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Ron Paul Interviewed By Glenn Beck on CNN PT.6 12-18-07

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Beck reminds us again that we are a dangerous as group, ( 9/11 Truth movement ) how did he arrive at thinking that conclusion?


The 9/11 Truth Movement...

Made Ron Paul. Also, no one I know condones sending Glenn Beck death threats. I wonder which 9/11 Truth Movement he's referring to.


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Beck the Hypocrite...

While no one is our movement condones death threats on anyone...the same does not hold true for Mr. Beck.
It was not that long ago that Glenn Beck openly called for Michael Moore's death and pontificated whether or not he should be the one to do it. Had only Ron Paul known that and challenged Beck on that it would have made for an interesting response. Don't worry too much about Ron's current polling numbers, Jimmy Carter and John Kerry were both polling at under 5% before the first primaries.

Peace Out
winnipegtruther

Richard D. Brinkman

Richard D. Brinkman www.edmonton911truth.com

BECK CAN HURL DEATH THREATS FREELY BUT someone who threatens Glenn who's most likely a provocateur agent or disruptor of the 911 truth movement and Beck carelessly groups us all as dangerous and by that endangering our lives; ( Thanks for spreading your way of peace for the holidays Beck) CNN is the one who's dangerous by promoting hate, racism and terrorism by allowing this nut case (SICK TWISTED FREAK, RODEO CLOWN, RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC and NON JOURNALIST) to have a mike and audience...Very irresponsible to National Security Time Warner...What is your reason for this?

"who's most likely a

"who's most likely a provocateur agent or disruptor"

^ Exactly.

"who's most likely a

"who's most likely a provocateur agent or disruptor"

^ Exactly."

I fear this might eventually snowball into an active government campaign. Have agent disruptors hidden among us and at a pre-chosen time hurl out obscenities and other things to discredit our movement in the eyes of the sleepwalking public. If the ante is actually upped, will our response be proportionate? Are we ready to meet logistical challenges?

Agents provocateurs

Follow the example of this guy at the SPP meeting at Montebello Quebec. Confront and expose the traitors within.

There is an american who is not scared to say what he thinks ...

John A MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE

bonjour ,

There is an american who is not scared to say what he thinks and has already paid a lot for his courage.
Speaks well, is intelligent , honest , human and an icone for the 911 mouvement. You know who I mean ? The one that for years who has stuck her guns despite everything we have put against here !

In case you do not know I will tell you : vote for Cynthia McKinney

Yours John

I'm getting sick of being told to have faith in Ron Paul

Faith is for religions.

If he wants my vote he'll have to work for it, just like anyone else.

Ron Paul used the truth movement as a base for his campaign. Then he told us to keep quiet and stay away so we don't hurt his chances. Now he openly disparages us. Ron Paul supporters tell me that he is the most honest man ever and then in the same breath they explain why he has to lie about 9/11. "First we have to get him elected." If he can openly talk about dismantling all these government institutions how is it that he can't acknowledge that millions of Americans rightfully have serious questions regarding 9/11?

Being cagey is one thing - openly disrespecting those of us who are fighting for truth is another.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

There is no reason for having faith in Ron Paul...

Daryl Bradford Smith, wether you like him or not, has just outed Ron Paul for writing a book together with Lewis Lehrman in 1993:"The case for gold"
Lewis Lehrman is at the Board of Directors of Project for the New American Century!

Sounds familiar does't it?
BTW: Returning to the gold standard doesn 't change one thing as gold is controlled by the same people who brought us 9/11. The power to issue money should belong to the GOVERNMENT, not to private companies.

...and Glenn Beck...he makes me vomit!

Returning to the gold standard is a step in the right direction

Right now our currency is issued & regulated by the Federal Reserve Bank--a private, for profit organization! It is a huge scam that charges us interest for our own money. This interest is then paid back mainly via the illegal income tax regulations. Moreover, our dollar is no backed-up by gold, nor anything else. It's basically a risky, worthless IOU.

Critique of the gold standard

I agree that it is a step in the right direction because inflation of the money supply would be controlled.

However, for the dollar to be standardized, the government would need to be in charge to enforce this. The gold standard has already been tried and it has failed because the gov't didn't stick to it. Wouldn't a system where the people didn't have to rely on the government to do "the right thing" be better?

From my learning, the best solution is to repeal the legal tender law concerning the U.S. dollar. As it is now with this law, if I refuse a payment because I don't want to accept U.S. dollars, the debt is considered annulled. So, if this law was repealed competing medium of exchanges would be able to flourish as people could refuse the U.S. dollar and accept the medium they preferred.

Also Columbo: the dollar is not worthless--even thought it is still a paper currency, people still widely attach value to it. As long as people continue assigning worth to it, it will not be worthless.

Just want to note that I

Just want to note that I highly recommend Murray Rothbard's What Has Government Done to our Money? It really helped to clarify some of my thinking on this issue.


Here's a free .pdf of it if you're interested: http://www.mises.org/rothbard/rothmoney.pdf

Ron Paul...

...does not believe it would be realistic to go back to a gold standard, he doesn't even plan to abolish the federal reserve if he is elected, he just want to bring competition to the dollar in the form of gold and silver currency, which would of course greatly profit the central banks and weaken the dollar even further, paving the way for the amero...

read and educate yourself... http://www.nolanchart.com/article290.html

Yes, he wants to bring in competition...

He wants to do this by repealing the legal tender law on the US dollar. If this was done, the Federal Reserve would not need to be abolished--it would die off from the competition.

However, would this pave the way for the Amero as you claim? Possibly. But, as long as there is not a new legal tender law forcing people to accept it as payment, we could keep using the medium of exchange that we prefer. So, the introduction of the Amero wouldn't pose a problem.

Regarding your statement that competing silver and gold currencies would greatly profit the central banks, I believe that might be incorrect. Yes, if the price of gold and silver appreciates, the central banks who have holdings in them could profit accordingly (if they sold). However, that is just one of the effects. For example, the Federal Reserve is a central bank, and as I mentioned the competition would eventually kill it off. That is much more devastating that some profits it could potentially realize from selling its gold and silver holdings!

Another effect would be that the value of all other paper currencies would decline relative to any gold and silver currencies. If the good you're business (here the central banks) is producing is now worth less, your business has become less profitable. Thus overall, I suspect that competing currencies would have very detrimental effects on central banks.

Latest Pathetic Mud-Slinging Attempt Smears Ron Paul...

....Lewis E. Lehrman, the co-author of Ron Paul's 1993 book "The Case for Gold," was later a signatory to the infamous Project For a New American Century document, a pre-9/11 Neo-Con blueprint which yearned for a "new Pearl Harbor" to justify U.S. military expansionism across the globe.

The fact that the book itself is a sober argument for a return to the gold standard is ignored while Paul's affiliation with Lehrman is seized upon as evidence that Ron Paul is a "Zionist shill" and "part of the New World Order."

Of course, anyone with a shred of common sense would realize that a 10-term Congressman stretching back over 30 years would have had relations and affiliations with all kinds of people whom he didn't necessarily agree with on a host of issues.....

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_mudslinging_attempt_zionist...

Re: giving the gov't the control over the money supply

I think that would be incredibly dangerous to give the government a monopoly like that. As Milton Friedman once said:

“We have forgotten the basic truths that the founders of this country knew so well, that the greatest threat to human freedom is a concentration of power within the hands of government or anyone else."

Of course the Federal Reserve system that is in place now is even worse--it's a government granted monopoly to private corporations.

I think the best solution is to leave the money supply up to the people.

ROFL

your comment makes me vomit.
what a joke. so a guy knew a guy who then later becomes some scumbag.
I bet you knew a few people who later became scumbags, do you not? Does that make you as bad as them?
So a guy shows you something about Paul that he considers to be bad, you just suck it right up and regurgitate to everyone else?
What sounds familiar is this ridiculous 'conspiratorial' viewpoint on everything that doesn't purely go your way.
Ron Paul, the only decent politician by far that has a chance and is picking up momentum...gets thrown in the garbage to you as some shill because he doesn't committ political suicide by agreeing with us on 9/11.

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"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments."
Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science, section 191
German philosophe

Look at this shill

Look at this shill "FredHendrik" jumping in to sow division and inject anti-Semitic disinfo garbage. People are pissed at Ron Paul and rightly so on one level, but the guy made a mistake that’s all. And he has already called for a new investigation, so it’s clear to me he was suckered and manipulated into agreement by Beck here, who knows what was in the "Threatening Video" (other than agent provocateur feds) it might have really thrown RP.

wow,. you will go to slander to defend your boy RP ?

there is nothing "anti-Semitic" about FredHendrik's comment,. PNAC was never an institution of the "simetic" people ?

it is sad that some of you are so far up RP ass that you have to belive in things that man has never said, and in face denies publicly!!! and then come up with eleborate myths to keep him in the truth movement where he has never actually been,. and to slander people for dissagreeing with your loonyness is just sad.

Thank you!

I'm not anti-anything exept anti-criminality or anti-injustice.

I would recommend Cynthia McKinney actually for she dares to defend the truth!
We don't know if Ron Paul will do that even if he gets elected!
At the moment he is a disappointment for 9/11 truth.

More important even is NOT the choice for the right canditate for there might be none to save us, but to keep educating the people through street-action, etc.
Every street-action counts, the votes...we simply don't know!!!

I really don't hear Dr. Paul "disparaging" or "disrespecting" us

Glenn Beck cunningly intertwined himself getting serious death treats with a missile hitting the Pentagon & remote-controlled planes at the WTC. I think Dr. Paul handled this devious line of questioning very well.

Furthermore, I don't think the Glenn Beck Show, at this point in time, is a good venue for Dr. Paul to reveal that 9/11 was an inside job.

"Furthermore, I don't think

"Furthermore, I don't think the Glenn Beck Show, at this point in time, is a good venue for Dr. Paul to reveal that 9/11 was an inside job."

Then perhaps Dr. Paul should choose his venues more wisely/strategically/pick your word.

And...I'd say that any venue is acceptable to announce that 9/11 was an inside government operation. You don't?

Exactly,

why would the Beck audience swallow Beck's lies and spit out Beck's truths?
They swallow what EVER Beck tells!

YT: Ron Paul has "used the truth movement as a base...

for his campaign" ? I would disagree. As far as I know, his campaign hasn't tried to consciously garner support from the 9/11 truth.

He has indicated that he thinks government investigations are more or less coverups. But I haven't heard him ever say that 9/11 was an inside job.

And YT, regarding people telling you to have faith in him--don't! Faith is defined as the trusting in something despite an absence of evidence. Therefore, it's is opposed to reason and it is thus irrational.

When?

"Then he told us to keep quiet and stay away so we don't hurt his chances."

When exactly did he do this?

Paul Is A 9/11 Skeptic But ...

But obviously he can't 'go there' so to speak, in the middle of a presidential race. And I don't think his supporters should try to compel him to support 9/11 Truth until the election process is over.

As for Glenn Beck's following quote provided for Ron Paul's consumption at the end of the interview (right after the completely debunked missile at the Pentagon question):

"The planes that hit the World Trade Center towers were remotely controlled."

Does Glenn actually believe that low grade, substance abusing, non religious patsies with U.S.girlfriends and a tendancy to purchase adult videos, actually flew the 9/11 planes into U.S. targets?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/191207Beck.htm

What he should have said...

If he is was on our side is, "Glenn, for years, the media, yourself included, have tried to frame the questions of the 9/11 Truth Movement by citing only a few examples of some of the theories that have taken shape. Those theories only exist because those who should answer our questions about that day, refuse to do so. However, the legitimacy behind the claim that we need a new investigation into the attacks is solid." Nothing wrong with a statement like that during an election cycle. We made that man who he is, and he's turned his back on us. That's how I see it.


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Jon: has "he turned his back on us" ?

As far as I know he has never said that 9/11 was an inside job. If that's correct, then he never was "with us." And if he never was "with us", how can he have turned his back on us?

P.S. I think your "what he should have said" statement is really sharp! However, I don't think Ron is very knowledgeable on 9/11 and thus he wouldn't feel confident saying that. But, if he ever does become knowledgeable that would be an excellent line for him to use.

To not even acknolwedge...

That there is a "problem" (several as a matter of fact) with the official account, and that we need a new investigation that holds people accountable for their actions, is turning his back on those who got him to where he is today. I guess that's an opinion, but I really can't see any other way of interpreting what he's done.


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