

http://trance-formation.com/
http://www.filefactory.com/file/715438/

What time does the show

What time does the show start? Im trying to figure out what time it would be here in Norway.
3 hours from now or so?

"http://www.filefactory.com/f

"http://www.filefactory.com/file/715438/
Anonymous | 08.17.06 - 6:34 pm | # "

I hadn't read the entire book before, only many excerpts at a few different websites, so

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANONYMOUS!

I'm glad that the topic of

I'm glad that the topic of CIA/MKULTRA/Project Monarch-style mind control is being brought up... I think this is one of the big pieces of the puzzle that is needed to truly understand the nature of those criminal organizations who were behind 9/11...

I totally agree. With all the fantastic research I see everyone has done here, I am quite surprised there is only occasional mention of the shadow government.

I also highly recommend

I also highly recommend reading the "Transcript of a lecture given by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien" at that link... http://archive.tc/?x=69

Video of the lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7850559484065398098

Come to think of it, wasn't

Come to think of it, wasn't Don Johnson (who, bizarrely, is also a signatuer) caught in Germany a few years ago with a few billion in barabonds? And then the story just sort of vanished? hmmm...

"http://archive.tc/?x=69

"http://archive.tc/?x=69
Anonymous | 08.17.06 - 7:03 pm | #"

Read that transcript before -- or a similar one -- at a different website in 2004. The video at Google is the same one that I posted in the above comment to Chris, that is hosted at YouTube.

Did you scan the Trance Formation pdf file? or did you find it from someone else? If you scanned it, and if you have access to the book and a scanner, could you scan a higher-resolution set of the pictures and documents etc. in Mark Phillips intro -- they're difficult to see.

And do you know of anywhere online to locate -- for free -- Brice Taylor's book "Thanks For The Memories" [ http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0966891627.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg ]. That's another one that I'd like to read.

It's your lucky day -- I

It's your lucky day -- I actually have Brice Taylor's book right here on my hard drive... Haven't read it yet though. Here it is, uploaded, fresh out of the oven:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc92c8/

As for the Trance Formation of America PDF file, I actually don't remember where I got it from, I think it was from an online message board, not sure though. Unfortunately, I don't have a hard copy of it either.

anybody know of a different

anybody know of a different way of listening to the colmes show, besides the fox site? I can't get audio from it

Damn... I missed it, anybody

Damn... I missed it, anybody with a recording?

"It's your lucky day -- I

"It's your lucky day -- I actually have Brice Taylor's book right here on my hard drive... Haven't read it yet though. Here it is, uploaded, fresh out of the oven:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc92c8/

Anonymous | 08.17.06 - 8:24 pm | #"

I don't know which Anonymous you are, but you're awesome for this!

THANK YOU, ANONYMOUS!

IT's ON

IT's ON

Is anyone else listening?

Is anyone else listening? Call in, call in!

Alex just said Osama is

Alex just said Osama is likely dead. Although Alan is doing a pretty fair interview, it seems like he is just trying to get some shocking statements/predictions out of Alex instead of the critical information that everyone needs to be aware of.

I think at this point, lots

I think at this point, lots of people are getting frightened and even insiders want to stop the train before it goes off the bridge.

fingers are crossed

Wow, just wow. Best.

Wow, just wow.

Best. Interview. Ever.

Interesting. One of the

Interesting. One of the small pictures on the cover of Brice's book is of Sylvester Stallone. I don't know if he's there as a victim or a victimizer. But he's grouped with Michael Jackson, Barbara Streisand and Elvis Presley -- 3 people who I've read previously are strongly suspected of being mind control victims -- so I would guess as a victim.

In the article [ http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20157470-5005961,00.html ] which spawned this whole conversation/exchange of information about mind control -- after I made the comment about Nicole Kidman possibly being a mind control victim, and Michael Douglas possibly being a mind control victim handler -- Sylvester Stallone is one of the few select people named as being with that same group as Michael Douglas and Nicole Kidman in the news article. Connections, connections, connections. They always pop up within groups of select people who are suspicious or suspected mind control victims or handlers. You would be amazed how many suspicious things that I've seen since I first started reading about mind control.

One quick example of connections:

- On the cover of Brice's book [ http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5718/frontcoverbk9.jpg ] Sylvester Stallone is grouped with Barbara Streisand.

- In the movie The In-Laws from 2003 [ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0314786/ ] Michael Douglas' character is an undercover CIA agent. At one point in the movie -- after abducting this guy [ http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0314786/Ss/0314786/C19-E.jpg?path=gallery... ] to take him overseas for some reason (can't remember exactly why) -- the guy who has a fear of flying wakes up, after realizing he's on a plane and after some dialogue, Michael Douglas' character says (paraphrasing) "yea, it's Barbara Streisand's private plane, I borrowed it from her". That picture of him on the phone is from the lavatory in Barbara Streisand's private plane, like a minute after the Barbara Streisand comment, when he's trying to call his family to help him.

So, you have the Barbara Streisand comment in the movie The In-Laws by Micheal Douglas' CIA agent character; you have Michael Douglas with the same group as Sylvester Stallone in the news article primarily about Nicole Kidman; you have Sylvester Stallone on Brice Taylor's mind control cover grouped with a purported mind contol slave, Barbara Streisand. Connections!

I've seen several things about Michael Douglas that leads me to suspect that he's, at the least, a mind control victim handler/abuser. He might be a mind control victim himself. I don't know. I haven't seen anything to support it.

Just thought I'd mention that stuff I wrote above suspicious connections. Rent that movie or download it from online somewhere and take a look.

One thing that I continue noticing, is that -- especially in movies -- suspected mind control victims who are actors, are usually grouped with suspected mind control victim handlers/abusers who are actors. So it's like wherever there's a mind control victim, there's usually a mind control victim handler/abuser close-by. Which makes sense.

Thanks, for the Brice Taylor and Cathy O'Brien stuff, Anonymous! I really, really appreciate it!

Alex did a great job, IMO.

Alex did a great job, IMO. He stayed calm and collected and easily shot down the dissident voices whose only arguments were "you're a disgrace".

Anybody have a recording of

Anybody have a recording of the interview yet?

Coming up soon...

Coming up soon...

No problem, Ø®£Z.

No problem, Ø®£Z. I'm just glad to be of any help I can. And now, ladies and gentlemen, in it's world premiere, here's the MP3 of tonight's interview of Alex Jones on the Alan Colmes Show... It really blew my mind -- by far the best I've ever heard -- and I truly believe this interview is the one we should spread as far and wide as we can, to wake up as much people as we can, in the shortest time we can... Let's get this revolution started!

http://www.filefactory.com/file/6062f1/

Thank you for posting the

Thank you for posting the interview but how do I listen to it?

Nevermind found it

Nevermind found it

How do you listen to it?

How do you listen to it?

Paul: Yeah, they need to

Paul: Yeah, they need to put "Download Now" in a much larger font.

-slaqqer

There is a link to listen to

There is a link to listen to it just look hard, it is about halfway down the page.

Alex is the best.

To download that file, for

To download that file, for anyone having difficulty finding the download link, scroll down the page to the dark blue text that says "Download for free with FileFactory Basic" and click it. Scroll down the page that opens and click the dark blue text that says "Click here to begin your download "

Thanks Anonymous! I'm gonna

Thanks Anonymous! I'm gonna have a listen now. I got to pause my watching of Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings to do so but, that's okay.

You guys should watch this one if you haven't seen it yet, by the way. It's pretty intriguing FreeMasonry stuff...

He is so amazing!

He is so amazing!

Yeah, I think Alex has hit a

Yeah, I think Alex has hit a grand slam right there. Wow.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR THIS!

EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR THIS! THIS IS A BIG VICTORY FOR OUR MOVEMENT!

http://www.filefactory.com/file/6062f1/

Download link is halfway down the page.

It might be a good idea to

It might be a good idea to thank Alan Colmes for being fair to Alex.

Write Alan Colmes here:

http://www.foxnews.com/alancolmesradio/internetgraffiti.html

lol WHOA! Anonymous, one

lol WHOA! Anonymous, one more thing.

At the IMDB website from the above link to The In-Laws, in pictures from the The In-Laws premiere, guess who was there ---> [ http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2012/SylvesterS_Grani_1127947_400.jp... ].

Add that to the connections example from above.

You can also reach Alan by

You can also reach Alan by emailing him here: alancolmesradio@foxnews.com

Great Interview

That was the best ive heard so far
please we need more of this !!!!!excellent job Alex Jones