"Well, we can't say conclusively that Al Qaeda is a Western intelligence asset... but it sure looks that way..."

In the "they would never" tone.

I wouldn't detest an apt description Jon- what else was/is it?

How we say that 9/11 WAS an inside job (what is the definition of an "inside job"? Most people thinks it means that the attacks were completely orchestrated from top to bottom, including the news footage, the witnesses, etc... everything, but there are different levels of complicity in my opinion), and then say there are unanswered questions. If there are unanswered questions, then how do we KNOW that "9/11 was an inside job?" My message has evolved over the years to be that they have certainly earned the title of suspect for the crimes of 9/11. They being people in the Bush Administration, other people in our Government, other people in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel, and possibly Britain.

What I think is funny is that over time, we have seen different stories come out that basically validate/reiterate what we have said for a LONG time. That the testimony from KSM was obtained through torture, and discredits what he said. That Philip Zelikow should never have been head of the 9/11 Commission. That NORAD lied. That Flight 93 may have been shot down. That Hani Hanjour probably wasn't the pilot of Flight 77. That Sibel Edmonds allegations are something that should be investigated, and taken seriously. That the FBI's most wanted poster for Osama Bin Laden doesn't list the 9/11 attacks. Yet, sites like Buzzflash, continue to treat US like children.

"How we say that 9/11 WAS an inside job (what is the definition of an 'inside job'?"

In the most general sense, "inside job" means: The 9/11 attacks simply could not have been carried out without the substantial complicity of high-level U.S. government operatives.

"If there are unanswered questions, then how do we KNOW that '9/11 was an inside job?'

Well, just because there are "unanswered questions" doesn't mean there isn't already enough evidence for a reasonable person to come to that obvious conclusion.

Regards,
jpsmith123

... tend to point to official complicity.

Although there is more (MUCH more), all that one really needs to do to understand that 9/11 was an "inside job" is to realize that the only three total skyscraper demises in history could not have resulted from office fires and random damage.

You mean no one planned the most elaborate and successful attacks in a single day, on our own soil in US History? It all just happened? Someone had to plan 9/11. If not a rogue element of the Bush Government, then who? That guy no one can find that lives in a cave somewhere?

... down to the smallest detail. Nothing was left for chance. Or for the whims of some would-be hijackers incapable of flying aeroplanes.

Ace Elevator Company, now conviently non existent, started a big elevator maintenance project in the WTC towers in January 2001, just as Bush became president.

My guess is tha once it was known Bush would be president the plan went into full fledged "going final" operational mode, IMHO.

Do you have sourcing for this Ace elevator claim? The names of the executives there would be a good start.

70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.

In 1993, they worked throughout the disaster trying to get all the people that were stuck in the elevators out. It is considered part of their job to assist in any emergencies that occur in their buildings.

However, in 1994 Otis Elevator lost their contract for the WTC to a new and untested company, Ace Elevator.

Ace Elevator pulled their crews out of the buildings right after the 2nd plane hit, leaving behind 100's of trapped victims.

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The Elevator Man's Tale

Robert Jones

I’m from Montgomery. I work for Ace Elevator.

I originally started down at the trade center in 1973 with Otis Elevator when the towers were just about completed, and I was transferred out of the trade center in ’75. After that I worked for Otis Elevator. I came back to the trade center in ’98, and up ’til September 11 was working as a mechanic on the elevators.

On the morning of September 11 at about a quarter to nine, a partner and I came out of a motor room and walked over to the windows overlooking the Hudson River.

That was on the 43rd floor. And as we turned to walk away, that’s when the first plane hit and we heard the explosion.
We turned to look out, at least I did, turned and looked out over the Hudson and at the other tower, which was nearby, which overlapped B Tower. A Tower was hit first. Within a few seconds, shards of the plane and pieces of the building started to impact B Tower.

You could hear the explosion. You could feel it.

So right after that explosion, we were ordered to leave the building.

There was a story that came out in USA Today that said we all ran out like cowards. The reporter, Dennis Couchin, has been advised as to what had happened and he’s going to rewrite his story. I’m just putting this in right now because I feel it’s necessary, because the men that were there in ’93, most of them, a lot of them were still there.

I regret that we had to leave the building. This is something I still feel a lot of heartache over. And there’s not much we could’ve done. And there is nothing you could do.

http://archive.recordonline.com/adayinseptember/jones.htm

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A.C.E. Elevator Co., Inc., established in 1980, is now celebrating its 20th anniversary. We are proud to be recognized as the largest privately owned Elevator Company in the tri-state area. We continue to serve our valued customers in all aspects of the vertical transportation industry: new installations (traction, hydraulic and escalators), modernizations, service and repairs.

Our offices are strategically located in Palisades Park, NJ and Two World Trade Center, where we are currently modernizing and servicing the entire fleet.

http://www.nycooperative.com/Contractors/elevators.html
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T R O U B L E D C O M P A N Y R E P O R T E R

Thursday, December 30, 2004, Vol. 8, No. 287

A.C.E. ELEVATOR: Taps Rattet Pasternak as Bankruptcy Counsel
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A.C.E. Elevator Co., Inc., asks the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the
Southern District of New York for permission to employ Rattet,
Pasternak & Gordon Oliver, LLP, as its bankruptcy counsel.

Rattet Pasternak will:

a) give the Debtor advice with respect to its powers and
duties as debtor-in-possession in the continued
management of its property and affairs;

b) negotiate with creditors and work out a plan of
reorganization and take the necessary legal steps in
order to effectuate such a plan including, if need be,
negotiations with the creditors and other parties in
interest;

c) prepare the necessary answers, orders, reports and other
legal papers that are required in this proceeding;

d) appear before the Court to protect the interests of the
Debtor and to represent the Debtor in all matters
pending before the Court; and

e) perform all other legal services for the Debtor which
may be necessary for the preservation of the Debtor's
estate and to promote the best interests of Debtor, its
creditors and its estate.

Jonathan S. Pasternak, Esq., is the lead attorney in this chapter
11 proceeding.

http://bankrupt.com/TCR_Public/041230.mbx

I have heard Richard Gage founder of ae 9/11 truth mention this recently in radio interviews.

I think most everyone knows or has a good idea of what an "inside job" is.

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Of being so aggressive other than to start fights?

It's not too specific, which is good, since we don't know the specifics. But we do know, that without massive, coordinated help from the "the inside," 911 could not have taken place.

I bought a T-shirt from Alex Jones that says "911 was an inside job," for just that reason. Communicates quickly and clearly.

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