I'm really amused by the tack that the media takes in relation to 9/11 Truth: It's just that good old fashioned American penchant for conspiracy theories! Gosh, we Americans just can't get enough of 'em! Mmmm mmm.

Okay, now let's talk about how Europeans have been at the forefront of 9/11 truth, shall we, media gatekeepers for the Big Lie?

Obviously, the reporters and journalists and show hosts can't refute the evidence, so they just label everyone pursuing 9/11 truth (and the criminals who did 9/11) as conspiracy theorists, and thus there's no need to debate the facts.

My local "independent" weekly republished a pretty good story by R.V. Scheide which - while I'm glad it got into Spokane's mainstream - took a similiar position. The author of an upcoming book on conspiracy theories, Kathryn Olmstead, is heavily quoted. However, she had to admit, "Sometimes, they're even successful, Olmstead says, noting that scandals such as Watergate and the Iran-Contra affair began as conspiracy theories until they were proved correct, at which point they became genuine conspiracies."

Vanity Fair, NPR, CNN, Fox, and more mainstream outlets are having to pay attention. The big lie is slowly disintegrating, folks, but the criminals and their supporters will continue working to keep it alive. Look at the war in the Middle East and you'll see why. Keep up the good work, fellow truthers. Remember, WTC7 is the smoking gun....

Remember, WTC7 is the smoking gun....
Mike in Spokane.... | 08.09.06 - 11:28 am | #

yep and LC2 it the best tool we have to pread the truth!!!!

No offense to Dylan... I love LC2 and am waiting anxiously for LCE. But, I have heard interviews with a number of radio outlets who have interviewed Dylan regarding 9/11. There are people that are great (like Dylan) in formulating thought and succinctly conveying a message. But, there are people, unlike Dylan, that can think quick on their feet and deliver a concise message.

Dylan, keep off the airwaves and focus on LCE.... Let others more media savvy discuss 9/11... please!

V, Dylan is the moviemaking genius, Bermas is probably a little better speaker. No biggie. All publicity is good publicity.

What does it do to a 20-something's ego to be in Vanity Fair etc? What would it take for Dylan to say to NPR -- you know what, I want to pass my interview on to Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, instead. Can you picture Dylan or the LC crowd doing that? That's why they were the chosen ones to have the 'hit.' They have the ego's to think they can do it all and in the process they will be made to look like nut cases easily by the MSM machine, all the while believing they are doing great because their fans will be building them up into icons constantly.

People should stop gushing all over them on here -- they need to learn when it's the right time to put their egos and fame aside and hand the ball to a professional who is standing in the shadows.

reader, let me explain something to you...

NPR e-mailed me and said "would you like to do an interview?"
I said "yes."

this is not about ego. I'm glad you have your own personal preference as to who's the best spokesman, but this is not your movement. it is everyone's.

I don't mean to be brutal -- Dylan et al are working hard and have done a lot and reached a lot of people. But now is the time for the information and the strongest points best elucidated by the actual scientists, not the celebrity and the fame of the film to take center stage. That is the only way to reach people in venues like NPR where people think and are proud of thinking.

I don't mean to attack or sound brutal. The reality of what happens to people when they are jettisoned into fame is something no one should deny or pretend can't happen to them. Everyone is susceptible under such pressure to think they are the answer and they can do it all and be the spokesperson for everyone. This is why there are so many people to fight in the military -- they all think they cannot be killed.

reader, if this were about ego, I would have taken the MSNBC spot.

instead, I handed it to Bermas, because I believed he could do a better job than I.

we do not have the option of passing our interviews on to people. all we can do is do the best with what we're given.

kevin ryan does not want his face on television, i can tell you that much. he cares too much for the safety of his family.

stephen jones is hard enough to get in touch with, let alone onto a radio show within an hours notice.

stop demanding perfection from us, please.

anytime anyone from the truth movement gets a spot in the MSM to talk about 9/11, that appearence is picked apart ruthlessly by people on this site. see Fetzer below for proof.the perfectionism is annoying as hell.

>>reader, do you think that NPR would really take 9/11 truth that seriously that they'd bring on the actual scientists?

They are afraid to have Jones on, that's why they don't call him up. But LC could make a spectacle of NPR if they tried to exchange themselves for Steven Jones and NPR refused. Now *that* would make a good scene to have in a next edition.

you were great dylan.

the other guy was a "suitopath" - i visited their web site.

Val McClatchey photo IS the smoking gun, whether it's real or fake!

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-g...

reader, do you think that NPR would really take 9/11 truth that seriously that they'd bring on the actual scientists? These media organizations are so corrupted and compromised that all they can do is try to obfuscate and discredit and do their best to bury the movement.

I love how the media uses the same
bullshit over & over when they
address a truth seeker.......
They give the impression that these are his/hers theories alone.....

Example:

"Chalrie Sheen and 911"

They try to give you the impression
that Sheen and Sheen alone is
the only one questioning this.
Like He did all the research himself.

Or

"Madison College Professor has some
wild theories about 911"

When they rarely do mention
"the movement" they just paint us
as bored interenet computer geeks who have spent the majority of
our lifes researching JFK and
need something new to suck on.

Of course they will NEVER bring up
someone of the likes of
Paul Craig Roberts
(and other true patriots).

WAKE THE F%#K UP AMERICA!

>>reader, let me explain something to you... NPR e-mailed me and said "would you like to do an interview?"
I said "yes."

Yet, imagine if you'd stepped aside for one second and put someone else first -- Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, or David Ray Griffin. Imagine.

>>this is not your movement. it is everyone's.

Exactly. Let's make it everyone's movement, not just LCs movement. Now is the time to hand over some of LCs power to others for the good of the movement, for once let the scientists and the people who are doing the numbers, currently standing in the dark (!), have the light shine on them.

Again, Dylan you are great at making movies with a great message. But let others speak for you when asked ad hoc questions. You need a professional, polished PR person to address these questions, not Dylan and Co. Your producer the other night looked like a thug in his "Investigate 9/11 T-shirt (which I ordered btw). I have been in sales for the past 20 years. I have learned it is not so much about the knowledge you have (which for you, is plenty) but how you convey that knowledge based on your audience. You are what, 22, 23? I almost idolize you for what you have done for the 9/11 movement. But right now, don't let egos get in the way of doing what is right.

P.S. If Aaron Russo can get his movie in theaters, I am expecting LCE to be in a theater near me in September... REMEMBER.. you have a lot of influential friends that can make this happen.

Chris, agreed -- we need solidarity big time

constructive criticism is one thing, but this shit seems pretty fucking petty to me.

Dylan:

I know I have been critical before, but I really do think you've been doing a better job in media appearances of late, and think an NPR Morning Edition story (which reaches millions in morning drivetime) is fantastic.

As I've suggested before, I strongly do recommend buying yourself (if you don't have one) an iPod with a built-in dictation microphone, and taking it with you to any interviews you do (and recording any phone interviews you do).

I am sure everyone here would love to have heard the full, uncut interview- to see what NPR chooses to keep and lose, and to get a better sense (in all interviews) of journalistic disposition. We do know some journalists (or producers) have been very duplicitious in their dealings with 9/11 Truth folks - setting them up (as with Fetzer on Hannity). Having audio to show that duplicity to the world helps the average person see the degree to which the media is NOT always an object, fair broker.

Anyway, keep up the good work.

V and others: Dylan has been on my radio show and he can think quick on his feet. He's a real guy and he tells it like it is. He's genuine and he knows the facts and he can communicate them. He created a world wide sensation (LC2E) that injected more juice into the 9/11 Truth Movement than anything else I can think of. Maybe Dylan could use more sleep at times :) but that's because he's working 24/7 to get the truth out to the people. I'm extremely proud of Dylan - and Jason and Korey.

We all need solidarity...

And to all you Loose Change detractors out there.. Expend the emotional energy, creativity, intellect and dollars to produce a movie to top Loose Change!!!! It is a great movie and has flipped even my own older brother in realizing the truth about 9/11.

Dylan, keep doing it. But, now you are in the big time. You are making dollars from DVD sales. Get a hired professional to talk about your movie .

jeeeeezus people STOP WITH THE EGO.

i love how easy it is for you to criticize people's every move from behind a monitor.

how bout you guys go on national television and speak to millions of people live? then we can all hop on 911blogger and talk about all the things you did wrong.

or, hey, maybe we can spend our time actually spreading the truth, instead of bitching on a website?

call me crazy.

>>we do not have the option of passing our interviews on to people. all we can do is do the best with what we're given.

You could pass it up -- a story where you asked to bring on Jones which was refused would make a great publicity piece to show that the MSM refuses to have on the real scientists.

>>kevin ryan does not want his face on television, i can tell you that much. he cares too much for the safety of his family.

So why is he willing to speak in public and do the journal? Besides, his face would not be in public on a radio program . . .

>>Stephen jones is hard enough to get in touch with, let alone onto a radio show within an hours notice.

Steven Jones is available all day long on his forum so I imagine you can easily reach him on the phone during those times.

i guess my point would be, a media appearence by Dylan, Fetzer, or anyone else isnt going to change the world, its not going to blow the lid off of 9/11 all by itself.so getting all worked up over it not being perfect or just to your liking seems irrational to me.

V- with all due respect, spending people's hard earned money on a spokesperson is the last thing on my mind. we're more concerned about our thousands of free DVDs for 9/11 this year.

disinfo- thanks, I'm trying my best.

"As I've suggested before, I strongly do recommend buying yourself (if you don't have one) an iPod with a built-in dictation microphone, and taking it with you to any interviews you do (and recording any phone interviews you do)."

good idea. i'm not an ipod person, to be honest. we try to record our full interviews, but sometimes it just doesn't happen.

btw, in case i appear hypocritical, the 2nd edition recut is rendering in the background, so I have some spare time to post. :D

reader, your idealism is getting in the way

"Imagine if you'd stepped aside..." WTF? Please get real. That is a totally unrealistic imagination you have there.

I've never once thought that this is "just LCs movement" -- and, I doubt seriously that anyone within the movement (or even the newbies who've been persuaded by LC) see it that way.

hey dylan, quick question, is Final Cut going to do a segment on the obviously inside job Anthrax attacks? it ties in with 9/11 and would make sense right? either way, keep up the great work.

If anyone has the Alex Jones interview with John Depetro on WRKO. It was on today (Augst 9 2006) at 9am.

PLEASE POST IT. I listen to this neocon joke everyday and some how I missed it today when Alex was on. So again please post this interview if you have it. Thanks

For those who have never seen this, a history lesson:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6638713703231012207

"Dylan, quick question dude. HowÂ’s the Thermate discovery going to factor into the Final Cut?
Dem Bruce Lee Styles | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 12:33 pm |"

well, we already interviewed Dr. Jones, so we can't leave him out. ;)

as for how we address it, that's still up for debate. some people have claimed to "debunk" what he's said, and a colleague from BYU wrote this entire thesis, closing with "In my 52 years of engineering I've never seen anything so irresponsible" (not verbatim, paraphrasing)

but it's going in, regardless.

V, cram it. Calling Fetzer "Fat bastard" is highly disrespectful, no matter what your opinions on his appearances are.

I'm glad you're such a wholesome person you can sling insults from a computer screen.

Dylan, care to "cram it" when talking to me face to face? I love your movie but don't ever fuck with my convictions.. You want to meet face to face? Bring it on...love the movie maker.. hate the person...

The Two Faces of George W Bush
http://earthhopenetwork.net/bush%20art/bush_two_faces_bin_laden.jpg

I think these comments deserve mentioning in LCFC.

just my $0.02

To be honest, I was a little sad to see the "flash" segment disappear, but I understand it's too controversial -- like the cell phone calls, for instance.

Any way you shake it, Dylan has done a great service for 911 truth; we all have our own theories about what happened, Mike Ruppert has apparently abandoned his quest in favor of peak oil, but we should welcome any and all contributions so long as they come from sane individuals in pursuit of the truth.

how can you hate someone youve never met? childish shit.........

"Conspiracy theories surrounding the events of Sept. 11 are
popping up on the Internet." Oh! realy? Where have you
been the last 5 years?

The 9/11 media is locked down by a mindset that permits only
pro-Israel involvement. A society whose citizens refuse to see
and investigate the facts, who refuse to believe that their
government and their media will routinely lie to them and
fabricate a reality contrary to verifiable facts, is a society that
chooses and deserves the Police State Dictatorship it's going to get.
How many excuses does the Zionist State need to continue killing?

http://www.zoa.org/

Some of these calls were left on voicemail, for example. Something happened to these people. The only question is what?

I know, Dylan. But we are going to have to delve into even this issue at some point.

V, please stay focused. The movement is much bigger & more important than any personality conflict you may have with Dylan or w/Fetzer's sense of style.

All right AmandaR, Bushies & Zionists are partners in crime. It's obvious. Let's bust 9/11 first, ok?

Dylan,

Keep making movies but keep off the airwaves.. LCE will make a difference. your out of the pocket 21 year old responses.. won't...... you sound like a .. teenaged looney!

I DO think that the "dancing Israelis" should be mentioned, at least in passing; ditto for the agents "monitoring" Atta and co.: it proves foreknowledge by a major intell agency closely alligned with the US gov.

It seems plausible that the PNACs "contracted out" the nitty gritty to the Mossad;

Some people think "Israel did it"; in a way, this is probably correct, but we must not forget that wealth and power are the real culprits; frankly I don't see much difference between the Israeli and US govs, it's sort of like the Demorat and Repug parties.

Come-on, Betty Ong's call to the "reservations desk" was absurd! And Kean only played 4 minutes of it & censored the other 20 minutes.

Hey everybody out there I just wanted to make a few points. First of all between the three of us we do around 5 to 15 interviews a day between tv,radio, and print. It would be foolish to turn these down, especially since all three of us are very well versed in 9/11. We are young and bound to make mistakes, however we all see the need for perfection and work harder towards that goal everyday. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW HARD IT IS DEALING WITH ALL THIS MEDIA WHILE STILL TRYING TO CREATE THE MOST CONCISE 9/11 PICTURE EVER?

Secondly we ALWAYS mention the scholars or Stephen Jones and others like him in order to draw attention to the numerous scientific papers out there disproving the official version. The video evidence of squibs and people reporting explosions however does a far better job (and a quicker one might I add) of convincing people of the controlled demolition. So in our eyes it would be utterly foolish not to promote our film first and foremost due to its wide and FREE availability everywhere.

Third to those who think I looked like a thug on MSNBC, I will say this. I take this shit seriously, as serious as a fuckin heartattack because this country has had several MASSIVE corinaries and is on its last legs. It disgusts me when I see these media figures laughing or smirking when addressing the most serious issue of our lifetimes. I never want to crack a smile when being attacked by some piece of trash that is betraying his country and humanity itself by trivalizing the matter. I hope you note though that I did not yell I kept my cool pretty well and addressed serious issues in four minutes eighteen seconds.

Peace to all those in the movement that know we are doing the right thing and continue to push forward, see you at Ground Zero on Monday morning.

fuck them Bermas, you didnt look like a thug, the t-shirt was appropriate. you did a great job with that tool Smerconish.

"It seems plausible that the PNACs "contracted out" the nitty gritty to the Mossad"

That might also explain why the "phone calls" are worded so shittily. English is not the first language of many Mossad. Also, you need some very heartless agents to load office buildings with explosives.

Jason, I thought you did an excellent job on the corporate media;

one can ALWAYS "do better".

suffice it to say that the vast majority appreciate your efforts.

Dylan,

I've heard that WTC 7 will feature more prominently in the final cut than in the previous versions. I really hope this is true, because it's one of the weakest links in the official story.

Just in case you missed it, here's the best video of its collapse in high resolution:

http://www.knowordie.co.uk/WTC7.avi

>The Two Faces of George W Bush
>http://earthhopenetwork.net/ >bush...s_bin_laden.jpg

What Bush says seems to have no value at all. Wait some months and he speaks different again. While other leaders are famous for immortal words like MLK's "i have a dream" speech, W.Bush will be remembered for saying "We must never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories, that shift the blame away from the guilty". - This phrase should really get a monument.

i like all of the lc2 crew and think that theyre doing a hell of a good job!!!!!

v, you need to stfu and do something!!!! quit being a little bitch!!!

how old are you?? you act like youre 12 on the net...

"I've heard that WTC 7 will feature more prominently in the final cut than in the previous versions. I really hope this is true, because it's one of the weakest links in the official story."

indeed. and ditto for the war games. The war games cause MAJOR COGNITIVE DISSONANCE amongst "true believers" in the official story.

The same scenario at the same time?

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

World Trade Center is out, print this flyer:
http://www.unitedslavesofamerica.org/wtcflyer.jpg

Huge Media Contact List
http://www.unitedslavesofamerica.org/mediacontacts.txt

WTC7 T-Shirt Print
http://www.unitedslavesofamerica.org/wtc7print.jpg

well, we already interviewed Dr. Jones, so we can't leave him out.

as for how we address it, that's still up for debate. some people have claimed to "debunk" what he's said, and a colleague from BYU wrote this entire thesis, closing with "In my 52 years of engineering I've never seen anything so irresponsible" (not verbatim, paraphrasing)

but it's going in, regardless.
dylan | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 12:37 pm | #

Cool, I can understand how it must be because weÂ’re all waiting for those results. And until then you can't really finish a segment on it, because you still need all the info.

But yea aside from that I think one thing you could do is really show building 7 to people. See if you can come up with a way to show the footage. E.g. I donÂ’t know if you've check this yet from Italian TV;

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?cat=9997&med=0&ord=Name&strt=30&v...

^But the way they compare WTC7 side by side with a known demolition is stunning. Also though JonÂ’s totally right with what he's getting at here;

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11931

There just needs to be a more healthy balance I believe between the physical evidence, and the circumstantial facts.

Bush will be remembered for saying "We must never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories, that shift the blame away from the guilty". - This phrase should really get a monument.
Greg | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 12:54 pm | #

true dat!!!!

Chris,

I appreciate your zealism. its great but you really need to do your homework on world affairs.. I give you credit though.. Good job!

That guy doing the "counterpoint" argument was a man named Timothy Naptali, employed by an organization called the "Miller Center". The "Miller Center" is a northern Virginia "think tank" (read privatized, facist, shadow government, dictatorial asshole organization), run by Philip Zelikow, the Executive Director of the 9-11 Commission.

Maybe he should have disclosed that, no?

Chris needs to find a girl/he wench to consume some of his issues on here.

Me thinking guy....

Some of these calls were left on voicemail, for example. Something happened to these people. The only question is what?

I think the media are going to continuing asking the LC guys "then what happeded to the passengers"? If you don't have some kind of response, most viewers will think you are stuck.

BTW, WTF did happen to the passengers? It is an obvious question that needs to be addressed.

>We just need to get people to >understand that the OV is a fraud.

We all ourselves made the transition to being a 9/11 skeptic. Face it, except for Alex Jones, everybody bought the official version for at least 1/2 year before any doubt appeared.
To me it seems those that 1. are told of the evidence (esp. WTC7) and 2. are denying it to be true, are having psychological boundaries such as
- having supported Bush
- being a die-hard Republican
- fear of a stock market crash (= conserving their wealth, e.g. Bill Gates etc.)

V, you angry little boy, i think you need to find a job, you come off as an immature ass with no people skills.

Chris is a great guy. I know him from college.... He loves life and loves his men. so what? He is gay as a lot of people on here.

Chris had a "flirt" on Clinton.. that is a fact!

Jason Bermas did look a bit tough but he did a good job of getting in what he could within the parameters allowed.
Now with things heating up a bit lately what I want to know is somebody in heirachy of the 911 movement, Morgan REynolds for instance cooking up a debate in front of the NATIONAL PRESS CLUB a "no planes" debate. ???
Perhaps it is just a ploy to get in front of the NTIONAL PRESS CLUB, this could be big and Morgan is as good as anybody but it's such a dumb topic but if that's what it takes to get in front of the NATIONAL PRESS CLUB I say do it but there has to be some way to frame the debate differently. Any news or information on this "RUMOR" of a debate at the NATIONAL PRESS CLUB?????
Tell me there's something going on. Any body heard anything??????

V, stop instigating b.s. here.

you challenged dylan to a fight and said you hated him as a person. these are not the actions of a mature, rational person. how old are you asshole?

How about a new CIA cartoon: "We must never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories, that shift the blame away from the patsy"

and, btw, if you girls (Susan and Jennifer) wanna pick on a gay guy, here I am -- out and proud too. None of this "admit" crap -- those of us who are openly gay don't ADMIT anything -- we're not GUILTY, you idiots. I ACKNOWLEDGE that I'm gay. Now, get a life... become a fag hag or get a boyfriend. Jeezus.

The best video compilation I have seen to show newbies is here:

http://www.tyrannyalert.com/video.htm

They also have a great 23 page PDF to accompany it.

http://www.tyrannyalert.com/9-11%20fairy%20tale.pdf

What a shame so much time and energy is wasted on this nitpicking when you could all be doing something more effective.

I have passed out THOUSANDS of copies of LC2E and know for a fact I have helped to awaken HUNDREDS of people in my SPARE time. I don't have an online persona, nor am I "public" about it, I am another nameless, faceless nobody like that big crowd at the end of V is for Vendetta, but I do what I can with what time and money I can spare because it's my duty as an American citizen.

Dylan may or may not be perfect, ditto his film, but he works at it and it works so until you've got something better or more effective, you ought to STFU and get busy, V.

Gotta run, people to awaken.

i would say that all of the real 911 truth movemnet is behind the lc2 crew 100%!!!!!

the guy challenged dylan to a fight earlier, he was going on about how Fetzer is a fat bastard and how dylan needs to go away, he started making "your gay" type comments when he was still in his V persona.he seems like an angry little homophobic self hating homosexual teenager with too much time on his hands.
Chris | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 1:30 pm | #

Yes, either that or a Raytheon employee!

and, btw, if you girls (Susan and Jennifer) wanna pick on a gay guy, here I am -- out and proud too. None of this "admit" crap -- those of us who are openly gay don't ADMIT anything -- we're not GUILTY, you idiots. I ACKNOWLEDGE that I'm gay. Now, get a life... become a fag hag or get a boyfriend. Jeezus.
CK | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 1:33 pm | #

HAHHAHA!!!! nice!!!!

thats why we love CK!!!! you rock!!!

sorry to engage with the shills.... now back to why we're all here!

Jason, Dylan and all the level headed members of this board: Ignore the trolls and idiots. I truly believe that any mainstream attention is better than the alternative. Sure, there may be some unknowing viewer who will focus in on some stupidity or something they think is kooky, and tune out on the whole matter. But there will be plenty of others who might get a spark in their brain. They may not realize it when they first see the information, but it will hit them later. And the more ordinary people are thinking and talking about this, the better off we will all be.

Take care.

the guy challenged dylan to a fight earlier, he was going on about how Fetzer is a fat bastard and how dylan needs to go away, he started making "your gay" type comments when he was still in his V persona.he seems like an angry little homophobic self hating homosexual teenager with too much time on his hands.

Chris... you are a great teenaged American full of vim and vigor. So let's keep the adult fight between us adults.... But keep it going! We neeed the teenagers to joing in the fight. BUt gather your facts (and your tiny balls then you can join the next fight_)

Sincerely,

V... and those people that have already fought the fight.. not guys htat just started having hair grow on their balls... no offense}

Say what you want about Dylan and friends, but LC2 has done more for the 9/11 truth movement than all other 9/11 videos combined.

hehe, thanks inside

I have only said good abouot Dylan and friends...

Kurt, eat a fat one you self hating little bitch.

by the way, im 23 you fucking moron.

Chris .. you ever had rockets firing against you?

V, are you Susan and Jenifer?and Kurt? you little bitch,pick a name.......

hurry up and get your childish digs in, you'll be gone soon.

can I suggest that we all stop feeding the trolls? they're obviously very hungry today

yeah, good idea.

WHOA WHOA WHOA!! CALM DOWN PEOPLE. Why are we attacking each other? this is RIDICULOUS!!!

Chris, ignore them..that would show your level of maturity. V, Susan, provide some links, or hand out some flyers at a WTC screening, or at least argue with "coincident theorist" on other boards

Chris... let me guess.. you are one of those enlightened ones that have never been in war... I.e. Cheney, Bush, Wolfowitz, Pearle... It is not fun being bombarded with bombs from the enemy.

I KNOW 9/11 was an inside job. But you herald it like "YOU KNOW". Well you don't know my 20 year old virgin. Go enist and see what is like on the other side.. coward!

waaaaahhhhh. cry about it Kurt, you little fucking bitch. YOU KNOW 9/11 was an inside job, but i dont? because you've been in war and i havent? like i said V, pick ONE NAME and stick to it you jackass.

you are way out of line kurt!!!!!! i dont care how much war youve seen, its doesnt mean that you know shit....

maybe it means that youre more brainwashed then others.. i dont know...

hint -- new thread available -- let's go there and PROMISE not to pay attention to these trolls

chris, dont let this asshole get to you... HAHAH!!! its too funny to get mad...

Can IP addresses be banned here? All of this insult crap is just a waste of time.

There were some excellent posts at the beginning of this thread^. Don't keep falling for these obvious agent-provocateur tactics to disrupt threads.

how ablut i go do some work....

when this is all over we should get paid for our time.. lol

Hopefully, these are just annoying kids and not true COINTELPRO-type agents...

Dylan,

good to hear, and thanks for the link!

Just in case it is of any help, here are the fruits of my own work on WTC 7:

http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/02/destruction-of-wtc-7.html

The most important finding (arrived at through measurements and calculations) is that during the early phases of its collapse, the building fell at about the speed of free fall, ie practically without structural resistance. Ie, the analysis corroborates that presented in "9-11 Eyewitness".

And here is the WTC 7 analysis by a Finnish Doctor of Engineering, who works as an accident researcher:

http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/WTC7_collapse_examination.pdf

9/11 truth is (or should not be) about "anti-war". We don't have to agree on everything. Take Paul C. Roberts, he and many other "Reagan"-Republicans have distanced themselves massively from the neocons, and blame them for destroying the US. Liberals will disagree with those on many issues, but what we need is to unite on the issue on 9/11, to put other fights aside.

Ohh, and "digg up" the good 9/11 truth comments, prevent them from being buried!

Oops, sorry, posted in the wrong place.

It's definitely time to require registration to make comments, and ban idotic fighters who contribute nothing to the effort.

im sorry for engaging with the trolls, but this is the first time they came at me directly so hard. im not gonna sit here and let people slander me.

TONS OF PEOPLE IN THERE WE NEED TO WAKE UP:

http://digg.com/videos_educational/Video_Popular_Mechanics_editor_debunk...