Dear Mike,

I recommend that you bring on architect Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Contact: http://www.ae911truth.org/contactus.php

You are actually wrong about most of your assumptions about the building collapses of 9/11

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CONTACT MIKE
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Mike McConnell demonstrates profound intellectual dishonesty in this interview. At least he didn't start yelling and cutting off Alten's mic, but this interview was a pathetic excuse for debate. This interview made me so mad I don't even know what to write. WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOME BALLS???? Call these motherfuckers out on their obvious bullshit. If this Steve Alten is to be the new spokeperson for the movement he better brush up on his facts and stick to the most basic facts and not get swayed by the person he is debating. He took every piece of bait McConnell gave him. He needs to realize when he is being baited and know how to get back on track. Pulverized concrete, building 7, freefall speed, pieces of steel flung 400 feet laterally, molten metal, ground zero being the longest commercial fire in history, burned for 99 days, not one frame of video showing a plane at the pentagon. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT STEVE!!! If you are going to talk about wargames at least brush up on all the different types of wargames and demonstrate how out of the ordinary it was. If you are going to talk about the Phoenix and Minneapolis FBI agents KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!! You just let him shut down your perfectly legitimate arguments because you didn't bring up enough facts and in the eyes of his audience he is right and you are a misguided believer in false facts. I know it is easier said than done but this Mike McConnell would have been an easy target for anyone with some balls and some self-righteousness. YOU SHOULD KNOW YOU ARE RIGHT AND SHOULDN'T TOLERATE FOR ONE SECOND THIS IGNORAMUS TRYING TO TELL YOU "HOW IT REALLY IS." I still say Jesse Ventura is the best spokeperson we have. Sorry for the rant sometimes I feel I am going crazy waiting for a 9/11 spokeperson who can actually break through the bullshit we face.

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government. -Declaration of Independence, 1776

...was awesome.

What a great voice for the truth - poised and sincere.

Things are looking up.

Per Michael Ruppert

CIA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR "BUZZY" KRONGARD MANAGED FIRM THAT HANDLED "PUT" OPTIONS ON UAL
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html

"A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard - The current Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency is the former Chairman of the investment bank A.B. Brown and former Vice Chairman of Banker's Trust.

John Deutch - This retired CIA Director from the Clinton Administration currently sits on the board at Citigroup, the nation's second largest bank, which has been repeatedly and overtly involved in the documented laundering of drug money. This includes Citigroup's 2001 purchase of a Mexican bank known to launder drug money, Banamex."

Mr. Alten still needs a lot of training if he is going to be effective in countering standard tactics and arguments used in interviews.

STILL not ready for prime time.

Jiminy Crickets!

That was painful.

(Did he really say that SEVEN came down in 10 to 15 seconds? Did he really let that SCOOP bs get by?)

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

I'm trying to find (and can't) the estimated audience of Mike McConnell's radio show? If anyone knows a way to get this information I'd like to know. Peace.

The PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses," with the infamous "catalyzing event" quote, was published ONE YEAR (not in the mid 90s) before September 11.

Building 7 came down in 6.7 Seconds.

Even FEMA (IIRC) said that the twin towers came down in +/-10 seconds.

If I'm wrong about any of that, hopefully someone will correct me.

Someone should contact (not overwhelm) Steve with best talking points and best facts for rebutting false claims. I'm sure he would appreciate knowing there are a lot of people out here who have his back.
I say not overwhelm because if we all send him one email, he won't be able to process it all.
I'm sure there is someone better qualified than me for the job. Any volunteers?
I know he responds to personal emails because I sent one and received a brief personal thank you.
Here. meg82159@aol.com

So much for 'Week of Truth'. That's the risk of having newcomers come forth to speak. Quite frankly, they are weak on the facts. I noticed this with Ventura who despite reading '16 books' on the subject gets so many basic facts wrong. People should just stick to the physical evidence. That's the easiest way of avoiding the fact quagmire and that includes Mr. Alten.

I appreciate all of your comments and will "study up." Please understand, I am not an activist, nor am I trying to present myself as one. I am an author attempting to bring 911 Truth to the mainstream media. While I may not be anywhere near as in command of the information as many of you, I dare say most if not all of you have never appeared on TV or radio before. Sometimes you get 3-5 minutes to get your points across. You can't come out swinging sledgehammers like many of you want me to, or else you sound like a wacko...which is precisely what they want. Nor can you get sidetracked by details that pull you off point. My goal is to keep it SIMPLE and NON-COMBATIVE while expressing certain key points that are factual. For me, the keys are INTELLIGENCE WARNINGS, FRASCA, WARGAMES, PUT ORDERS, and WTC 7.

My interview with Mike McConnell was scheduled for 10 minutes. We went nearly a half an hour because I was able to keep things going without sounding insulting or becoming irrational. I refused to allow him to coerce me and pulled him back to certain points, but I also had to quell him at certain points just to keep from being disconnected (10 seconds vs 15 seconds...who cares? It still violates the laws of inertia and would NOT have collapsed). Remember, this guy is as radical as Limbaugh and he already has his mind made up. So I needed to appear rational to his listeners so he can't effectively label me a nutjob. Remember, it's his LISTENERS I want to affect, not him! He's not going to debate Richard Gage. He's all about bulldozing guests.

Finally, I have learned that there is no way in heaven or hell I will ever appease everyone involved in this movement. So let's be clear: I didn't write the book for you, I wrote it because I love my country and I hate what these neocon assholes are doing to us. If you at least agree with that, then maybe you can support my efforts. I certainly support yours.

--Steve Alten

but he's not prepared for a practiced grilling.

Did you catch that at the very end, after Alten was not longer on air, when McConnell referred to Alten as "whack jobs like that who know how to type"?

It's remote that anyone who listens to someone like McConnell -- personally I'd never heard of him before this -- would be promising recruit material for 9/11 truth anyway.

Strange how McConnell says he doesn't interview novelists, but is making an exception here because there are 9/11 truth groups promoting the book. Huh? I'd think that, if McConnell is interested in the politics of 9/11 truth, he'd then have on prominent 9/11 truth activists or researchers, not the novelists he disregards.

Yet -- and I could be wrong about this -- I get the distinct impression that this is about the only time McConnell has had on a 9/11 truther: articulate, but unsure of his facts and rationale, Steve Alten. Why not a veteran scholar, a David Ray Griffin, a Jim Hoffman, a Steven Jones, a Richard Gage, a Barrie Zwicker, a Paul Zarembka, a Ken Jenkins, a Graeme MacQueen, a Nafeez Ahmed?

The answer, of course, is that McConnell knows how to spot those whose grasp of the facts and of argumentation is shaky enough to be slapped down by rapid-fire, rehearsed polemical sophistry. (I was struck, for example, with how Alten dropped the ball on Pearl Harbor. First of all, Pearl Harbor wasn't a false flag attack: It was a real Japanese attack that had been surreptitiously provoked and then allowed to proceed unimpeded. Unfortunately, that whole concept is probably too hard to make properly and convincingly in the context of the brief sound bites of a hyped-up radio show, so it's probably best left unmentioned. Moreover, Alten then lets McConnell get away with saying it's been thoroughly debunked, like that's that. No mention of Robert Stinnett's definitive research, for example.) It's like those Popular Mechanics staffers who debated the then-callow filmmakers of the original Loose Change, but somehow don't care to take on the likes listed above.

I wonder if it wasn't a strategic miscalculation for 9/11 truth to be promoting The Shell Game so heavily. Sure, it's fine for genre fiction readers to read it, but it may disserve us to be associated so much with an independent novelist who hasn't done his homework thoroughly and whose agenda is as much this whole thing with "peak oil" and a specific prediction about a future false flag event as with the nature of 9/11 truth. (Of course if Alten false flag prediction proves correct, that'll turn out to have been useful, but it seems very risky.)

I think Steve did a fine job, keeping his cool like that. Thanks to his appearance I'm sure there are conservative listeners who will investigate 9/11 more now than they ever would have before. And even if he is a right wing bully, a tip of the hat to the host for even letting Steve on, and for a whole half hour!

And I have seen a debunking site where there is a stopwatch going while bldg 7 falls and it does seem to fall slower than many truthers say. If we say "nearly" free fall I think we can still make the point that we need.

...we all appreciate what you have done for the movement. You are helping to bring the movement to the mainstream. My only qualm is that this week of truth is being pushed so that your book gets sold and you go on tv and talk about 9/11 truth. If you are not fully prepared, if you take every piece of bait they give you, if you stumble on facts or even worse misrepresent them, you make 9/11 truth less plausible in the eyes of the viewing public, which negates the whole point of truth week. This blowhard repeatedly misrepresented the facts and you let him get away with it. Building 7 did not fall in 15 seconds, but instead of calling him on his factual error, you said "what's the difference." To us, who know 15 seconds would still be too fast, we know it doesn't matter. But to all the un-initiated, when you said 15 or 9 seconds (both of which are wrong) is just a matter of semantics, you lost them all. Instead, you should have stuck to your guns, known exactly, to the millisecond, how fast building 7 fell. You should also know exactly how fast the twin towers fell. This is so you don't take their bait, you will be able to steer the conversation in the way you want it to go, at the same time demonstrating you are the expert on the subject and they are completely unaware of the basic facts. That is how you will win with these neo-con shills. Everyone here wants you to succeed Steve, because your success is our success.

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government." -The Declaration of Independence, 1776

I think Steve did a good job..... that's about as good as it's going to get without being in the host's presence with the evidence and witnesses.... this clown would argues over Richard Gage or Steven Jones just the same...

1 thing I'm interested in.... Steve, do you think it's possible peak oil is a scam just like 9/11 ?

Lindsay Williams has a 1st hand account that peak oil is a scam and I would like to here your counter...