NYTimes covers Barrett again.

A Skeptic on 9/11 Prompts Questions on Academic Freedom

...As children zoomed by on tricycles and shot basketballs at a community center near his home, Mr. Barrett, 47, described how some news orgainzations (sic) (the French daily newspaper Figaro and Radio France International, in fact) had reported that an agent from the Central Intelligence Agency visited with Osama bin Laden two months before the attacks. He also said fires could not have caused the collapse of the World Trade Center towers at free-fall speed, as reported by the special Sept. 11 commission. “The 9/11 report will be universally reviled as a sham and a cover-up very soon,” said Mr. Barrett, who has been a teacher’s assistant or lecturer on Islam, African literature and other subjects at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, since 1996. “The 9/11 commission has its conspiracy theory, and we have ours.” ...

It's better than the OpEd last month...

OK, NYTimes, these baby steps are nice, but you still have a challenge to answer;

...I call on the New York Times to take the lead in finally exposing to the American people and the world the truth about 9/11. Taking the lead on such a story will, of course, involve enormous risks. But if there is any news organization with the power, the prestige, and the credibility to break this story, it is the Times. It performed yeoman service in getting the 9/11 oral histories released. But now the welfare of our republic and perhaps even the survival of our civilization depend on getting the truth about 9/11 exposed. I am calling on the Times to rise to the occasion. - David Ray Griffin.

Good work again Kevin!

Good work again Kevin!

Raw Story just posted a

Raw Story just posted a developing headline (with no other text yet):

"US releases hundreds of 9/11 attack photos,
22 videos; Some graphic. . . Developing. . ."

What's up?

OT: No rockets fired from

jfal, that news is also

jfal, that news is also posted here on another recent thread. The US courts have released all the "so called" evidence from the Mussaoui trial. Some interesting stuff in there.

For persons new to 9/11

For persons new to 9/11 truth, this article raises curiosity, informs newbies that a "loose confederation" of websites exists for further exploration of the subject, and suggests that this point of view is not wisely dismissed out of hand. Thanks go to all parties concerned (including Mr. Nass and his 60 Republican co-signers who insist on continuing to erect monuments to their colossal ignorance concerning 9/11 truth, thus helping intensify public curiosity).

The New York Times and the

The New York Times and the Washington post are owned by the Federal Reserve bankers. As you know the federal reserve is not really federal, its privately owned. After, reading the URL below, I am not real sure that the New York Times is eager about bringing up 911 as being an inside job to say the least.

Look at this URL. It tells it all. Be prepared for a big paradigm shift.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm

Its also in book form, The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins and Ezra pound, about 200 pages.

Here is one quote in this book and url about Kuhn, Loeb and Schiff buying the New York Times.

On November 13, 1914, in a letter to Sir Valentine Chirol, Spring-Rice wrote, (p. 241, v. 2)

"I was told today that The New York Times has been practically acquired by Kuhn, Loeb and Schiff, special protégé of the (German) Emperor. Warburg, nearly related to Kuhn Loeb and Schiff is a brother of the well known Warburg of Hamburg, the associate of Ballin (Hamburg) Amerika line), is a member of the Federal Reserve Board or rather THE member. He practically controls the financial policy of the Administration, and Paish & Blackett (England) had mainly to negotiate with him. Of course, it was exactly like negotiating with Germany. Everything that was said was German property."

You can keep calling on the

You can keep calling on the NY Times to the "Challenge" but the Jews who own the paper are deaf, dumb, and blind to the Truth. Remember that papers like this are not in bed with the enemy, they are the enemy. Also keep in mind that, "All that glitters is not Gold."

http://www.gospelthomas.com/gospelthomas47.html

The NYT Barrett article is

The NYT Barrett article is ok, but I see it's in the "Education" section of the paper. Is this section nationwide or only in the NYC metro area? Is it only in the electronic edition or is also in the printed editions?

Also, I don't like incomplete quotes like: "He also said fires could not have caused the collapse of the World Trade Center towers at free-fall speed, as reported by the special Sept. 11 commission.".... It's very misleading to leave out WHY Barrett blieves this! NYT (deliberately?) makes Barrett sound like he doubts this just for the hell of it, as if he has no other explanation.

Aw man... it used Led

Aw man... it used Led Zeppelin to insult me.

OT: CRAP!!!

OT: CRAP!!!

And it's got my name written

And it's got my name written all over it...

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

As there is no german media

As there is no german media presenting Steven Jones conclusive evidence, I done the translation into german.

http://dirk-gerhardt.homepage.t-online.de/Bilder/Beweise.pdf?foo=0.20912...

"This is a faux news

"This is a faux news article..." at bottom of page.

But very "fair & balanced" though! I here Sen. Rick Santorum will be going live with a press conference on the details shortly.

Followed by an appearance on Hannity & Colmes.

Those bastards are really

Those bastards are really fucking with me since i started (in secret) making my own 9/11 film.I was going to expose the joooooooooo's for being behind it all.

lol! I'm drunk as fuck

Excellent S-B! Folks, don't

Excellent S-B!

Folks, don't get over-confident that the truth is spreading fast enough.

The C-SPAN & Barret stuff is good, but it's going to take an awful lot more than this to undo 5 years of hardcore msm brainwashing that, "Osama did it."

OT: Chris, with these

OT: Chris, with these prolonged record temperatures across North America, I suspect we may get a doozy of a hurricane season this year too.

You can keep calling on the

You can keep calling on the NY Times to the "Challenge" but the Jews who own the paper are deaf, dumb, and blind to the Truth. Remember that papers like this are not in bed with the enemy, they are the enemy. Also keep in mind that, "All that glitters is not Gold."

http://www.gospelthomas.com/ gosp...elthomas47.html
AmandaReconwith | 08.01.06 - 1:59 pm | #

What the hell are you talking about? Take your bullsh!t some place else shill!

more like AmandaHugandKiss!

more like AmandaHugandKiss!

I second that.

I second that.

Yo, dz and/or 911blogger

Yo, dz and/or 911blogger design committee...I got my logo ringer tee a couple weeks ago and it is pretty sweet, but I didn't figure out until recently that the sketchy quality is because it is a lightweight tee. I figure the heavyweight will be more durable, but my next beef is with the logo coloring. 911blogger is an awesome logo, but those colors seem kind of faded and the stencil isn't that visible. I suggest one where the lettering is mostly dark and also a black tee with mostly white lettering, too. But, nothing too gaudy like those god-awful '80's-arena-rock Loose Change Investigate 911 shirts.

CYA Agents: Bush Hit Men

CYA Agents: Bush Hit Men Running Scared

Chris Floyd | Aug 1 2006

Like a gang of twitchy hit men afraid they've botched the job, the Bush Regime is creeping back to the scene of the crime: the Congressional backrooms where they thought they'd put the kibosh on the American Republic once and for all.

But it seems there is still a flicker of life in the victim -- and thus a threat that the gangsters might have to face the music somewhere down the line. So they went back to the bagmen on Capitol Hill this week, ordering their minions to provide retroactive legal cover for the rank offenses committed by the big boys at the top when they devised their torture regimen -- in knowing, deliberate violation of the U.S. War Crimes Act, which was passed by acclamation in the Republican-led Congress in 1996, and toughened up the following year with the support of the Pentagon, the Washington Post reports.

The moribund Republic, which the Bush gangsters had slowly tortured for years, was thought to have been finally bludgeoned to death when the Bushists brought out the blunt instrument of the "unitary executive" earlier this year. After the Regime's patently illegal domestic spying programs were revealed, the Regime at last dropped all pretense and openly declared a presidential dictatorship, insisting that any action ordered by the "Commander-in-Chief" is beyond the reach of law.
http://infowars.net/articles/August2006/010806CYA.htm

more like

more like AmandaHugandKiss!
Drew M | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 2:53 pm |

I always think that whenever I see this posters name. I thought it was just me!

You can keep calling on the

You can keep calling on the NY Times to the "Challenge" but the Jews who own the paper are deaf, dumb, and blind to the Truth. Remember that papers like this are not in bed with the enemy, they are the enemy. Also keep in mind that, "All that glitters is not Gold."

http://www.gospelthomas.com/ gosp...elthomas47.html
AmandaReconwith | 08.01.06 - 1:59 pm | #

Seriously where's your evidence that the NYtimes is run by "Jews". And even if it is so what, John Stewart from the daily show is a Jew, is he "the enemy" to? A lot of real Jews don't even support Israel, and as Webster Tarpley said Rabbi Michael Lerner of the "Tikkun movement" is pro 9/11 truth. Check out the Tikkun's magazine;

http://www.tikkun.org/

^ And if after looking at that you still think "the Jews" are "the enemy", then your seriously one brainwashed bigot.

"Asked last night about the

"Asked last night about the executive order, a White House spokeswoman said she would have a response today."

Whatever happened to this?

If you are going to "poke

If you are going to "poke fun" at Mel Gibson, you better have an ass just as good or better than he has.

>it's in the "Education"

>it's in the "Education" section of >the paper

The MSMs are all spinning the Barrett story to be a "teaching at universities" controversy. As if 9/11 fact or fiction wouldn't matter. They're downplaying the importance of 9/11 now when back then they trupetet it out like armageddon is upon us, and it still does matter: the stock markets (esp. oil) are hit every time a new phony Quaeda tape is released - how ridiculous, and all because of 9/11. And not to forget: the money being made with all these new 9/11 blockbuster movies.

Anonymous at 08.01.06 - 1:33

Anonymous at 08.01.06 - 1:33 pm, you wrote:

""
... As you know the federal reserve is not really federal, its privately owned. ...
""

I see this claim made quite often by those in the patriot movement (of which movement, I count myself as a member). But this claim is what might be termed purely a "scare tactic," as it doesn't make much sense on logical grounds, but is intended to simply play on people's indoctrinated fears of big business (of which, the actual thing to fear in this regard is when big business is in bed with government).

The Federal Reserve is "private" much akin to how the Post Office is "private," or how Pravda under the U.S.S.R. was "private." Which is to say, it is not private at all, but is very much a government institution.

It may be "private" in the de jure sense, but that is merely words on paper. In the de facto sense, it is totally a branch and arm of the government.

Putting the Federal Reserve under the control of Congress wouldn't make our situation any better, as we would still suffer just as much from the fiat money, credit expansion, inflation, and the boom-bust so-called "business cycle" which that causes.

Our problem isn't the personalities who rule over us. It is the fact the we are ruled over in the first place, i.e., the fact that individuals (whoever they may be) hold such power at all. Transfer this immoral coercive power over others to individuals or groups who you think mean well and will make things right, and the same old process of rapine will continue on as before.

Our fight--if it is to make a real difference--is not against people, i.e., against personalities, however horrendous their deeds may be. If we simply replace those evildoers with "good people" while leaving in place the mechanism of rulership, then we will see our "good people" become the evildoers we previously fought against. The reason for this is because doing so ignores the incentive structure (i.e., the internal logic of the system) that rewards depredations of liberty.

In order to really form a free society, the only way to do so is to create a system wherein the internal logic of it tends toward ever more liberty--as opposed to the governmental system which inherently tends toward ever more tyranny, due to its incentive structure.

Our fight is necessarily institutional, if it is to be at all meaningful. What we fight against is the internal logic of the system (i.e., the rewards and incentives that the structure of the system necessarily advances, due to its inherent structual nature) which make staged events such as the 9/11 attacks inevitable (and far moreover, the regular usurpations of liberty that occur under said governmental system even without such dramatic Pearl Harbor-type events).

For more on this matter--concerning the incentive structure of social systems--see my below article:

"Government Causes the Crime," James Redford, first published at Anti-State.com circa October 2001:

http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/govcause.html

Once one gets done reading my above article, one would do well to follow up with some of the articles listed in my below post:

"Recommended Reading Concerning Political and Economic Theory," TetrahedronOmega, September 30, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/libertyandtruth/viewtopic.php?t=4&mforum=libertyan...

Bashing Jewish people or

Bashing Jewish people or Muslims is all the same..a distraction.
There are bad apples in every "major religion" in the world.
There is only one person or group ,people should keep their energies focused on ..that's the Cheney Neocon Cabal..stay focused.

hipmeister- And Sam and Don

hipmeister- And Sam and Don Newhouse as well as the Bush Crime Family.

hipmeister- You can add

hipmeister- You can add Larry Silverstein and Frank Lowy to your watch list too.

Somethings going awry here,

Somethings going awry here, Amandahugnkiss is posting replies!!!. Not it's normal behaviour of dropping rubbish and running from the smell. I wonder why? ;-)

Ed Schultz just gave us a

Ed Schultz just gave us a smack down on his show. He made some comment about "the crowd who thinks we hit ourselves".

He then said we're "trying to get free promotion" on his show.

Yeah, like we stand to profit somehow by directing people to CSPAN so that the truth of 9/11 can get out.

Ed Schultz is a major tool.

But keep calling!!! It seems to be working!! We're getting under their skin!!

"Our fight is necessarily

"Our fight is necessarily institutional, if it is to be at all meaningful."

Exactly. That should be the lesson of 9/11. Not just that Bush, Rummie or Cheney are bad.

"...you're dealing with

"...you're dealing with extremely sophisticated, widespread, psychopathic, agentry..." but he goes on, "...we must not live in fear of anything... including our own demise. Once you're afraid, then they've got you."

"We should always have mutual respect among ourselves when we're discussing anything... because then it's not so easy for someone to sow discord in our midst. We should never engage... in name-calling... there's a certain person who says, 'Anyone who says that a Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon is a 'hoaxter'.' ... the more of us who do not call names the more the name-callers will stand out like sore thumbs." - Barrie Zwicker.

I'm Mad. Really Mad. Ed

I'm Mad. Really Mad. Ed Schultz is wasting no time today in slandering the whole truth movement. Calling us the 9/11 freaks, he continues to talk down to this movement. I beg someone who has the time to call into his show.

I just finished reading the

I just finished reading the article about the third large plane seen circling the towers after the North Tower was hit and up until the South Tower was hit. It can be seen on at least two videos and at least one photograph. At 9:04 a.m., Diane Sawyer of ABC News made remarks on-air about the "circling" jet she and her colleagues "all saw" prior to the second strike.

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Journal_4_Jet.pdf

The Commission, of course, doesn't even mention this plane flying low in the forbidden airspace of lower Manhattan at the same time as the South Tower was hit.

How is it POSSIBLE that something like this has been suppressed for five years?! Someone please explain!

Ed Schultz has a long

Ed Schultz has a long history of trashing any questions about 9/11.hes not a very smart man, he claims he was always a republican until his wife "made him see the light". so that right there shows you what kind of level hes thinking on, that he needs his wife to hold his hand and show him the light so to speak. hes a redneck bastard who likes to pretend hes a liberal because he supports a few pet issues here and there.i used to listen to him because there was nothing else on while i was working,(this was right around the time i was starting to really research 9/11),and anytime anyone brought up questions about 9/11 he would get angry and almost always hang up on them.fuck Ed Schultz and the fake liberal donkey he rode in on.

ARRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Fox

ARRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Fox News head story? HEZBOLLAH IS GONNA STRIKE IN THE U.S.!!!!!!!!!! right now the Cavuto headline reads-Hezbollah sleeper cells ready to attack America?

Schultz just announced that

Schultz just announced that he contacted McKinney, Ron Paul, & Kicinich (however you spell it). Caller now talking about CSPAN coverage. Making great points!!! Kudos to whoever this is. Sounds very concise and reasonable! Ed admits the guy sounds "well thought out and not crazy." This guy is the way we should sound!

Ed is making the point that the scholars are probably in it for the money.

Vesa, I think a scholar

Vesa, I think a scholar tried to put it all together and was quickly silenced with the use of death threats to his kids.

This was a great caller!!!

This was a great caller!!! Blew Schultz out of the water!

put the Randi Rhodes show on

put the Randi Rhodes show on now

Now Schultz has on some guy

Now Schultz has on some guy who wrote an article ,"Who knocked down the WTC".

Randi Rhodes pitched 9-11

Randi Rhodes pitched 9-11 CSPAN showing tonight....before going national she questioned the OV a whole lot more than she does now

I have a problem with the

I have a problem with the scholars in that they don't look at anything other than physical evidence.

True scholars would do as Dr. Griffin did in both of his books, and probably his third.

The guy is making the point

The guy is making the point that the buildings could not have been prewired without anyone knowing. He made fun of the movement spouting that Marvin Bush was a director of Securicom and was resposible for security. Schultz let out a big laugh.

Jon, Anyway we can get you

Jon,

Anyway we can get you to call into Schultz sometime? Your take on things would throw him for a loop for sure.

I also have a problem with

I also have a problem with the scholars in that they link to WingTV.

"Jon, Anyway we can get you

"Jon,

Anyway we can get you to call into Schultz sometime? Your take on things would throw him for a loop for sure."

Does he come on at night? Does he come on during the weekend? If not, probably not...

Sibel Edmonds Asks: 'What

Sibel Edmonds Asks: 'What Price Security?' And 'What Security?'
and 'How do we oblige our government to control itself?' and other difficult questions

As we mentioned last week, Tice is being supported by National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC), a group founded by Sibel Edmonds in order to help current whistleblowers and encourage new whistleblowers to come forward.

By serving a subpoena on Russ Tice, according to my conversation last week with Ms. Edmonds, the feds are trying to "kill two birds with one stone"; in other words they are trying to silence Tice on the secret illegal spying, while making an example of him to intimidate other potential whistleblowers.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3158

"Does he come on at night?

"Does he come on at night? Does he come on during the weekend? If not, probably not...
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 4:27 pm | #"

He is on from 12-3 here in San Diego. I have the same problem. Darn job!

Your usual shows wouldn't

Your usual shows wouldn't know what to do with people like me. I wouldn't call up and say, "Building 7 Building 7"...

Is there any chance that

Is there any chance that Loose Change or the 9-11 truth movement said this at

http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/

"He is on from 12-3 here in

"He is on from 12-3 here in San Diego. I have the same problem. Darn job!"

Yup.

Someone just called into Ed

Someone just called into Ed Schultz and said he was an airtraffic controller on 9/11. He claims he was one of the last people to talk to Flight 93. He says that there were no other aircraft in the area when 93 went down. He claims the nearest base for interceptors was 45 mins away. He also stated that Post 9/11 thinking makes us think there was plenty of time to scramble jets, but pre 9/11 this was not a concern. Schultz said the planes that were scrambled were out of Langly. Went to break. I'll keep us posted.

OT: Here we go... Israeli

OT: Here we go...

Israeli forces are operating in Baalbeck area, northeast Lebanon, about 50 miles from capital, Beirut, and near border with Syria.

"Is there any chance that

"Is there any chance that Loose Change or the 9-11 truth movement said this at..."

Sure... some IDIOTS maybe, but it's certainly not common practice within the movement.

Look at me... I put "Thank You Sir, It Was An Honor" before my interview with Bob McIlvaine... I have a tribute to the Jersey Girls on my site... I have said time and time again that what I do, I do for the families...

IN FACT, and SBG can attest to this... when I used to post on Howard Stern's bulletin board, I would "bump" threads by saying, "For The Families"...

Terrence is doing what all shills do... they take a mistake, and they capitalize on it.

That's all they have... Karl Rove, and lies.

"He also stated that Post

"He also stated that Post 9/11 thinking makes us think there was plenty of time to scramble jets, but pre 9/11 this was not a concern."

What about Mindy Kleinberg's testimony before the 9/11 Commission that questioned STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES?

They have procedures for

They have procedures for when a plane goes off course. They have procedures for when a transponder is turned off. They have procedures for when radio contact stops. They EVEN have procedures for when a hijacking takes place.

People act as if the FAA and NORAD could have only responded that day to a hijacking...

Thats why I post this stuff

Thats why I post this stuff Mr. Gold. For others to point out the weakness.

I also have a problem with

I also have a problem with the scholars in that they link to WingTV.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 4:26 pm | #

^ True words lol! What is it doing there, it still baffles me to this day. We all know WingTV are very suspect, who if are not cointelpro, certainly act like it. They've attacked so many good people, including Alex Jones. What they do is blatant divide and conquer style sh!t. Jon have you ever asked Dr Jones, Fetzer or any of them about it, and what did they say to you dude?

Schultz said he was going to

Schultz said he was going to come back to the airtraffic controller after the break, but he is now interviewing someone else.

Jon, Why don't you

Jon,

Why don't you contribute to SFN any longer? I've been debating every truth thread on there. The few of us who know what's up could use the help.

AmandaReconwith = "A man to

AmandaReconwith = "A man to reckon with", of course. What I don't understand is why this person isn't IP-banned from this site.

Is there any chance that

Is there any chance that Loose Change or the 9-11 truth movement said this at

http://911conspiracysmasher.blog...r.blogspot.com/
pw | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 4:31 pm | #

Just ignore it dude.

haha, exactly dreadwolf.

haha, exactly dreadwolf.

"Jon, Why don't you

"Jon,

Why don't you contribute to SFN any longer? I've been debating every truth thread on there. The few of us who know what's up could use the help."

I never did. I only posted on www.howardstern.com and www.sternchat.com I don't know what SFN is?

hey Jon, you got a re-cap of

hey Jon, you got a re-cap of the McKinney debate? how did she do?

After sternchat, I started

After sternchat, I started the YBBS...

sternfannetwork.com It's the

sternfannetwork.com

It's the one that he endorses. They do roundtable programming from this group on Sirius.

If you choose to participate just look in General Chatter or Politics. There are lots of 9/11 related threads.

I encourage anyone here to check it out. Lots of people, New Yorkers and the occasional GZ worker.

hey Jon, you got a re-cap of

hey Jon, you got a re-cap of the McKinney debate? how did she do?
Chris | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 4:51 pm | #

Yea, I wish i could have seen that. Does anyone know if it's up on the Internet some place?

CNN is bashing McKinney

CNN is bashing McKinney right now..........

Air traffic controller back

Air traffic controller back on Schultz. Now says he was not the one who saw 93's descent.

Air traffic controller back

Air traffic controller back on Schultz. Now says he was not the one who saw 93's descent.
T-Bone | 08.01.06 - 4:57 pm | #

The guys probably a shill.

Also just said he was not

Also just said he was not the controller who talked to 93.

He stated he was not aware

He stated he was not aware of the truth movement and said it is probably due to this being an election year and the movement probably has a political agenda.

the movement probably has a

the movement probably has a political agenda.

He's got that right.

The airtraffic controller

The airtraffic controller sounded genuine and when asked for his opinion of a new investigation, he paused awhile before making the "political agenda" comment.

"hey Jon, you got a re-cap

"hey Jon, you got a re-cap of the McKinney debate? how did she do?"

She did ok. It was pretty much a politicians battle (I can lie better than you, etc...), however, she definitely won the debate, and she ended with, "If you want someone to speak truth to power in Washington D.C. I'm your woman..."

" sternfannetwork.com It's

" sternfannetwork.com

It's the one that he endorses. They do roundtable programming from this group on Sirius.

If you choose to participate just look in General Chatter or Politics. There are lots of 9/11 related threads.

I encourage anyone here to check it out. Lots of people, New Yorkers and the occasional GZ worker."

Do you remember me from Stern's board?

Would someone please tape

Would someone please tape Nightline this evening? Someone posted this over at the Randi Rhodes Message Board...

"I was watching Nightline on ABC last night, and at the end of the show they said that tonight (Tuesday), the exclusive story is going to be "new perspectives on 9/11." Maybe this is in part due to the CSPAN event? Anyone else heard the heads up on nightline?

They didn't say "Conspiracy theories" or anything like that, just "new perspectives."

"Vesa, I think a scholar

"Vesa, I think a scholar tried to put it all together and was quickly silenced with the use of death threats to his kids."

Yes, but that happened recently.

The evidence of the third plane has been there all these years. I don't get it.

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Journal_4_Jet.pdf

Anyway, now I'm asking this. As there is irrefutable evidence of a third large plane at WTC at the time of the strike, what will be done with this evidence?

Don't you all see this as HUGE?

Hey All...Some dork over at

Hey All...Some dork over at conspiracy smasher wishes us all dead...slowly and painfully. Isn't that nice. Those folks are such great debaters, aren't they?

What a pisser of an email I

What a pisser of an email I just received from Amazon.

"Dear Amazon.com Customer,

We've noticed that customers who have purchased 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA by Webster Griffin Tarpley also purchased books by The Editors of Popular Mechanics. For this reason, you might like to know that The Editors of Popular Mechanics's Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts will be released in paperback soon. You can pre-order your copy by following the link below."

:-:

Jon, No I don't, if you used

Jon,
No I don't, if you used the same name. We're talking about sternfannetwork, right?

I did not visit the earlier

I did not visit the earlier boards. Were you chased off by a mod?

i cant tape it, but thanks

i cant tape it, but thanks for the heads up reprehensor.

A 9/11 Exclusive thats all

A 9/11 Exclusive

thats all the Nightline website says. no link, no explanation.

tonight on ABC Nightline: a

tonight on ABC Nightline:
a 9/11 Exclusive

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/

what time is nightline on?

what time is nightline on?

What a pisser of an email I

What a pisser of an email I just received from Amazon.

"Dear Amazon.com Customer,

We've noticed that customers who have purchased 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA by Webster Griffin Tarpley also purchased books by The Editors of Popular Mechanics. For this reason, you might like to know that The Editors of Popular Mechanics's Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts will be released in paperback soon. You can pre-order your copy by following the link below."

Anonymous | 08.01.06 - 5:08 pm | #

HAHA, classic!

Kevin Barrett on Hannity

Kevin Barrett on Hannity right now!

http://www.hannity.com/index/listenlive

The caller, I believe it was

The caller, I believe it was Chris, on Schultz was one of the best speakers I've ever heard on the topic. He was polite, concise, and extremely articulate. He let Ed speak without interruption (Schultz gets fussy sometimes when guests cut him off). Just wanted to say thanks, I think the caller went a long way towards helping Schultz realize there are rational people on this side of the fence. Even though people here are quick to critize Schultz, he has a very large microphone..

Kevin Barrett on Hannity

Kevin Barrett on Hannity right now!

http://www.hannity.com/index/listenlive
stallion4 | 08.01.06 - 5:15 pm | #

^ Dope!

Jon and Bruce, The scholars

Jon and Bruce,

The scholars site has not linked to Wing TV since they decided to bash the Chicago Conference and everyone that participated it one of their classic vile and ill informed attack pieces.

I just checked again to be sure.

and quick to critize Schultz

and quick to critize Schultz for good reason. his history proves he deserves no respect. but i totally get your point about being polite etc. to get your points across. that said, fuck Ed Schultz.

Kevin Barrett is on

Kevin Barrett is on Hannity's radio show.

what time is nightline

what time is nightline on?
DHS | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 5:14 pm | #
11:35 eastern.

Barrett is kicking ass.

Barrett is kicking ass.

"Jon and Bruce, The scholars

"Jon and Bruce,

The scholars site has not linked to Wing TV since they decided to bash the Chicago Conference and everyone that participated it one of their classic vile and ill informed attack pieces.

I just checked again to be sure."

You need to check your glasses my friend. They took it down after I confronted them about it... and after I got into an argument with Fetzer, he put it back. It's still there.

WTC 7 on Hannity? It is

WTC 7 on Hannity?

It is truly the Apocalypse

reprehensor, please tell me

reprehensor, please tell me you're recording that.

And taking names.

And taking names.

He's whomping on Hannity's

He's whomping on Hannity's ass!

Someone called in just

Someone called in just before Barrett came on and mentioned CSPAN tonight. Hannity hung up on him. I tried to get through, but couldn't.

Barrett is kicking Hannity's ass right now !!!

and she ended with, "If you

and she ended with, "If you want someone to speak truth to power in Washington D.C. I'm your woman..."
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 5:02 pm | #
nice. im surprised her opponent didnt bring up 9/11, if only to slander her.

"ou should be ashamed of

"ou should be ashamed of yourself, Sean" -KB

Nope, will have to get it

Nope, will have to get it from an archive somewhere.

anyone record Barrett on

anyone record Barrett on Hannity just now?

I was Gold9472 on stern's

I was Gold9472 on stern's board.

" Nope, will have to get it

" Nope, will have to get it from an archive somewhere."

sumbitch.

Sean Hannity 800-941-7326

Sean Hannity 800-941-7326

The scholars site has not

The scholars site has not linked to Wing TV since they decided to bash the Chicago Conference and everyone that participated it one of their classic vile and ill informed attack pieces.

I just checked again to be sure.
Radical Pragmatist | 08.01.06 - 5:17 pm | #

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It's still there man I just had a look, it's at the bottom of the page.

Ed seemed to be stuck on the

Ed seemed to be stuck on the point that no professional in the field of controlled demolition had commented on the issue of the collapses.

Who was the president of the CD company that made a comment to the effect that the twin towers/wtc7 were examples of a 'textbook demolition' but soon after changed his statement to 'the planes obviously brought them down'?

Also, have there been any other statements from people within the industry that we could politely e-mail to Schultz? He did promise to watch the program on C-SPAN this evening and may be more receptive to the cause if we provide him with what he seems to be stuck on-

He needs to promote CSPAN.

He needs to promote CSPAN.

what a fucking coward. he

what a fucking coward. he slanders him at the very end and doesnt let him respond. coward.

eisenreich: are you talking

eisenreich: are you talking about Van Romero?

Chris, what did you expect

Chris, what did you expect from Hannity. I only caught the last minute or so, what did Kevin get to talk about and did Sean silence him with mute button?

wow, hannity is such a

wow, hannity is such a condescending little pr*ck. Unbelievable. He was totally just trying to bait Kevin, but I feel Kevin held his ground pretty well...

got to listen to the

got to listen to the interview. i hate hannity. he is an ass to say the least.

May I say that I did not

May I say that I did not thoroughly enjoy listening to "Sean".

Barrett OWNED the first half of that "interview".

he has a pretty large radio

he has a pretty large radio audience... maybe they'll come around

Yes, heavy on the mute

Yes, heavy on the mute button.

same typical rightwing "your

same typical rightwing "your a muslim, you hate america,you love terrorists,islamofascism,blah blah blah" bullshit. to think that millions of people actually fall for that shit.

Hannity bitch moved Kevin,

Hannity bitch moved Kevin, he cut him of at the end and then chatted a load of venomous bull. I hope all his listeners realise that was a deliberate attack so that Kevin couldnÂ’t respond and set the joker straight.

They don't call him "Hannity the assclown" for nothing.

death throws...

death throws...

Randi Rhodes is asking for

Randi Rhodes is asking for questions
that you would like to ask about 9-11
I got hung up on by the screener because i ask the same question i always ask of Randi...When are you going to interview David Ray Griffin
peace,pw

WOW Randi Rhodes just played

WOW Randi Rhodes just played a powerful clip of Bowman at the CSPAN conference.

http://www.airamerica.com/listen/

...He [airtraffic

...He [airtraffic controller] claims the nearest base for interceptors was 45 mins away...
T-Bone | 08.01.06 - 4:36 pm | #
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In 45 mins, those fighter jets are in Europe, shit!

I stand corrected......The

I stand corrected......The links to Winging TV archives use to be everywhere, and those are the ones that they removed after Chicago. My Bad. (Or is it Jon's bad since he seems to be taking credit for inspiring the link to be returned at the bottom?. smile)

Someone asked earlier about

Someone asked earlier about Controlled Demolition experts contacting Ed Schultz? I challenge anyone to go to the industry leaders website, controlled demolition incorporated , and not be completely chilled by what they find there , specifically under 'forensic investigation' and 'government' work( such as the Murrah building), their brazen description of imploding a tower to a pile of rubble in 7 seconds ,is a sick joke .The propaganda lies thick on the ground there , terrorism this and that , and ' foreign policy initiatives' seem to be of great concern to them , that and 'assuring the confidentiality of even the most discreet clients'. Then check out the picture.

Barrett OWNED the first half

Barrett OWNED the first half of that "interview".
reprehensor

I agree, I was amazed at how much Kevin was getting in.......then Hannity just played the set up questions and Kevin's honest and intelligent answers where reduced by Hannity into Yes and No proclamations.

I'm not sure how intelligent Hannity's audience is.....the 1984 references where appropriate but but most likely right over the top of most listeners.

Colin Alexander - I did

Colin Alexander - I did something like this.... The answer I got definately supports a controlled demolition since they themselves say that there would not be enough energy to collapse the entire building.

Name:

No, it isn't possible. There isn't enough weight to get the structure moving at sufficient velocity to start a progressive failure that would insure that the balance of the structure below collapsed completely to grade. I will give you an example. Attached is a picture of a building that partially collapsed near the top because of a fire. The only reason it didn't fully collapse is because of the reinforced concrete walls around the stairs and elevator towers in this type of construction.

Explosives demolition must start at the bottom to get the entire structure moving with much smaller explosives charges on intervals moving up the structure which are detonated later in the sequence to keep the building moving as the amount of weight falling is reduced. That is true whether you care about debris breakage, spread of debris or anything else.

Bottom up...not top down and not "top alone." Our company has been doing this for 60 years...that is the way it has to be in our industry.

I trust this is enough for your inquiry. If not, I am sorry I could not be of further help.

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Phoenix, Maryland USA 21131
Tel: 1-410-667-6610
Fax: 1-410-667-6624
www.controlled-demolition.com

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_____Original Message_____
Name
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:25 PM
To: Carol Rollison
Subject: Re: Top Down Demolition

Carol:

Thanks for the quick response.

One other question...

You seem to imply that it is not done due to possible damage to
surrounding buildings.

Is it possible to perform an Explosives demolition from the top-down?
If a person did
not care of surrounding damage, would a top-down demolition by
explosives be possible?

If a top-down demolition did occur, would the material left afterwards
be very different
compared with a bottom-up demolition? Since you stated:

"start at the lowest floor possible to release the greatest amount of potential energy possible for breakage of debris as the structure falls"

Would there be much more debris from a top-down demolition versus the
standard
way? And would the top-down approach require much more explosives in
order to
obtain a similar result?

Thanks for your time.

Regards,

Name

Carol Rollison wrote:

>Name:
>
>We presume you are asking about explosives demolition versus
>dismantling or conventional demolition which always starts at the top
>and works downward.
>
>Explosives demolition, to the best of our knowledge and based on 60
>years of experience, always starts at the bottom of a structure.
>Reason for that, Name, is that the explosives charges release the full
>weight of the structure above, releasing the total amount of stored
>potential energy in the entire structure. That also gets the entire
>structure moving in the desired direction (either downward or possibly
>to one side to avoid an adjacent property). If someone tried to start
>an implosion at an upper elevation, there is too much risk that control
>of the debris as it fell down on the structure below would be shifted
>in the direction that you don't want it to go.
>
>So the answer is, "no." All of CDI's implosions over the years and all
>of those we are familiar with as performed by others start at the
>lowest floor possible to release the greatest amount of potential
>energy possible for breakage of debris as the structure falls.
>
>Sorry we couldn't help you with an example of a different approach.
>
>
>CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, INC.
>2737 Merryman's Mill Road
>Phoenix, Maryland USA 21131
>Tel: 1-410-667-6610
>Fax: 1-410-667-6624
>www.controlled-demolition.com
>
>This email, including any attachments, is intended for the receipt and
>use by the intended addressee(s), and may contain confidential and
>privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient of this
>email, you are bound to confidentiality and are hereby notified that
>any unauthorized use or distribution of this email is strictly
>prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this
>email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent
>those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this email
>and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts
>no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this
>email.
>
>
>
>_____Original Message_____
>Name
>Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:56 PM
>To: Controlled Demolition Inc
>Subject: Top Down Demolition
>
>
>Dear Sir;
>
>Since you are probably the largest Demolition experts in the nation,
>can
>
>you tell me if there have ever been any Top-Down Demolition's? Is it
>possible to perform a Top-Down Demolition? If so can you link to an
>article or video of one?
>
>Regards,

Interesting chapter from the

Interesting chapter from the Tarpley's bio of Bush. Basically Ford was on defense - the Church committee on CIA covert operation was causing havoc, Ford kicked Bush out of vice president ticket for 1976. The nomination of Bush to head CIA (recommended by Chenney) was all over media and congress seen as disgrace. Now, at the last moment "undisclosed terrorists" gunned down CIA station chief in Greece which is with great media frenzy flown in Wash. DC. The Ford/Bush PR campaign blaims the liberals who by investigations weakened CIA. Bush goes through..

Well, that means the busheviks fight till the end and dirty. So 9/11 truth might end up bloody as well..

http://www.kmf.org/williams/bushbook/bush15.html

Hannitys listeners will see

Hannitys listeners will see Hannity painting Barrett as a terrorist sympathizer, and since his audience fully buys the lies of "the war on terror", in fact, their whole political philosophy depends on it in some cases,they will no doubt see this as a win for Hannity.(especially the childish little rant at the end where he didnt even let Barrett respond to his slander) brain dead fucks aint worth winning over anyway.

The Nightline sounds good, I

The Nightline sounds good, I hope your recorders are all set. Lets hope it won't be a complete hit piece..

sorry OT , but I think most

sorry OT , but I think most thinking people will make the connection between images and videos of what 'Controlled Demolition Inc" does and , 911 .
Before someone says yeah but millions of Americans are unthinking sheeple , just check out the amazon link on their site to their big cofeetable book .Turns out most people who buy or are intersted in that book purchase 911 truth books. Their are even subtle subtext in the reveiws that hint at 911.How embarrasing for them !

Listen to Randi Rhode Now

Listen to Randi Rhode Now (www.wjno.com/main.html), she has open up a bit. or you could listen to the rebroadcast from (www.supertalk940.com/main.html) into the third hour (around 8.p.m). She really go into it.

"He claims he was one of the

"He claims he was one of the last people to talk to Flight 93."

Yes, and I was in the Presidential bunker that day with Cheney and I say ....

"I did not visit the earlier

"I did not visit the earlier boards. Were you chased off by a mod?"

I was known as Gold9472.

SEAN HANNITY KNOWS ABOUT WTC

SEAN HANNITY KNOWS ABOUT WTC 7

SO NOW YOU KNOW THAT HE IS MAKING A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO COVER UP FOR A MASS MURDER

A DEMON OF FILTH ---UNHUMAN SCUM

DISEASED

YES RAND, AND IT IS A CRIME

YES RAND, AND IT IS A CRIME FOR HANNITY TO DO SO. LET'S POINT THAT OUT TO HIM!