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9/11 Skeptics Receive Fair Shake on Showbiz Tonight - Video Download
Tonight marks the first instance where those that question 9/11 were given a fair shake at voicing their opinions. While little can be said in just 10 minutes of coverage, it was at the very least a reasonable discussion and an important milestone for the 9/11 truth community. 911truth.org's media coordinator Mike Berger did a great job with the short time he was allotted while the host A.J. Hammer allowed for a good live discussion and avoided the all-to-familiar Bill O'Reilly style of 'news'.
Despite the numerous questions surrounding 9/11 which have gone unmentioned by the mainstream media for the last 4+ years, and the growing number of respectable scholars, government officials, and family members demanding answers - this is the first time a major news station has covered 9/11 questions in any reasonable format, even if it was on a Hollywood celebrity show. If the mainstream media were to truly desire to cover 9/11 further I would hope in the future they might consider a longer format so that all of the news and facts they haven't bothered reporting over the last 4+ years might have a chance to finally be seen and heard. (Hey Showtime and HBO, are you listening?)
I urge all of those who support 9/11 being further discussed by CNN and their affiliates to contact them via their feedback form here. Be sure to reference the host A.J. Hammer, and the show 'Showbiz Tonight'.
Note: You can find more on Sheen's recent comments here.
Update: You can find the following night's broadcast here.
Update: There are a bunch more articles related to the Sheen coverage, use the search bar on the archive panel on the left to find more.
Special thanks to our Canadian friends at stoplying.ca for posting their recording!
Going to bed.
Going to bed. Congratulations to everybody... it's not over yet.
Pretty amazing, when you
Pretty amazing, when you think about it. Showbiz Tonight leading the way on responsible journalism, (mainstream-wise anyway) and four plus years later. Maybe the laws of physics have been repealed.
Better than nothing but I
Better than nothing but I think the time should have been used to hammer at the controlled demolition point because thats all you need. That woman just babbeling about the demolition theory was hilarious. I would have taken her down rite there. They also still refuse to play that WTC7 clip. Im sure it will get more people curious tho. Good timeing with the rawstory ad for sure.
Jaybird, You gotta
Jaybird,
You gotta understand, the fireproofing was blown off the buildings, thats all you need to know right there.
Uh.. WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane, uhmm, what was WTC7 again?
You see, the 80%+ remainder of the structures may have been structurally sound, but obvsiously it shouldnt provide any resistance at all to a collapse, and a freefall collapse is exactly what you should expect! see, its easy to believe in B.S.
Oh yea. Thanks dz. I was
Oh yea. Thanks dz. I was wrong all along.
A truthers' boycott of
A truthers' boycott of National Geographic seems appropriate after their spokeswoman's misleading remarks tonight!
What was her deal? She says
What was her deal? She says we should ask questions but then acts like everyone should just accept her version of the story. Maybe her experts and our experts need a showdown on facts. People: continue asking questions! I think she hasn't done her homework.
Prophet http://www.haloscan.c
ask kevin spacey about the
ask kevin spacey about the documentary that failed to metion wtc-7 put out by national geographic,didnt he narrate it?
online coverage of the Sheen
online coverage of the Sheen 9/11 story:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=13434#
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27264270.shtml
My CNN comment for tonight
My CNN comment for tonight broadcast:
Showbiz Tonight* Excellent job with the topic of 9/11 and the conspiracy brought to your viewers attention by Charlie Sheen. I have been researching 9/11 for nearly four years and aggree with Sheen We deserve a REAL investigation. Sadly this is the closest to a fair and accurate report seen in the media to date almost 5 years later. Hopefully those of you that have the ability will continue to push the 9-11 Truth Movement completely into public arena. You really have a powerful role to play and I thank you for tonights broadcast but realize this must be only the beginning. Thank you!!
Wonder what kind of hits
Wonder what kind of hits they are getting over at 911truth.orgs website and here as well. Anyone know?
My comments to CNN: On
My comments to CNN:
On Showbiz Tonight, Nicole Rittenmeyer of National Geographic, tries to counter Mike Berger's assertions, and says that "some of those issues are easily answered."
She goes on to say that: "The fireproofing was blown off the buildings. There has been tons of research..... it looked to untrained people to be controlled demolition, but experts have evaluated this again and again and again and it's pretty self explanatory."
Self explanatory, Nicole? The three World Trade Centers towers that fell on Sept. 11th were the first and only steel framed buildings that have ever collapsed due to fire. These buildings all fell at near free-fall speed - which, by itself - defies any rational explanation except controlled demolition. Some will say that these were the first buildings that were hit by a plane and THAT is difference. Well, the Empire State building was hit by a large plane many years ago and it did not fall. And Building 7 was hit by no plane, had two small fires, yet collapsed in fashion exactly like controlled demolition.
Perhaps Nicole is referring to the "experts" of the FEMA report on the collapse of the towers. That report, like the animations that were repeated during your segment totally IGNORES the existence of the 47 truss reinforced steel columns making up the core of the World Trade Center towers 1 and 2. The editors of Fire Engineering Magazine called it a "half baked farce."
The official followup report by the "experts" at NIST, in fact, changes the FEMA theory and postulates that the bolts connecting the floor trusses to the central columns failed. Yet, NIST refuses to show the calculations or the models that explain this thesis. Their theory goes up to the moment of INITIATION of collapse and does not in any way explain the actual collapse. To this day, NIST has not given any real explanation as to how Building 7 collapsed. We await their contractors report, due in May, with bated breath!
Steven Jones of BYU and a member of Scholars for 911 truth (st911.org) and Jim Hoffman at wtc7.net have both thoroughly debunked the FEMA and NIST reports. I suggest you get them together with some NIST officials to discuss their theories. Now THAT would be interesting television.
Now would be a good time to
Now would be a good time to fill Jon Stewart's INBOX with requests for Charlie Sheen to be on his show. Sheen is articulate, funny, photogenic, *and* clearly passionate about this issue.
Comedy Central doesn't make it easy to email them (you have to go through FAQ), but if we flood them now with requests, then . . .
Ask Jay Leno to book Charlie
Ask Jay Leno to book Charlie Sheen. email: tonightshow@nbc.com
Randy, I think Jay Leno is a
Randy,
I think Jay Leno is a shill, I doubt he would give Sheen the time of day..
just my 2 cents though, do what you can!
The problem cannot be the
The problem cannot be the part of the solution.
SS, st911.org setup their
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I think better than The
I think better than The Daily Show would be The Colbert Report. Steven is so subtle with a sneaky left hook and I bet he would love to hate a Hollywood liberal conspiracy nutcase like Sheen. And he would do an excellent job for the truthyness movement.
jay leno works for a defense
jay leno works for a defense contractor
Nicole Rittenmeyer knowingly
Nicole Rittenmeyer knowingly lied in stating that WTC-1 & WTC-2 collapsed because the planes blew away their fireproofing.
As supervising producer of National Geographic’s 9/11 “documentaries”, Ms. Rittenmeyer damn well knows that a plane did not strike WTC-7, and that it also collapsed that day. Since WTC-7 collapsed without having “its fireproofing blown away” why must the cause of collapse of WTC-1 & WTC-2 be that their fireproofing was blown away. Ms. Rittenmeyer is deceitful in purposely ignoring that WTC-7 collapsed without having its fireproofing affected whatsoever, when according to her, this was certainly the cause of WTC-1 & WTC-2 collapsing.
The three buildings did collapse similarly due to a similar reason: controlled demolition with explosives!
Jay Leno is a freakin
Jay Leno is a freakin idiot.
Jon Stewart & Colbert all the way! Jon with the "oh no you did´nt!", and colbert with his super patriotic irony.
That would be fuuuureeeeeakiin´ awesome.
Of course, it did happen
Of course, it did happen from the fire, the fire proof was blown off the building, there are tons of research, thereÂ’s a lot of evidence out there that suggests, itÂ’s been examined and reexamined, it looked like a controlled demolition for untrained people, but experts have evaluated that again and again and again.
Nicole Whitmeyer?, National Geographic
Debunking talking points;
• Not all experts agree with this, aka http://www.st911.org
• Steven Jones debunks NIST and other paper-theories already. (In this paper ‘Why indeed did the WTC Building collapse?’)
• The experts who agree with this thesis were paid for by government or government agencies. Who orders the band determines what kind of music to play.
• In fact, there is no evidence that they evaluated a controlled demolition, besides a short mention in the NIST report.
• All steel beams evidence that wasn’t shipped over to China show only minor heat damage.
• The fire wasn’t that hot as they claimed
• Fire proof blown off- everywhere, in the same way? Don’t forget you have a symetrical, fast forward and straight down implosion in less then 10 sec.
• There are some hints that they omitted hard facts, like the 47 interior columns in the WTC or the exterior wall at the Pentagon to reach their conclusions.
• They even admit that they adjusted facts to reach their conclusions, but without saying details. Why not release them? Scientific examination means repeatable modelling, too.
• Why does the modelling stops at first crumbling? What about the rest of the demolition?
• To this day, no conclusion why WTC 7 fell was presented. Instead they offer a challenge for scientist to come up with the best fitting theory.
• Don’t forget the firing of Kevin Ryan, Underwriter Lab, after critizizing NIST report. What exactly was the reason for his firing?
• What exactly is the difference between untrained people and trained people? Was Van Romero trained enough?
It's best to direct
It's best to direct debunkers like this NG lady to two lucidly written and abundantly documented articles, both thoroughly undermining the NIST report.
Jim Hoffman: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/index.html
Steven Jones: http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
I'm spreading this clip far
I'm spreading this clip far and wide
Hey guys, damage control is
Hey guys, damage control is hard at work here, have your say:
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CNN´s slogan: “CNN,
CNN´s slogan:
“CNN, The Most Trusted Name In News”
- I say, youre beginning to show that, but theres still a long way to go. Its been almost 5 years, so they have a lot of catching up to do.
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