WeAreChangeLA Reaches Out to the Simon Wiesenthal Center over Weitzman HR1955 Presentation

Towards the end of 2007, WeAreChangeLA reached out to the SImon Wiesenthal Center regarding the testimony by Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center before Jane Harman's Congressional Committee. Mr Weitzman gave a presentation to the committee in support of H.R. 1955 where he positioned the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth website as an "incubator of 9/11 conspiracies and disinformation."

Being that the Wiesenthal Center has not replied to Richard Gage AIA's call for a public retraction of Mark Weitzman's presentation implicating Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth as an "incubator of 9/11 conspiracies and disinformation," it is well overdue that this video was put into the public domain and followed up on. Space was given for the parties directly involved to come forth and handle this in a forward and respectful manner, and, to date, the silence is deafening. Meanwhile, the already overwhelming prima facie case for controlled demolitions in Lower Manhattan on 9-11-01 is only growing stronger ( http://www.911blogger.com/node/13608 ), and the threat of a War on Iran, severe economic downturn and/or another false-flag terrorist act still looms.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center is currently on the wrong side of wisdom, morality and history at this crucial point in time when the threat of global holocaust is very real. Over a million human lives have been ended prematurely so far in the Global War of Terror, an overwhelmingly anti-semitic operation. Jewish peoples are connected through the blood of Abraham and traditions of the Book, as half brothers and sisters of the Arab peoples. We have a deep responsibility to stop this holocaust before it is completely out of control.

The comparisons between Germany's tragic descent into Nazi Fascism during the 1930s and the United States of America's current rapid decline into Fascism are frightening when you consider the false flag operation of 9-11, the direct attack against the Constitution with the Patriot Act, and the hundreds of FEMA camps (fully staffed, yet empty prison camps all over our great nation sitting there waiting... waiting for what?). It seems natural that the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which claims to take the high moral ground, should support the efforts by patriotic American citizens to prevent sinister forces from achieving their goals for an imperial empire horendously more powerful and harmful to the civilized world than Nazi Germany.

"Never again."

Very Good!

I like the phrase: "truth is not a popularity contest!"

Wow...

very good job Shumonik! I really liked how you stayed calm and poised. Plus, I thought the points you brought up were really solid.

I emailed and called all the Simon Weisenthal Centers in the Wor

I emailed and called all the Simon Weisenthal Centers in the World to request that they issue a public press release saying they did NOT mean that Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth were meant to be included in their hate sites presentation.

1st I called the man who made the Congressional presentation. I explained that my father served in several years of front line combat in WWII and suffered from PTSD for his whole life, as did our entire family suffer with him. I explained to the man that my father was in the 45th Infantry, the first Army division in to liberate the Dachau death camp. I explained that my family did not have an anti-semetic bone in our bodies, and that I was an AE911Truth.org supporter since its inception, and it wasn't anti-semetic either.

The man hung up on me, when I insisted they issue a clarifying press release.

We need to get these stories into the MAINSTREAM MEDIA. Yes, the internet and youtube are powerful tools, and all should keep using them and doing what they are doing.

BUT, we have to find creative opportunities to break through the corporate media blockade on 9/11 issues.

There is someone who has the potential of reaching the mainstream media, who is a 9/11 truth movement defender. I would be glad to discuss this opportunity . . . but some members are putting pressure on 911blogger to keep me from talking about this opportunity, so I can't talk about it.

Thank you for all you've done

I know you've contributed alot of time and energy to this movement over the years.

Maybe if you drew up a plan of tactics or a strategy that you think would be effective in attaining what you see as possible around the Shell Game, people would be more open to it.

I think everybody around here knows about the Shell Game by now and has made an assessment of what its possibilities are. Many people haven't read the book yet and some won't.

This is a very diverse movement, and not everybody will agree with the tactic of using fiction to introduce people to a subject with such real-life consequences. In my eyes, there are clearly people that can be reached through this medium that won't be reached through a lecture, non-fiction book or DVD. And if

Though I haven't had the time nor the chance to read the Shell Game, I think it's a very good opportunity that Mr Alten and his book are contributing to the 9-11 truth and JUSTICE movement.

And the list of websites on the shellgame.net website is a good tool to introduce his readers into the movement.

Some people are concerned that this book presents a limited hangout of sorts:

1. The fact that the centerpiece of the 9-11 murders, the controlled demolitions, is apparently not brought into his story, even though his scenario, of the attempt to false-flag nuke an American city, was precursored and hinted at by the massive destruction scene in lower Manhattan on 9-11.

possible solution: Mr. Alten commits to bringing up the CD evidence, especially the recent paper involving the high heat, when he gets interviews.

2. The deep state in Israel has a history with artificing these types of high profile international terrorist attacks with Arab patsies.
Being a supporter of Israel (a Zionist), like myself, Mr. Alten has an extra responsibility to call out the Zionist Extremists and/or Supremacists that have clearly gripped that government as much as a shadow government has gripped our American government, and the facts that point an Israeli role in 9-11.

possible solution: Mr. Alten grapples with the facts surrounding these statements, such as the 10-10-01 arrest of Israeli operatives with explosives in the Mexican Parliament and does not shy away from talking about this.

More later....

But why the Obsession?

"I know you've contributed alot of time and energy to this movement over the years."

Agreed. I don't think anyone should question that.

And I hope Alten is sincere, and I think the book may be important. Still, I also would like to know why this link is on the back cover:

www.ObsessiontheMovie.com

One of Alten's "many 9/11 truth links" in his book...

www.ObsessiontheMovie.com

Some info on the "Obsession" for those who don't remember Faux News & the Neocons hyping it in 2006.

"Fox is showing the documentary “Obsession, Radical Islam’s War Against the West” four times this pre-election weekend"

"The hour-long film was non-stop footage of various jihadist groups making anti-American and anti-Israeli statements. The translations of the jihadists were provided by Middle East Media Research Institute which, according to Source Watch, is connected to Israeli intelligence organizations and Christian evangelicals and is funded in part by the right wing Olin Foundation."

"E.D. explained that Islamic Radicals are the “new Nazis and they want you dead.” She claimed that Islamic Jihad is the “most deadly threat of our times” and noted that “we here at Fox believe every American should know” about this."

"E.D.’s interview with the producer, Wayne Kopping, included a question regarding the funding of the movie, to which Kopping responded that it was “completely independent.” (Comment: Kopping is a very devout Jew who has also done a very pro-Israel movie “Relentless.” Shouldn’t E.D.have asked him about his “objectivity” in doing a movie about Islam?)"
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/11/05/obsession_is_more_than_a_perfume.php

From the reviews it's receiving the 'Shell Game' differs very little from the Islamophobic propagand of "Obsession".

Thank you

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Excellent Guys!!!!

Perfect! The guy even got curious. He will check out aefor911truth.

The center is told what to say

The Simon Wiesenthal Center is told what to say in the interest of there supporters.
There could be an argument on who could be charged for 911 crimes and promotion of the 911 wars Ir
Lets take a look at some people who support the The Simon Wiesenthal Center and participated in 911 cover up and also the war on Terror
Larry (lucky) Silverstein , Eisenberg, Frank and Peter Lowy , Ariel Sharon Henry Kissinger, Iran-Contra felon Elliot Abrams, Eliot Cohen, Meyrav and David Wurmser, David Frum, Abram Schulsky , Donald, Fred, and Robert Kagan, Steve Rose, William Kristol Norman Pod-Whoretz, David Horowitz, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Abraham Foxman, Mortimer Zuckerman Charles Krauthammer, Wolfgang Blitzer, Martin Indyk, Joseph Lieberman, Irving Lewis “Scooter” Liebovitz Jane Harman, Charles Schumer, Jerome Hauer, Maurice Greenberg, Jeffrey Greenberg, Michael Chertoff, Dominic Suter, Philip Zelikow, Dov Zakheim.

Just to mention a few people that would want the Government to have all of us arrested. And are ardenent suppoters of The Simon Wiesenthal Center.

His body language says a lot...

You can't help but notice his tightly crossed arms and swaying back and forth as if to say "Go away with this nonsense. I don't have to answer your questions!"

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Voltaire

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

Thank you so much for this video. I have been waiting for this..

John A MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE,

Bonsoir ,

Thank you so much for this video. I have been waiting for this interview since the 27th of November 2007
http://911blogger.com/node/12677#comment-170032
Great work and kept it clean and polite. This guy is going to have nightmares over his presentation ! So he says send it in. Film what you are sending him and the deposit direct to the center's secretary to be sure there is no problem with the post and they can not say that it did not arrive !
After a time ask them for an other interview with some one who is not just a caretaker. As was said the 911 truth is not going to go disappear
Last Saturday night ( 02/02/2008 ) we here in France had a www.reopen911.info meeting and we discussed this problem a lot. We are going to work on it here in France. If you want a report on it contact me at mouv4x8@club-internet.fr

Cordialement

John

you're welcome, but that's not Weitzman

Weitzman is in the New York office of the Wiesenthal Center, so the NY Change group would have to do that if it's possible.

This was Rick Eaton, one of their LA public relations people. Maybe we can further this dialogue and see if we can get a phone interview with Weitzman.

Will do on documenting a letter sent to them.

GRATITUDE

John,
I just want to take a moment and thank you for your work with this movement.
We here in America are very grateful that our brothers and sisters across the globe are as concerned as we are, and are working to the same ends.
Please continue to keep us posted on your progress.
Sincerely,
Zonk

ditto that gratitude for sure

Yes the international reach and presence of this movement is very inspiring! thank you for your work on the other side of the Atlantic John.

Huh

Interesting the interviewee's stance -- crossed arms, head pulled back as if the entire conversation was repugnant to him.

To this guy's statement: "you know, you can feel free to write a letter and my boss and I will discuss it." I think I would have said "oh, you'll deal with any letter or discuss it just like was done to the letter Richard Gage sent? That one was ignored. Will you ignore this one too?"

Him stating "send a letter" is a complete joke.

Thank you

Both did a great job in explaining how wrong it is to associate us with terrorists and bigots, and his answers on that were completely unpersuasive. Also, good point that not only are there knowledgable people who say there is good reason to believe this happened, but millions of Americans believe it and that alone requires that these issues be seriously addressed. The comparisons to Germany descent into fascism were , and Rick acknowledged at that end that if true, this would be very concerning.

I have a little doubt about mentioning FEMA camps, but I don't know whether there is evidence to support that so I could be wrong. It's just hard to believe. But Germans would have thought so too. They thought they were free.

Can I ask - is one of the people in the film Shumonik?

Thank you

Yeah the FEMA camps weren't what I wanted to focus on, but it was good that they were brought up I think in terms of making the resonant case for the proto-fascist slide that we are in. I think there is documentation of detention centers built by Halliburton. Will include that in a letter.

Yeah, I Shumonik am Jeremy, the dark haired dude with the beard.

I think that we should personally invite representatives of the Wiesenthal Center to come to the Gage, Jones, McKinney event later this month and see who their organization associated with disinformation and terrorism.

Thought so

You're as impressive on video as in writing. It's great to know you're out there asking these people questions. It can't be easy, and i appreciate it.

BE PREPARED

Great job guys, but I just want to offer a suggestion to you and all others who personally confront those who deny the truth….be prepared.
There was far too much discussion about exactly what was said and by whom. An in-hand transcript of the Weisenthal Center presentation would have settled the question immediately.

And I can’t help remembering this challenge to the slithery NIST shill who denied ever hearing about molten steel beneath the site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v36bkCB8sTY&feature=related

I kept wishing that when the snake said he had never seen or heard of such a thing, the questioner could whip out his laptop and say, “Yes sir, I have it right here, let’s watch it together.”

I know it is impossible to carry around citations on every point, inconsistency, fact and question our movement has raised over the past few years, but I really feel that documentation will prove to be invaluable in these efforts, and I urge all those who venture out to try and arm themselves with proof which is hard to deny. And if your target is specific, like the two cited above, then it is indeed possible to have material at hand which will defuse these pitiful attempts at disinformation.

Once again, great job guys, and keep at it.

Good advice

thank you. Yeah, I wasn't as well prepared for this as I should have been. Working on tightening up and developing the different aspects of the truth squad is crucial.

continued actions

calling those who ally themselves with the interests of the american fascist movement on their actions and political efforts , especially those who seek to keep the integrity necessary to steward museums of intolerance and a face of fairness and truth and to keep their organsations with at least a veneer of rightousness ..........................perhaps now will begin to think before they slander............., stay tuned...........!

the weisenthal center has lost credibility , let us see what they do to regain it. or whether they consider their reputation ,this betraylal of free speech 'acceptable losses" for the agenda they promoted that shameful day before congress.