Washington Post: Government Lied about 9/11

The Washington Post has a story today about how the Government lied about the military response to 9/11 (free subscription required). The story is also covered by Raw Story

Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.

Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources.

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"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."

* * *

"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true."

* * *

John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral.

"My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me."

Who owns the Washington

Who owns the Washington Post?

Dame Edna will make an appearance today at Great Northern Mall.

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2006/03/dame-edna-speaks-to-ohio.html

http://westfield.com/greatnorthern/gettinghere/index.html

There will be a demonstration of a Thermite reaction in the main concourse. Please bring protective eye gear and keep the kids at a safe distance. And tell Frank Lowy we think being a mass murder is way not cool.

http://westfield.com/greatnorthern/gettinghere/index.html

Somebody's definently trying

Somebody's definently trying to cover their ass.

"9/11 truth will be worse

"9/11 truth will be worse for business than Bush's policies"

I willing to take that chance, even if you don't prove that statement.

Maybe the call by

Maybe the call by neocon-whore Ann Coulter to "execute" the New York Times staff for "treason" because they published the latest Bush bank-spying scandal, maybe these things are finally getting the MSM papers to understand how important 9/11 truth is.

"In an article scheduled to

"In an article scheduled to be on newsstands today, Vanity Fair magazine reports aspects of the commission debate -- though it does not mention the possible criminal referrals -- and publishes lengthy excerpts from military audiotapes recorded on Sept. 11. ABC News aired excerpts last night."

All I can say is my, what a coincidence, huh? That you publish what we've known for years TODAY, just in advance of that magazine- what was it's name again? Oh yeah, Vanity Fair, where have I heard that name recently?

Another great line-

"A separate report, delivered secretly to Congress in May 2005, blamed inaccuracies in part on problems with the way the Defense Department kept its records..."

Really, do tell. Like in little scissored pieces of audiotape in trash cans around the airports?

"Some staff members and

"Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate."

F'n DUH.

Limited hang-out operation #1 in full swing-- BLAME IT ALL ON NORAD-- but what about the "terror drills"?

LTTE's are in order for WAPO, ABC and Vanity Fair.

"My hope is that they will

"My hope is that they will all stand trial someday for treason."

the truth is that many people have served as accomplices after the fact;

these include Hannity, O'Reilly and North, for starters;

The key is KNOWING their treason.

they have been presented with the facts but have steadfastly refused to entertain them; moreoever, they have tried to supress the truth; this is the very definition of treason.

O'Reilly can talk about bodies in the harbor; it's all bluff, the trumpetting of a coward.

We all know what happened to Goebells.

Yes, Freedom to Fascism is

Yes, Freedom to Fascism is excellent...

Now would be a good time to

Now would be a good time to bring Mineta's testimony as well as the questions about this phantom plane at the WTC to everyone's attention...

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Journal_4_Jet.pdf

FAA whistleblower..."System

FAA whistleblower..."System was designed to fail."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0819/p12s05-altv.html

How much you want to bet

How much you want to bet DailyKos, SmirkingChimp, CrooksandLiars, and the rest of the leftgatekeeper scum wont cover this story or http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/438649p-369566c.html

???

And remember, Curt Weldon called Able Danger "sinister and troubling", and hinted it was used to "manipulate" the hijackers.

Also

Also this:
http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01

Makes you wonder if there really was decoy planes or blips NORAD was following.

OT: Does anyone know where I

OT: Does anyone know where I could get a copy of America: Freedom to Fascism? I wouldn't mind paying for it, however I'm in Europe and I suspect there won't be many options for obtaining it here...

Also, is it worth seeing?

Somebody's starting to feel

Somebody's starting to feel the fire under their feet.
Before the truth about 9/11 can sink its teeth into anyone within the administration, they will divert attention away from the executive office by pinning it on the military. Possibly even going all the way up the chain of command into the pentagon. Still, there are far too many other questions that remain. Military operations don't account for everything that day.
But by making it a military issue, they are attempting to keep it quarantined.

IF THEY LIED TO US ABOUT THE

IF THEY LIED TO US ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN 9/11 AND IRAQ, AND IF THEY LIED TO US ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE AIR AFTER 9/11, AND IF THEY LIED TO US ABOUT THE NORAD AND FAA RESPONSE TO 9/11, AND IF THEY LIED TO US ABOUT THE CONNECTION OF OSAMA BIN LADEN TO 9/11, ISN'T IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LYING TO US ABOUT THE PERPETRATORS OF 9/11!!!

Bill Owen wrote: I think I

Bill Owen wrote: I think I see some people trying to cover there asses. My hope is that they will all stand trial someday for treason.
Well, either one day they'll stand trial for treason, or we will!

Jeez. Next thing they'll be

Jeez. Next thing they'll be telling us is that the government lied about the Kennedy assassination...

Those leftist heretics!

Before I forget... a letter

Before I forget...

a letter to the editor in a newspaper suggested something interesting:

The israelis want an ARMED and READY-to-kill UNITED NATIONS force in south lebanon buffer zone.

The UN soldiers are there to protect Israeli people, civilian and military infrastructure from the Hizbollah rockets.

Then the same UN soldiers should be also equipped with Surface-to-air missiles capable of shooting down israeli jets... in order to protect the Lebanese people and their infrastructure from Israeli bombs.

FAIR COMMENT, I thought!!

I am in the process of

I am in the process of enlightening my sister about 9/11 truth. I have started with the money masters dvd and I am about to segue into 9/11 on our next meeting.

http://www.themoneymasters.com/

WOW... Operation-arse-cover

WOW...

Operation-arse-cover getting in gear... next there might be accusations and THEN DENIALS-THAT-UNCOVER-SECRETS.

2006 could become very interesting.

Truthers.. pepper the PLAYERS with FAXES, quoting the WASH-POST ARTICLE.

LIE, deceive ... do anything to elicit a reaction... and answer. THEN FEED THAT ANSWER to the next player...

in this way you have a chance that someone will TALK TOO MUCH.

Sen. Dayton accused NORAD of

Sen. Dayton accused NORAD of lying a long time ago...

http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/2004.html#July31,2004-Senator_Dayton

I think I see some people

I think I see some people trying to cover there asses. My hope is that they will all stand trial someday for treason.

Just like to share an

Just like to share an idea,

Go to any e-commerce sites (Amazon, Buy.com, Circuit city, any other music or movie review site & so on....) that you could leave reviews on. Go there everyday and leave some sort of 9/11 truth infos there. Especially on site like Amazon where you could give a reviews on almost anythings. Go find the most recent TOP ten CD or DVD or upcoming releases or most popular or most sold and flood those pages with 9/11 truth comments (make sure you give them link to 9/11 truth pages). Post some on other popular items too, like TVs, bags, clothes.... we need to reach all ages.

There is an interesting

There is an interesting juxtaposition between tonight's ABC-TV Nightline broadcast and this Washington Post article, especially in the context of near-simultaneous CSpan coverage and the release of the Moussaoui trial evidence.

Seems to me there's an internal war going on inside the Administration.

It brings to mind the comment made by David Ray Griffin in the Q&A session after his presentation in Wisconsin about how the Bush administration policies will eventually be seen to be bad for mainstream American business and that they would move to bring down the Bush administration, and that 9/11 would be the means for doing it.

"Bush administration

"Bush administration policies will eventually be seen to be bad for mainstream American business"

9/11 truth will be worse for business than Bush's policies. The whole monetary system will crash.

The truth about 9/11 is

The truth about 9/11 is coming out...

And it's far past time...

Just this week, the insane Bush/Cheney administration is linking the Middle East fiasco to their self-inflicted 9/11 event...

Bush is connecting IsraelÂ’s fight against Hizbollah to the Sept. 11 attacks.

President Bush:

"The current crisis is part of a larger struggle between the forces of freedom and the forces of terror in the Middle East. For decades the status quo in the Middle East permitted tyranny and terror to thrive and as we saw on September the 11th, the status quo in the Middle East led to death and destruction in the United States."

Bush and his gang are freaks. And, yes, it does appear that people "on the inside" are starting to cover their asses - as well they should. It's a matter of time before the real criminals behind 9/11 will be punished.

Rachel Maddow was actually

Rachel Maddow was actually covering this, but I caught it late and thought she was talking about Vanity Fair, not the Washington Post. Anyway, what's so interesting about this development is that FAA was the one scapegoated for getting everything wrong. Remember how some timelines on intercepts shifted a lot? Look at Flight 93...they changed the intercept notification time 51 minutes, so FAA was hung out to dry.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/071204_final_fraud.shtml
I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but it seems like the rats are jumping ship.

The Washington Post may not

The Washington Post may not have a clue, but beauty queens know...

http://www.911hoax.com/

Dame Edna hint:

Remember to always use protective eye gear during a Thermite reaction!

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6857/645/1600/dameedna.jpg

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/cdi-pull-it-means-pull-it-down_30.html

Man, I hate Sean Hannity

Man, I hate Sean Hannity more and more each day. What a freaking weasel.

This appears to be a CYA.

This appears to be a CYA. Remember though, it wasn't only the Pentagon that was lying, but also Dick Cheney, according to the staffers.

Remember though... the key

Remember though... the key phrase in this article, to the layman...

"the bungled response to the hijackings"

They're trying to say they lied to cover up their incompetence.

They certainly weren't incompetent in the way they used 9/11 to further their fascist agendas.

Donald Rumsfeld wasn't incompetent in the way he started planning for war with Iraq at 12 o'clock that day.

Joe T.- Use your

Joe T.- Use your television's best feature, the off button, and you will come closer to God and the Truth.

http://www.gospelthomas.com/gospelthomas69.html

I guess i will take my

I guess i will take my chances.Kind of gives new meaning to the truth will set you free.
I only hope that it is done completly.The one's directly involved shot for treason,The ones in that helped cover it up,life in prison(Attica)not the club med prison resort,and last but not least,NO MORE FEDERAL RESERVE.

I guess it's time for the

I guess it's time for the ones who knew to start comming foward.We may even do a little plea barganing.
Hummmmmm? Like giving you some soap on a rope for prison.

I think this is the biggest

I think this is the biggest 9/11 story of the year. You basically now have confirmation that the commission KNEW they were being lied to - and considered criminal charges.

If we do not jump all over this story - we are worthless.

When this comes out,my only

When this comes out,my only hope is that we develope safe gaurds to never allow this to happen again.
No more classifing items on behalf of nation securtiy. Top secret military items,such as the F22 Raptor,Abrahams M-1 tank...etc.Would be an exception.No more presidental pardons!
And at least one Major media company controled by the US taxpayers!

Sounds like their getting

Sounds like their getting scared.GOOD!
Even if they knew they were being lied to.They did nothing to expose it.So their just as guilty.I don't believe it.They are trying to cover there asses.

They're not going to white

They're not going to white collar resort prison. No, no, no. They're going to Federal pound me in the ass prison! :)

http://team8plus.org/e107_plu

http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3597.0
Vanity Fair on 9/11 Wargames: "Flight11" Tailnumber didn't match, "175 part of an Input"
Wed Aug 02 2006, 10:19AM

...this week WashPost, ABC and apparently also Vanity Fair tried in a synchronized media release this week to spin the 9/11 Wargames as part of the negligence theory of 9/11.

U.S. Media is still playing both sides of the argument:
So called "lies" (for incompetence) and so called "truth" (for the 9/11 truth movement and the controlled demolition).

However some more details of the NORAD/NEADS transcripts confirm that the official flights, which officially crashed into the Twin Towers couldn't have been the same.

But almost noone sees the details, which point to the bigger picture:
The lies about the "planes":

9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes
http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01

08:51:11ROUNTREE: A plane just hit the World Trade Center.WATSON: What?ROUNTREE: Was it a 737?UNIDENTIFIED MALE (background): Hit what?WATSON: The World Trade Center—DOOLEY: Who are you talking to? [Gasps.]WATSON: Oh!DOOLEY: Get—pass—pass it to them—WATSON: Oh my God. Oh God. Oh my God.ROUNTREE: Saw it on the news. It's—a plane just crashed into the World Trade Center.DOOLEY: Update New York! See if they lost altitude on that plane altogether...

08:55:18BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yeah, he crashed into the World Trade Center.ROUNTREE: That is the aircraft that crashed into the World Trade Center?BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yup. Disregard the—disregard the tail number [given earlier for American 11].

ROUNTREE: Disregard the tail number? He did crash into the World Trade Center?BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): That's—that's what we believe, yes.

...BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): No. The last [radar sighting] we have was about 15 miles east of J.F.K., or eight miles east of J.F.K. was our last primary hit. He did slow down in speed. The primary that we had, it slowed down below—around to 300 knots.DOOLEY: And then you lost 'em?BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yeah, and then we lost 'em.

...The problem, Scoggins told me later, was that American Airlines refused to confirm for several hours that its plane had hit the tower.

...08:57:11NASYPANY: Think we put the exercise on the hold. What do you think? [Laughter.]

Just at that moment, in one of the dark, U-shaped air-traffic-control areas at New York Center, on Long Island, a half-dozen civilian controllers are watching a second plane that's turned off course: United 175, also scheduled from Boston to Los Angeles. As the controllers try to hail the pilots, a manager comes running in and confirms that the plane that hit the first tower was, indeed, a commercial airliner, rather than a small Cessna. It's just at that moment that United 175, 38 minutes into its flight and now near Allentown, Pennsylvania, moving southwest farther and farther off course, makes a sudden swing northeast toward Manhattan. Suddenly—instinctively—the civilian controllers know: it's another hijacking, and it's not going to land.

The controllers start speculating what the hijacker is aiming at—one guesses the Statue of Liberty—and the room erupts in profanity and horror.

One controller is looking at his scope, calling out the rate of descent every 12 seconds as he watches the radar refresh. It is not until the last second, literally, that anyone from New York Center thinks to update NEADS. ID tech Rountree fields the call.

09:03:17ROUNTREE: They have a second possible hijack!PLAY | STOP

Almost simultaneously, United 175 slams into the south tower of the World Trade Center, something several NEADS personnel witness live on CNN, including Colonel Marr, the commanding officer. (Dooley told me she remembers looking up toward the Battle Cab and, for a long moment, seeing Marr's jaw drop and everyone around him frozen.)...

09:04:50—Is this explosion part of that that we're lookin' at now on TV?—Yes.—Jesus …—And there's a possible second hijack also—a United Airlines …—Two planes?…—Get the fuck out …—I think this is a damn input, to be honest.

The last line—"I think this is a damn input"—is a reference to the exercise, meaning a simulations input. It's either gallows humor or wishful thinking. From the tape, it's hard to tell...

The worm is definitely

The worm is definitely turning!

As of 10a this morning (I know I'm late), www.buzzflash.com is covering the Post story as "breaking news".

Buzzflash has been acting as one of the left gatekeepers. For them to jump on this story this hard definitely sends a message.

Again, I think the hard push on talk radio yesterday has started something. Its obvious that the truth cannot and will not be concealed.

Even Randi Rhodes (God bless her) sounded like she was trying to cover her ass. Talking about how she did not want to risk her credibility by making baseless accusations.

I'm sorry Randi, but questioning why NORAD stood down, and WTC7 collapsed, and why put options were placed, and no evidence of a plane at the pentagon, etc. etc. are not credibility risking questions. I'm glad she's starting to ask them now, but five years after the fact is a little late.

I guess better late then never, right? Yes my friends, the worm is definitely turning.

Hold on to your seats... its about to get interesting.

I think this is the biggest

I think this is the biggest 9/11 story of the year. You basically now have confirmation that the commission KNEW they were being lied to - and considered criminal charges.

If we do not jump all over this story - we are worthless.
John Albanese | 08.02.06 - 9:47 am | #
so now, all of a sudden, you trust what the commossioners have to say? they are STILL lying, just trying to cover their own asses. they NEVER even thought about pursuing criminal charges.

Nico, you do realize that

Nico, you do realize that this further hurts your bullshit CGI argument right? getting nervous yet?

Yeah 911 was "bungled" the

Yeah 911 was "bungled" the way FEMA "bungled" New Orleans after they blew the levees...

THE US GOVERNMENT DID NOT FAIL ITS MISSION
IN THE WAKE OF HURRICANE KATRINA

"It was clear from the start that the goal of FEMA and Homeland Security was, not to resue people, but to control them. Their directive was to relocate families and businesses, confiscate property, commandeer goods, direct labor and services, and establish martial law. This is what they have been trained to do. The reason they failed to carry out an effective rescue operation is that this was not their primary mission, and the reason they blocked others from doing so is that any operations not controlled by the central authority are contrary to their directives. Their objective was to bring the entire area under the control of the federal government - and this they succeeded in doing very well."

FEMA has executive authority

FEMA has executive authority to control the masses in the event of another 9/11 type attack. In other words, after the next 9/11, say hello to martial law.

This all ties in perfectly with the new Bush bill proposing authority to impound US citizens without legal representation, trial or even evidence if they're suspected of terrorism - which is a very broad term.

Get ready to say hello to your new America!

Chris Rose, can you repost

Chris Rose, can you repost your "Breaking Worldwide" link you posted in the duplicate that I just deleted?

Reprehensor said: "Limited

Reprehensor said: "Limited hang-out operation #1 in full swing-- BLAME IT ALL ON NORAD-- but what about the "terror drills"?

Yes, exactly!!! Listen folks, we've got to push the ball forward by raising the terror drills every time we talk to someone, right a letter to the editor, call into (or appear on) a radio show, etc.

Norad? WAR GAMES!
FAA? WAR GAMES!
Incompetence? WAR GAMES!

...BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins):

...BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): No. The last [radar sighting] we have was about 15 miles east of J.F.K., or eight miles east of J.F.K. was our last primary hit.

Did you catch that?

read it again...

...BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): No. The last [radar sighting] we have was about 15 miles east of J.F.K., or eight miles east of J.F.K. was our last primary hit.

Now look at this-

http://www.team8plus.org/e107_images/newspost_images/parallel_points.jpg

Flight 11 is NEVER, at any time, east of JFK.

Hello?

Is this thing on?

"How much you want to bet

"How much you want to bet DailyKos, SmirkingChimp, CrooksandLiars, and the rest of the leftgatekeeper scum wont cover this story or http://www.nydailynews.com/news/...9p- 369566c.html"

Smirking Chimp is a total scam site marketing itself as for liberal minds, yet continually violates various liberal points of view, including 9/11 truth. They actually ended a 9/11 truth thread after they allowed it to go on a little while - the "Board Nanny" suddenly decided she/he had had enough and violated everyone's First Amendment Rights. They enjoy frustrating people on that site.

Jeff Teidrich, owner of Smirking Chimp. makes money off of his false claims his blog needs new servers every 6 months to keep running. He always has these scams begging for money with claims of crashes, data loss, to get people to send him money. It's all a scam, he is nothing more than an unemployed retired old geezer who tries to get extra cash from people on his loser site.

We need to shut down each and every one of these so called liberal blogs like Smirking Chimp and let people know they are scam sites out to get people's donations, while violating people's First Amendment Rights.

It doesn't cost anything serverwise to run a blog of links and forums. You don't need your own server. The service for such a blog would be about $150/year. Smirking Chimp keeps saying it needs a new server every year. It's a scam and it should be shut down.

i agree with John

i agree with John Albanese... this article, from a MSM standpoint, is the biggest of 2006 thus far. please reference it in emails, phone calls, etc.

"John F. Lehman, a

"John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral.

"My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me."

-- Going after bureaucrats because they lied didn't make sense, huh? Bureaucrats, as in, the people legally responsible for defending the nation?

STRANGLE the fuckers with this.

Thread about the Washington

Thread about the Washington Post article closed by a moderator on one of the largest forums on internet:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=52&threadid=1903880&e...
The mod talked of tinfoil hat!
I believe we should target the biggest forums relentlessly.
To find the largest boards:
http://rankings.big-boards.com/

Just posted Washington Post

Just posted Washington Post article to BroadwayWorld.com. a NY forum for theatre folk where I was called a 'wanker' and a 'moron' for suggesting that Israel should be criticized for bombing Lebanon.

No I can sit back and watch the fun. They're runnung round and round like ants.

This is truly stunning news!

This is truly stunning news! Thomas H Kean actually speaks out? Words of doubt about (one of) the many glaring anoma(lies) told to his 9/11 Commission?

Live chickens dancing on a hotplate indeed!!
Me thinks the tide is starting to turn in our favour at last.The WORLD will know the truth soon i hope and the insanity this world is falling into will be halted!!

Perhaps Kean also has

Perhaps Kean also has subconsiously reviewed the entire 9/11 Commission Report itself by saying "It was just so far from the truth..."