Cheney wanted torture so badly that lawyers who did not want to go along with it "felt like they might be kind of weirdly in physical danger."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DstuXsPKqeU#

Now Dick is so paranoid he fears disabled veterans. (If the CNN pic of Kucinich is fair, so is this one.)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/07/27/2008-07-27_injured_v...

“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson

It seems sort of obvious now that the use of torture, by those who probably perpetrated 911, is to get false confessions from people who had nothing to do with it. It seems to merely be a way for the real perpetrators to generate additional patsies as needed.

I would be willing to bet that anyone who is promoting the use of torture of so-called enemy combatants probably has a criminal connection to the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

Anyone who *orders* torture must have some degree of psychopathic personality disorder, at the least, especially in the knowledge that torture produces garbage "intelligence". Torture is fundamentally against any principles of civilized human conduct. Those who *execute* methods of torture would, of course, benefit from having a psychopathic kind of personality, but the consequences of disobeying orders is likely to be considered more important than any moral issues raised by torturing people; in the military, shit rolls downhill, (aka chain of command).

There are people in very senior positions in this administration who exhibit psychopathic traits. Furthermore, when many of the neoconservatives within (and associated with) the Bush Administration have a blatant track record of hatred and phobia towards arabs and muslims, and that a principle aim of the neoconservatives within this administration is to demonize the muslim community worldwide..... it's hardly surprising that torture would be part of their M.O. They probably even derive pleasure from the knowledge that they have the power and motivation to inflict great pain from the comfort of their offices and executive suites.

CHENEY, BUSH, RICE, GONZALES, ADDINGTON, YOO, RUMSFELD, CIA, BLACKWATER AND MANY OTHERS COMMITTED WAR CRIMES. THERE SHOULD BE WAR CRIMES TRIALS FOR ALL OF THEM.

This is without regard for the murderous crimes on 9/11/2001. Some of the same players are guilty of committing that precipitous crime. Of course there are many others on that list.

The torture was to get false confessions. This was to provide cover for the true perpetrators of 911.

The Gitmo trials are a continuation of the cover up.

The War Machine practically boasts about its willingness to torture. At first I was amazed by their audacity, then I realized intimidation is their game. The intended audience is ourselves in the 9/11 Truth movement, among others. Their enormous lies are defended by expert media tacticians who regularly use limited hangouts (like this interview) combined with news accounts of torture policies approved at the highest level to scare us into submission. Anthrax worked just fine for Congress in the aftermath of 9/11. Does anyone know what the real dynamics are of how Congress is currently controlled? I'm curious to know all the ways the Lie is being held up. As Peter Jennings said, "Everybody knows...You must get at the under infrastructure..." We need to get at the under infrastructure as well.

I believe we are closer than we think.

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

The false paradigm is what they want us fighting for.
Why not join together and fight for true freedom and liberty?

What's scary to me is when she said "proper to me is obeying the law". How in the world is obeying the law proper? This is why we're so screwed. Obeying the law and paying taxes that go towards mass murder is proper? Obeying the law and allowing government thugs to steal money from us at the point of a gun is proper?

The "law" made the Federal Reserve possible, now they are sinking us into the 2nd Great Depression. Is this "proper"?

The constitution is a nice idea but it did not stop our government from turning into a fascist/socialist authoritarian empire.

Government is simply violent force and is the root cause here. People like this woman just think that if we had the "right" people controlling the violence that everything would be superb. We need to think deeper about the root issues here, that the State itself, the concept of giving a bunch of people a bunch of guns is the root, and not who broke what "law" or some nonsense about an "illegal" war. War is simply mass murder with uniforms on.

Let's define things as they are and we can move this discussion about truth forward.