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Prison Planet: Emergency Official Witnessed Dead Bodies In WTC 7
(Edit - 7/6/2008 - Barry Jennings denies 'seeing' any bodies that he says he stepped over in his statement below. http://911blogger.com/node/16505 -rep.)
Emergency Official Witnessed Dead Bodies In WTC 7
In exclusive video, Barry Jennings discusses explosions in Building 7 before collapse of twin towers
Paul Joseph Watson - Prison Planet - Monday, June 23, 2008
Exclusive video of emergency official Barry Jennings discussing explosions inside WTC 7 before either of the twin towers had collapsed and having to step over dead bodies of victims as he attempted to vacate the building has been released for the first time.
The clip, which was originally intended to feature in Loose Change Final Cut but had to be withdrawn according to Jennings' wishes after he had received threats, has now been made public in anticipation of a BBC documentary about Building 7 which is expected to skew Jennings' account in an attempt to reinforce the official story.
In reality, what Jennings witnessed completely contradicts the official story of what happened to Building 7.
On the morning of 9/11 in his capacity as Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority, Jennings and Michael Hess, who is a founding Partner and Senior Managing Director of Giuliani Partners LLC, visited the Office of Emergency Management inside Building 7 only to find it had been abandoned...
Digg and Article continues...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/062308_dead_bodies.htm
good point
I also thought his account was a little melodramatic.The bit were he says he was dangling from a pole on the stairwell I thought was over the top.
I couldn't agree more. The
Who is marking down the all criticisms?
C'mon, own up. This is ridiculous.
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Don't get DISTRACTED
I'd prefer to focus on Barry Jennings' unanswered question at the end of the video.
"Why that building collapsed in the first place?"
I'd rather not be DISTRACTED with trivial questions like why Mr. Jennings "never mentions breaking the window with a fire extinguisher to cry for help".
The point about concerns
The point about concerns here are not that they distract, but that they tend to discredit him overall. Asking why the building collapsed isn't unique to supporting demolition.
Chapter 24 of Dr. Griffin's
Chapter 24 of Dr. Griffin's new books clears most of this up, its the chapter on WTC 7.
9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press
http://www.amazon.com/11-Contradictions-Letter-Congress-Press/dp/1566567...
In the book, Griffin discovered that Jennings did his 9/11 interview a half mile from WTC 7 at 11:34 AM!
When Jennings went back up to the 8th floor after the explosion, he looked out the windows and saw the towers.
WTC 6 is only 9 stories tall, he could see the towers above that.
Jennings said he couldn't run because of his knees, not that he couldn't stand up and do a TV interview.
There is video of the broken window, so it doesn't matter if he mentions it in every interview.
Jennings said the 2nd plane hit when he was on the 23rd floor.
Jennings left WTC 7 after the 2nd tower fell. He said the firemen were trying to get him at the time of the first collapse, then came back, then the 2nd tower collapsed, and then they got him after that. So he was rescued after 10:28, but before 11:34, probably around 11 AM.
A lot of this stuff is analyzed here:
NIST exploring 9/11 conspiracy theory for WTC-7
http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&...
Other points of interest:
The explosion felt by Jennings is near the area where NIST says "critical failure" of the building occurred. The area is also directly below the "kink" and the east penthouse. It is near the area of the FEMA hotspots, and is near the area where the fire was seen in on floor # 7 from the north face of WTC 7, on the east half.
Jennings was in the east stairwell, which is near the east end of the core and on the north edge of the core.
Thank you for your reasoned
Thank you for your reasoned answer. As for the remainder of the comments, you do the truth movement little good by using the tactics of the OCT supporters - attack the messanger, ingore the message.
1) The issue I have with your response is the following: Exactly were did Griffen get his information? Is there an extended interview with Mr. Jennings where he confirms all of this information? Certainly even I can come up with a timeline like this to support almost any conclusion, that hardly makes it factual.
2) Mr. Jennings says he crawled, not me.
3) Is Mr. Jennings impling that the escalators were damaged? They look fine the video.
4) Where is the massive damage Mr. Jennings is talking about - its not in the video.
5) Where are the bodies Mr. Jennings is talking about - their not in the video either.
Now, before I get hammered here -- if you can't handle questions from the truther - how are you going to handle questions for the other side? If there are easy answers - please provide. Otherwise, keep you attacks to yourself.
All good questions and should be answered under oath..
in a court of law, by way of an independent investigation into 9/11. I think we can all agree with that. Let the world hear Richard Gage's answer to Barry Jennings original question: "why that building fell in the first place?".
I find the man to be credible and his story plausible. You are
focusing on minutia that is immaterial & which has been exaggerated in importance by yourself.
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Your arguments are pretty weak, his testimony is credible
1.) If you were that close to the Towers sight was not required to know when they came down. Even a blind AND deaf person would have known.
2.) Seems like you are trying to make two points here so...
a.) Expressing disbelief is not really an argument. A lot of incredible things happened that day.
b.) In both videos he is standing in one place. People with knee problems can often stand with no problem. It is walking that is difficult.
3.) Watch more eye witness testimony, or try giving some yourself. You will see that when people recount traumatic events, different points seem worth mentioning at different times. Behind every first hand account of that day there is a huge backstory with tons of detail. It is often difficult to tell what is worth mentioning and what is not crucially relevant.
Barry Jennings deserves to be heard. He should be supported as much as possible by the '9/11 truth movement'. Leave it to the 'debunkers' to come up spurious arguments, they will.
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The Audio is mirrored
The Audio is mirrored here:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=102#595
- or -
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/alex/EmergencyOfficialWitnessedDeadBodiesInWTC7.MP3
Big News
Regardless of the criticisms about the way the interview was conducted, this is extremely valuable given Mr. Jennings credibility as a govt. official in the State of New York.. Other interviews can and may be done in the future. Likewise, avenues of corroboration can now be pursued. The Loose Change crew deserves huge credit for their efforts in getting the interview in the first place and Mr. Jennings for his courage to speak out.
For all of you who are critical of the way the interview was conducted, my suggestion is to go find for yourself the fire department workers who came to his aid, interview them yourself and report back to us.
Great work guys.
Credibility does not derive
Credibility does not derive from the fact that he is a NYS Employee (one of 1.2 million). Credibility comes from being consistent and providing information that is accurate. When he includes elements that seem very unlikely to have occured (dangling from pipes, crawling to safety, first-responders not helping him), his credibility is deminished. So based on the facts known and putting aside the completely irrelevent fact that he is a NYS employee, Mr. Jenning's credibility is subject to questioning. However, is is obvious that he was there and did experience some events. I'm just not convinced based on the available "testimony" that infact the explosions occured before the tower(s) fell.
My suggestion is what Peacenik said..go do an interview yourself
I have tremendous admiration for people like the Loose Change crew or Alex Jones or Jack Blood or the Scientists and Architects and Engineers or Scholars or many on Blogger, because they go do the grunt work of research.
When people get critical of how someone else has done research or conducted themselves, my response is "Well, go do what they did." Everyone has the opportunity. Go perform a similar activity. Then comment.
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yo, dude.
Jennings is a New York State employee who was called into the emergency bunker the minute the planes hit the towers. That's an extremely privileged and respected position of authority, hence extremely credible. Wake the f#@k up and listen to WHO is saying WHAT. Using your rationale, that fact that Norman Minetta was Sec of Transportation and in the White House on 9/11 doesn't make HIM credible. Is that what you're saying?
There was a triage set up in
There was a triage set up in the lobby of WTC7. We should not discount the possibility that bodies were left behind when it was evacuated.
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That's an interesting idea
That's an interesting idea but it would seem very surprising.
When you read the accounts of people at the scene from the EMTs,, they were very focused on knowing who lived and died, and the importance of "bodies" being kept intact to identify people and not just leave them in building rubble -- if they believed it was really going to come down -- would be strong. It seems unlikely that EMTs would leave bodies, unless they literally had to run out the door. If this were a real possibility, EMTs could be interviewed, since many of them are known.
I don't have the source in
I don't have the source in front of me, but I believe the "triage" story is based on only one witness, who has been shown to be very unreliable regarding other info he has provided.
This is actually confirmed
This is actually confirmed very early in the
Naudet film. The Chief/Commander (cant remember
which) calls for WTC7 lobby to be used as a triage
center around the same time the second plane hits.
Correct me if I am wrong....
Correct me if I am wrong but isnt the important point that there were dead bodies inside of WTC7- the whole 'Pull it' comment, and people not really caring that WTC7 came down was to the fact that apparently no life was lost inside of WTC7?
The official statement that
The official statement that "no one died in WTC 7" is very important for the coverup. If no one died there, then there is less attention paid to WTC 7. The coverup in unravelling. If you remember the initial news reports on WTC 7, they all make a big deal that it had been evacuated and no one died there.
Yeah- thats what I thought
Yeah- thats what I thought the importance of this statement was.
If no one died there
But if there *was* a triage there, they could use that as an excuse about "bodies," even if it's unlikely EMTs would have left them there. That point should be clarified before any other assumptions are made based on a triage not being there.
At approximately 9:30 a.m.,
At approximately 9:30 a.m., FDNY, EMS established a Division for assisting victims at WTC 7.372 An EMS triage center was
established in the lobby of WTC 7 as occupants from WTC 1 and WTC 6 evacuated through WTC 7.373
At approximately 9:44 a.m., after the report of a third aircraft heading into the city and news that the
Pentagon had been attacked, a Deputy OEM Commissioner ordered the complete evacuation of WTC 7.
(Sheirer 2004) This order included the evacuation of the OEM operations center on the 23rd floor. The
loss of the OEM operations center created difficulties related to the coordination of emergency responder
operations and resources.374 Before the OEM operations center was evacuated, OEM had assigned
personnel to work with each of the emergency responder command posts. This reduced the impact of the
loss of the WTC 7 OEM office. (See Chapter 8.) Occupants evacuating from WTC 7 used both the
elevators and stairways as they left the building.375 Shortly after WTC 7 was evacuated, the FDNY Fire
Commissioner arrived, looking for the Mayor who he believed to be at the OEM center on the 23rd floor.
A guard met the Commissioner in the lobby and ordered him and his staff out of the building. The guard
told him, “This building has been evacuated.” and that “OEM, the mayor, they’re all gone.”
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1-81.pdf
Here's footage of the interior of WTC7 after the first tower collapsed:
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good find. I can't find my
good find. I can't find my source on the alleged WTC 7 triage online, I might have read it in a book, it will come to me.
Its important to note that Barry Jennings was in the WTC 7 lobby at around 11 AM.
So is the government claiming that they left the dead bodies there in the lobby when it was evacuated?
If that's the lobby of WTC-7 after the first tower collapsed,
it's far more damaged that I'd expect.
The south tower collapsed first, and it was at least 600 feet away from WTC-7, with WTC-5 & WTC-6 also in between! So why was there so much damage to WTC-7 at that point in time?
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1) What proof do you have
1) What proof do you have that this was after the first tower collapse? The header on the video states 12:28. Why couldn't it have been after the second tower collapse. There is no timestamp on the video.
2) Lots of damage? Aside from a few broken windows and lots of paper/dust I see no indication of massive damage in the lobby.
3) One of the windows has broken glass that appears to be angled "in", as oppose to "out" as one might expect from an interior explosion.
Again, a lot of conclusions, but were is the backup?
convoluted interview
Is it that hard to ask him directly if the explosions and damage came before the towers collapsed? Its the duty of the interviewer to repeatedly ask him this smoking gun question, this interview is a mess and will be written off by debunkers simply because the smoking gun question was not clearly asked.......it should have been asked several times .............did the explosions and damage happen before the collapses?











The problem I have with this
The problem I have with this interview is the following...
1) When he states that "both buildings were still standing" in the interview, he makes this statement in conjunction with his experience while he is in the stairwell. How exactly would he know the state of the towers at this time? Presumably he is inside of WTC 7 with little visibility of the towers considering he was on the lower floors (8th) and WTC 6 is between WTC 7 and the towers. It's also obvious that he is in the building after the towers collapse because he notes that the fire-department comes into WTC 7 after each collapse (sometime after 9:59 and 10:28 respectively). Why would he still be in WTC 7 half an hour after the first tower collapse?
2) In the interview he states that he had to crawl because of his knees. And no first responder helped him? With dead bodies laying around we are led to believe that a lone survivor (or two) would be left on their own to crawl out of WTC 7. Seems unlikely. In addition, the TV interview, which is given by Jennings, later on certainly shows no indication of his knee problems that cause him to crawl. (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxAuN5lKLio&feature=related)
3) In the interview he never mentions breaking the window with a fire extinguisher to to cry for help, as he describes in the interview link in #2.
Now, it’s not that I don't believe the story. What is troubling is that the interview is poorly constructed to clear up ambiguities, such as the questions described above. This is a common problem with 9/11 truth - even when someone gets a hold of an eyewitness the questioning is very poor. How can one perform an interview like this and not get more detail? "Gee Mr. Jennings, how exactly did you know that the buildings were still standing? When you say buildings are you referring to the twin towers? Do you have an idea of the time of these events? How many bodies did you actually see? Were they plain closed or were they first-responders? When you got to the lobby and it was destroyed, was it covered in dust? Did you leave WTC 7 after before the first tower collapse, after the first tower collapsed or after the second tower collapsed? What route did you take to place where you were interviewed by the TV reporter? How did you hookup again with the person that heard your cries for help? How far did you have to crawl before you started walking again?"