If you ask me, i do think there is a whistleblower at the NTSB based on my experience of working hundreds of hours pouring over this data. I just wish he/she would contact us... we can keep him/her anonymous.

Thanks for the vote up troops...

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Rob
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Nice compliment you gave Aidan M. on your forum

Aidan does excellent work. I wish to know more about the man... but i think he prefers to be more private. Either way, much respect to him and his obvious experience level and knowledge of the FOIA.

My opinion? I think hes a lawyer. Speaking of which... When will we see a "Lawyers For 9/11 Truth"? I can already predict the ad homs from the "Duh-Bunkers". :rolleyes:

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Rob
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Lets all of us continue to apply pressure upon this government until we can obtain an investigation with subpoena powers.

Time is short.

Actually, I was educated and employed for a while as an electronics engineer.

My FOIA lawsuit is still developing with the FBI to obtain the docs that prove that they positively ID'd the wreckage. Serving 2 U.S. Attorney's, the Attorney General and the FBI, takes time. Then the FBI has so many days to respond so they may take full advantage of every one.

I'm worried that an announcement of a KSM trial and the possibility of a Moussaui retrial may be taken advantage of by the FBI to continue holding this footnote info that would just happen to prove their claims.

I dont expect that I or anyone will ever see the docs I'm requesting because I suspect that the serial numbers obtained from the wreckage did not match the serial number data on file with the FAA. If forced to produce the info, I think we'd find out that the government destroyed that docs, just as they did the Able Danger data.

The FBI seems to have both ends of the information: 1). Info obtained from the wreckage. 2). Info on file with the FAA. I think the reason that the FAA provided me with it's unlawful response to the request for info is because the FBI probably seized the records and stll has them.

Perhaps WAC can obtain a Q&A segment with the FBI's Robert Mueller.

; )

This could be the grand-daddy of contradictions. Another vote-up for you, Rob. Could you provide a little more info on exactly how the NTSB report contradicts the official story? Does the NTSB say where they found the Flight Data Recorder for Flight 77? And how it is at odds with the official story.

This is something that Kucinich should look into, as well as the NYC group if the ballot initiative passes. Good work, Rob!

Just click around, mainly our Press Releases.

By the way, Kucinich gets every article/presentation/documentary/blurb we publish through our media contacts list which includes numerous alternative and MSM contacts.

For the record, Alternative media such as Alex Jones and Air America has not touched any of our work. Might want to call in to ask why? We expect to be shunned by MSM, after all, they didnt even cover the release of the NTSB animation based on (what tthe NTSB claims) actual flight data. But i didnt think AJ or AAR would turn a blind eye. Not sure why.

Meh, we're growing regardless. Eventually, no one will be able to ignore it. Just picked up a CEO of an Aviation Corporation who also has command time in the aircraft dispatched as UA93 and UA175. Keep an eye out for the announcement in the near future.

Regards,
Rob
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"For the record, Alternative media such as Alex Jones and Air America has not touched any of our work. Might want to call in to ask why?"

Probably because they know the Pentagon issue is a honey pot. Sorry, but 9/11 has long been proven an inside job, but no-plane at the Pentagon relies on speculation that vast amounts of evidence were faked including hundreds of recorded witness statements, plane parts including landing gear, light pole damage, and more.

Alex Jones:

“For over four years we have remained neutral on the subject, agreeing that unanswered questions need to be explored but warning against the Pentagon issue becoming the core focus of the 9/11 truth movement. The danger is clearly that the government will use its media mouthpieces in particular Fox News to hype this until it becomes the de facto keystone of alternative explanations behind 9/11. At the point when that crescendo reaches its peak crystal clear footage of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon will be released, knocking down the straw man argument that the establishment itself erected. The government is steam valving this issue so as to garner as much interest as possible before blowing the entire matter out of the water. We know for a fact that the FBI seized the gas station camera footage and footage from hotels across the highway which would show the entire sequence of events and prove exactly what happened at the Pentagon. The fact that they have again chosen to release grainy and foggy images which only lead to more speculation tell us two things.

Why no discussion of Building 7 and the comments of Larry Silverstein? Why no discussion of the hijackers being trained by the US government? Lt. Colonel Steve Butler of the Monterey Defense Language Institute was suspended from duty after he accused Bush of allowing 9/11 to happen. Why no discussion of the NORAD stand down? Because none of these issues are honey pots, none of them are speculation because the cards are laid out on the table for everyone to see and the evidence is clear.”

Pentagon Video Is Giant Psy-Op: Intended to create circus of interest around 'no plane' theories, later debunk them:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/160506giantpsyop.htm
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They dont have to put their name, faces and professional reputations on the work. We do. Matter of fact, we record the FBI and NTSB. With our real names!. All they have to do is report it. They have the audience. Why not report it if it has no bearing on their own credibility?

The fact that MSM hasnt even mentioned the release of the data speaks volumes when they report Mike Wilsons fabricated animation based on zero flight data.. I dont expect you to understand Arab. But other aviation professionals do. Its probably why we are growing rapidly and you remain behind your screen attacking others.

However, even if AJ and others dont want to cover AA77 FDR due to it being a "honeypot".. Whats the excuse for UA93 FDR, Common Strategy, our concern with Pilot/hijacker experience level and the numerous other articles/interviews we have published?

Regards,
Rob
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...apparently quoting a Alex Jones article in response to your statement is an "attack" these days...

The MSM has ignored a lot of 9/11 questions, but one of the questions that they have repeatedly highlighted is the no-plane at the Pentagon issue, as Alex Jones explained. Criticism is not an "attack". It's unfortunate that some choose to spin it that way.

The RADES radar data shows no flyover. There are no witnesses. How much more evidence is necessary? The video? None of the videos released show any hint of a flyover (http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/11/pentagon-flyover-theory-rip.htm...), and one of them was on a highway in perfect view to potentially capture it--at the very least witness it with his fellow in-traffic potential witnesses. Sure, I'd like them to release all of the videos so I don't have to be accused of "supporting the official story" when a plane impact has no "impact" on 9/11 being an inside job, with much more important questions to be answered (that the MSM is ignoring) and even more pressing smoking guns leaving a trail.
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Do you have any concerns why MSM would cover an animation fabricated by an independent researcher not based on any flight data whatsoever yet refuse to cover an animation produced by the NTSB based on what they claim is flight data? Does this not concern you? Especially considering it is unprecedented? Would you care to stick to topic?

This thread is not about witnesses, flyover.. .etc. This is about MSM Blackout based on what the govt claims is flight data. Can you address the topic?

Every single blog i post, you always trot out the same exact spun up tripe, Even in our UA93 FDR Blog, completely off-topic. You avoid questions, Your agenda is clear, your tactics are getting stale.

People have to ask themselves, Why are so many people putting their name, faces and professional reputations on our work. If anyone will get answers from the govt, it will be those listed at http://patriotsquestion911.com. The only thing Arabesque has contributed are posts on Blogger and his own blog, anonymously from behind his screen, in order to influence thinking and the tide of the "movement". Will Arabesque ever get answers from the govt? No! He refuses to put his name on his work, refuses to go out into the field to film on location as CIT, uses statements found on the web, some fabricated, some completely spun. Uses absence of evidence as evidence of absence (which in fact is intellectually dishonest because there are witnesses who claim a plane 'peeled away' at time of explosion, Arabesque conveniently omits this little tidbit in every one of his spun up comments, and we constantly have to remind him/her/it. ). Think about that.

Arabesque, i had my doubts about your objective in the past. Each time you post, your objective becomes more clear.

Regards,
Rob

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It seems to me there might be a much simpler explanation for withholding the videos of Flight 77:

Flight 77 maneuvered in an extremely difficult way as it came in toward the Pentagon. Civilians, mentally unprepared for a jetliner charging down into the city like that, apparently but understandably missed that peculiar maneuvering, a dead giveaway that this almost certainly couldn't have been a case of some half-baked pilot at the controls (as the official account would lead us to conclude).

Release of the videos would lay that bare.

So what was it: Concealing the odd jet maneuvering, or setting up the 9/11 truth movement for a fall by getting it to falsely suspect that it wasn't a real jet at all coming in?

At this juncture, I give equal weight to either thesis.

Mineta's testimony is just a small piece of the evidence implicating that what happened is indeed what happened. Potentially if we got an investigation, we could put him and others (i.e. Cheney, the Manager at the FAA that Mineta was talking to on the phone about the incoming plane, the young man, other witnesses, etc.) under oath to get at the truth. The worst that can happen is that his testimony is completely false. But guess what--it doesn't change the fact that air traffic controllers were aware of the incoming plane. It doesn't change the fact that the FAA notified NORAD about these planes. And it doesn't change the fact that nothing was done about it. All of this is extensively documented and only SUPPORTS mineta's testimony. If his testimony did not exist it would not discount this other evidence.

So your honey pot theory doesn't hold much weight.
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Rob--

9/11 truth hasn't been tolerated on Air America for some time. For example, yesterday Air America's Bill Press admonished a caller who hinted at LIHOP that "we don't ever go there" and cut her off. Ed Schultz openly ridicules 9/11 truth callers. In the past I've heard AAR's Thom Hartmann and Randi Rhodes discuss 9/11 truth. I don't know about lately. My guess is that AAR has made clear to its hosts that 9/11 truth is an embargoed topic, as it is on most other for-profit broadcast outlets.

Mike Malloy is probably the guy you want. He's on Nova M radio. Nova M's flagship station is 1480 KPHX, Phoenix, AZ. Malloy is scathingly hilarious; you'd probably like his show. He used to discuss 9/11 truth regularly when he was on Air America. But then they fired him...go figure.

Best,
Jeff

I have exchange emails with Thom and spoken with Randi on air. Both seemed very interested in our work. Matter of fact, we picked up quite a few members from the Randi Rhodes on air call in. Lasted only ~3 mins. Randi seemed very interested. But hasnt shown any interest since. They both are on our media contact list and get every article.. etc. Lionel is on the list too... Never heard from him.

Regards,
Rob
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Mike Malloy 's website is mikemalloy.com. The site shows his e-mail address as mike@mikemalloy.com. I don't think you can go wrong by contacting him.

Jeff

I have added him to our media contact list and emailed him this blog entry. However, the best way to break this information into mainstream, is for all of you to call in to shows and ask the host if they checked out our work. Remember, it is our name on the line, not yours.. .so dont try to debate the information.. just keep asking them why they havent covered the information or contacted us. Be sure to tell them they can see our documentaries for free on google as many disinfobots like to use the excuse we're just trying to make money off DVD sales.

With that said, we are trying to raise funds to stay in orperation through our sales. A very trying task when faced with accusations of "being in it for the money". Perhaps part of cointel design. Imagine if patriot groups had the budget of Fox or CNN. Im sure the world wouldnt be in this mess.

Anyhow.... Thanks for Mike's contact info and your support.

Regards,
Rob
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