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NIST IMPLICITLY ADMITS: WTC TOWERS DESTROYED IN CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
Re: http://www.911blogger.com/node/12002
[Note: I will be speaking with Kevin Ryan, a leading expert on the NIST cover-up, at the Peoria Public Library at 2 pm this Saturday, 10/20/07, 107 N.E. Monroe St., Peoria, IL 61602]
In an amazing about-face, the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) has implicitly admitted that its 10,000-page report on the destruction of the Twin Towers is a fraud, and that the buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.
In its recent reply to family members Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine, scientists Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, architect Richard Gage and the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, NIST states: "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse."
Thus NIST euphemistically admits that its 10,000-page report on the Towers does not even pretend to provide any explanation whatsoever for the Towers' total collapse--and that indeed no such explanation is possible without invoking the politically-incorrect idea of controlled demolition.
NIST'S 10,000-page report purports to explain what it calls "collapse initiation" -- the loss of several floors' vertical support. In order to dream up this preposterous scenario, NIST had to ignore its own tests that showed that virtually none of the steel got hotter than 500 degrees f. It had to claim that somehow the planes took out many core columns, despite the fact that only a direct hit by an engine would have been likely to do so, and that the chances of this happening even once are fairly low. It had to preposterously allege that the plane that nicked the corner of the South Tower took out more core columns than the one that hit the North Tower almost dead center. It had to tweak all the parameters till they screamed bloody murder and say that the steel was far weaker than it actually was, the fire was far hotter than it actually was, the sagging was far greater than it actually was, and so on. And so NIST hallucinated a computer-generated fantasy scenario for "collapse initiation"--the failure of a few floors.
But how do you get from the failure of a few floors to total collapse at free-fall speed of the entire structure? The short answer: You don't. Anyone with the slightest grasp of the laws of physics understands that even if all of the vertical supports on a few floors somehow failed catastrophically at exactly the same moment--a virtually impossible event, but one necessary to explain why the Towers would come straight down rather than toppling sideways--the top part of the building could not fall THROUGH the still-intact, highly robust lower part of the building, straight through the path of most resistance, just as fast as it would have fallen through thin air.
Thus total free-fall collapse, even given NIST's ridiculous "initiation" scenario, is utterly impossible. The probability of it happening is exactly equal to the probability of the whole building suddenly falling upward and landing on the moon.
Compare this to a hypothetical case in which forensic evidence proves a victim was shot in the head three times at the foot of a cliff, but the body was found at the top of the cliff. The sheriff, who has the most to gain from the man's death, brings in NIST to explain how the man shot himself in the head three times and then fell upward 200 feet to land on the top of the cliff. NIST produces a 10,000-page report claiming to explain the event. The 10,000-page report ignores all the forensic evidence that the man was murdered, offering endless pages of scientific gobbledygook distorting all the forensic evidence in such a way as to show how a suicide actually could manage to squeeze off three head-shots, and offering a scenario explaining how "upward-fall initiation" took place.
After we read the whole 10,000 pages, it turns out that "upward-fall initiation" simply means that the man lost his footing after being shot. Okay, say Steve Jones, Kevin Ryan and friends, then after he lost his footing, how did he fall upward? NIST responds: "We are unable to provide a full explanation of falling-upward."
It is not surprising that NIST cannot explain a scenario that blatantly violates the basic laws of physics. What is surprising is that every newspaper in the world is not printing screaming front-page headlines reading NIST IMPLICITLY ADMITS: WTC TOWERS DESTROYED IN CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
We need a revolt of the scientists!
This is one of the most important articles I've read in a long time.
If you know any scientists, please print it off and give it to them.
You may be getting closer to the mark, Galileo.
For we do not live in a culture of science... we have found ourselves living in a world of anti-science, The Ivory Tower of Science.
As children these last many decades, we are instructed away from childhood honesty discoverable and repeatable on the playground, through half-books and truncated (incomplete) formula in the classroom. Through higher school, we are dazzled by the imperative that only through Collage will we be granted the Diploma of Authoritative Knowing. Continuing this ill-fated course, we prove our Authoritative Knowing by submission (guaranteed by great financial debt) to the faith in Letters, rather than the proof in weights and measures.
NIST has crafted it's own proof in undermining common needs of ALL in uniform weights and measures, by abusing false words and Letters as if positives. This is truly a sick moment for Science.
The hitch is that for a revolution in science, we are asking Scientists to reevaluate the vast majority of that which they have imbibed as Truth (and often still owe The Bank)... to see it merely as Faith... Belief, unknown, quite possibly false... shattering. Something so unwanted as to generate the strongest of cognitive dissonance... to be resisted... to be fought... to be denied... at great cost to all if need be.
A revolt in Science... at a networked time like this... would sweep the globe faster than light. That is, unless you still believe nothing can go faster than the speed of light. Or that tangentially asymmetric force can produce a perpendicular reply into an absurd string of symmetrical reactions. Hummmmm?
I think you'd need some mathematical TNT to get a formula like that to produce a tidy little pile.
Anyone else think it ironic Al Gore is warring Nobel Gold to bolster his loose calculus? It's the only thing that can so far.
Revolt of scientists
uh that top clip is complete
uh that top clip is complete bullshit - where did the oceans of water come from ? Just materialize from nothingness? Seriously.
Read up on current theories of planet formation, you know the ones that don't leave out important details like explanation of the oceans.
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From nothingness??? hardly
uhhh ... what's the primary constituent of solar wind?
What makes metallic rocks rust?
What's the predominant state of all known matter? (Hint: Not a solid, liquid, or gas.)
What do you have between an anode and a cathode?
Can a "positive" be measured between the differential of two "negatives"?
What's the best conductor in a near perfect vacuum?
As one location erodes, another location must _____?
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WHAT??!?!?!?
Tell me this is all tongue in cheek. Please. Decades of geologic and astronomic knowledge are screaming in rebellion inside my head..
Continents DO NOT float whillie-nilly, any more than ocean currents are willy nilly.
http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/vwlessons/plate_tectonics/part1.html
"The lithosphere (from the Greek, lithos, stone) is the rigid outermost layer made of crust and uppermost mantle. The lithosphere is the "plate" of the plate tectonic theory. The asthenosphere (from the Greek, asthenos, devoid of force) is part of the mantle that flows, a characteristic called plastic behavior. It might seem strange that a solid material can flow. A good example of a solid that flows, or of plastic behavior, is the movement of toothpaste in a tube. The flow of the asthenosphere is part of mantle convection, which plays an important role in moving lithospheric plates."
GRRRR! ARRGH!!(more inarticulate outraged noises)
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Are you sure that this advances 9/11 Truth?
Good clip on the John Gross evasion and outright lies.
I find it odd that you would consider the clip on fringe geology to be relevant to the discussion, and that you would consider it to have enough substance to warrant posting. Even if there is a case to be made (and I remain extraordinarily skeptical), it is at best tangential to the thread, and at worst gives yet another opportunity for the world at large to dismiss us as loons.
Those if us here in 9/11 study, "loons" for sure : )...
... we claim some advantage in understanding political science, because we lay claim to understanding in better depth that which our sElected Officials should know but for whatever possible reasons prove or pretend, they don't. They don't discuss false flag terror. They pretend that a discussion of physics makes a "Conspiracy Theory". They call questions "unpatriotic".
They tell us how bombs can deliver peace and prosperity. If we say that doesn't make sense, an Opposition Party tells us how they could use bombs better for even better peace. Economic Science tell us how 2 minus 3 equals 5. Medical Science through the FDA approves dangerous symptom suppression, while blocking near-harmless cures found in nutrients and natural compound. Ecological Science tells us how carbon dioxide will be the end of us. And a National Institute of Standards and Technology tried for all its might to tell us how symmetrical collapse can be produced from asymmetrical force, damage and fire.
Sure as hell if not... a revolution in science will come, or an outright revolt be imperative, if we don't want such "Science" to kill us.
But let's say we survive, I'm an optimist.... a rough road ahead I still wonder if one does not want to become familiar with the death throws of Red Shift's Expanding Universe theory, the bust up of Big Bang cosmology, the need of radically sliding scales for radiological decay dating, and dare I say it... dare I... gravity flux, z-pinch galaxy and celestial formations, perturbation-tolerant orbital tracks along flattened concentric planes (for gravity alone is not supposed to do this!!!).
... the implications of periodic 8 kilovolt per meter atmosphere spanning hundreds of square kilometers here in earth
... deep inside cold dark sunspots, WTF?!?
... multi million degree temperature inversions defying thermonuclear "understanding".
... where deceleration of coronal mass ejections "is known to be the only way possible", we empirically enjoy the thrill of witnessing continued acceleration as it passes all the planets ... and beyond. (again, gravity is not supposed to do that)
... THE 49 MOONS OF SATURN, damn it!!! (one of my favorites) I mean, now there are 52 GORGEOUS MOONS!!!!... and those are just the ones even NASA acknowledges as Officially named "to date".
... Godzilla-like monster lighting that can attain altitudes of at least 85 kilometers (dear Columbia was only 63 kilometers up when she burst into saddening flames)
"Was late Permian really 260 million years ago? Geologists consider this figure accurate, along with the "known" age of the Earth. And it's all backed by absolute radiometric dating techniques. Fifty years ago, they were equally confident of a different age, and another age fifty years before that. But this time they're sure they've got it right."
I may not be a real fan of the swelling earth model, but I'm not about to let fossil dating or erosion calculus stand in my way of looking at it.
"Two of the basic assumptions on which radiometric dating is based are that the Earth is an isolated body in space unaffected by interactions with other bodies and that the decay constant is a constant. No matter what, no matter where, the half-life of a particular radioactive isotope remains the same."
Like the first quote from an unmentionable source, the others here must also go unnamed... for distraction, delay, disruption of hard workers... is the "Order" of the day. I'm satisfied that enough clues and reminders have been presented here, that industrious and truth-seeking investigators will get a boost, as detractors will struggle as they should.
For example: "Plasma geology is a virgin field for curious and enterprising investigators. In this age of scientific conformity and consensus truth, are there any geologists left who have a sense of adventure?"
Seeking the truth behind 9/11, is NOT for the conformist, faint of heart, nor especially for Science as Science is today. "Loons" of the highest human character we are. If raising doubts across the board because 9/11 proves exception to the Rule... then our revolution in a great many things is well underway.
That geological
explanation you have listed above is utter BS.
If it were true which it isn't then how could we have Marine Fossils from an excess of 565 Million years ago?
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2004/08/16/nf_fossils040816.html
In 24 years as a Marine biologist I have never heard such a thing which BTW my main subject of research is cyanobacteria (basically Algae) & Microcystins (toxins) which has been positively dated to have origins around 3.5 Billion years ago coming from the Archaean period coastline which means the alleged "hypothesis" above can not possibly be correct.
and what does this have to do with the original post anyway?
In the spirit of healthy discourse...
... my reply above, http://911blogger.com/node/12027#comment-165283 was also written to address your comment as well. (like you, I too have experience in live and dead cellular research.)
Why the low score...
Why the low score?? Why would someone vote this one down??
"911 was an Inside Job"
Good Question
cualcrees, your question speaks volumes and the sound of the down votes is deafening with silence. Perhaps it's a popularity vote without any regards to content. I agree this admission of omission from NIST is huge, why would it be voted down on a forum such as this one with 15 votes already turned it?
Read some of the comments below
And you'll understand why.
(although I didn't vote for this one at all)
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The deafening silence
The silence from the corporate/alternative press is equally deafening in this case as it was when it was revealed the FBI had "no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden with 9/11". Why is The Nation and The Progressive, etc, etc, not mentioning any of this?
The silence is so deafening from these outlets as to scream outright complicity. I feel like I'm in fucking 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' (the '78 version).
Sorry TN
Sorry TN for echoing your excellent statement, after I read your post earlier went off line and was thinking about what to post, absently forgot how impressed I was with the creation of your phrase, thereby plagiarizing you ... my bad, your good, please accept apologies : )
I am not so sure that they are admitting anything implicitly.
Although I think that the evidence for controlled demolition is extremely strong, I have trouble seeing that NIST has implicitly admitted anything. Maybe my powers of spotting implicit messages are lacking, but my own view is that the headline is just way, way too optimistic. If this quote is correct: "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.", attributed to NIST, it is important, but let's not over-interpret the evidence. They have given us an opening; maybe clever people in the Truth community can exploit it. There are very many openings that we have exploited over the years. The opposition itself is very clever, and powerful, and has managed to deflect many of our best thrusts.
Yes, a question of strategy
I also would tend to question re-interpreting their message and putting that out in headlines to the public. It's a tactical way to try to get people's attention, but it feels contrived, confrontational, and intentionally egging them on. I may be wrong, but I'm not sure that confrontations will win this for us.
If I were a NIST employee who maybe knew some things but was on the fence, I'd probably be annoyed by this and pushed toward a defensive position. That's the only place left for them to go when we -- in their eyes -- twist their words around and put it in their faces.
Sometimes even just adding a single question mark in a headline can change the whole tone.
I think that's why the low votes
Someone above asked why anyone would vote the story down. While I didn't vote it down, the hyperbolic headline and analogies did bother me. It's not exactly scientific to conclude that controlled demolition brought the towers down (as strong as the evidence is) because NIST admits it can't prove its theory. It's a very Prison Planet way of spinning something.
Useing the word "implicitly", explicitly NOT "explicit".
But too close for comfort, so I gave it a 9 for as you say 'spinning the Prison Planet way'.
I agree...
... that this particular NIST statement falls way short of "implicit admission". Kevin is reaching here.
Frankly, I am concerned about the leaders of the movement who make unfounded sensationalist claims. Looks like Kevin has spent too much time around Fetzer.
exactly.
headlines like this will hurt our movement and damage our credibility. NIST didn't "implicitly admit" anything! What they did say is very important and damaging, but if we sensationalize it and post headlines like this it will turn people off.
"I will not withdraw from this war even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." -George W. Bush
Hold on, Kevin
When we twist people's words, we discredit ourselves.
NIST admitted nothing about demolition. They just said they stopped trying to explain it, because that's all they were either allowed, required, or asked to do.
Putting words in people's mouths is an obvious low grade ploy to drum up support. Many people will see right through this headline and say that we are untrustworthy spinmeisters who take advantage of every opportunity to be sensationalistic.
I would agree with them.
I don't see how this NIST letter has said anything new, that we didn't already know. They have no intention of investigating further, and are simply blowing off the people writing to them. They are "unable" and unwilling to investigate the causes of the total collapse, and don't feel they have to answer to the American public. It is the Bush regime that pays the bills over at NIST.
This may have limited value to highlight their unwillingness to explain their theories. It certainly is not an admission of controlled demolition.
That's why I voted it low.
Reality Check
NIST is required under the law to explain the collapse of the WTC. Given that there are 2 explanations floating around in the public discourse; fire or controlled demolition, the statement by NIST is an implicit endorsement of controlled demolition.
When you say 'implicit' you are NOT putting words in someone's mouth, and in fact are explicitly saying you are not doing that.
im·plic·it /ɪmˈplɪsɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-plis-it] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. implied, rather than expressly stated: implicit agreement.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/implicit
You would have to deny that the controlled demolition theory exists to argue that Kevin has put words in anyone's mouth.
If you know a NIST scientist, I would send this article to them pronto.
Please don't post stuff with which I agree
I'm kidding, of course. Hey, if we can't laugh at ourselves and each other, who can we laugh at?
It's more than a bit of a stretch to take what NIST stated in their letter and morph it into an "implicit admission" of any kind, whether "of controlled demolition", or "that their report is a fraud".
And, Kevin's comments of "Thus NIST euphemistically admits that its 10,000-page report on the Towers does not even pretend to provide any explanation whatsoever for the Towers' total collapse..." is also incorrect.
Haven't they pretty much, if not exactly, always made the claim that they don't know what happened after "initiation of collapse" and that they never even looked into what happened after that and don't know what actually caused the full collapse?
So I think Kevin is going to have to retract this blog.
Hey, we all make mistakes. (not as many as johndoraemi, of course, but we all know that....... ---------- I'm kidding! — ;o) )
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To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. — Abraham Lincoln
Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. — Robert Heinlein
So what ever happened to that blog you were working on?
The one where you were going to prove that, although you admit the WTC collapses LOOK like Controlled Demolitions, you were going to take a couple of weeks to write a blog showing how they WEREN't Controlled Demolitions. LeftRight was giving you some pointers, remember? Wasn't that in the spring? What happened? Was looking forward to it, I was:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/6758#comment-124602
Since Barrett is a close associate of Tarpley and Fezter, you probably won't get voted down JUST for critizing him. No, any down votes you get will be because of your PAST here, sunbeam.
Long memories, we have...."fellow truther".
4:Know your History
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2433
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Love you too
"The article is still in production."
LMAO!!!
SInce March? LMAO again!
And even though you think CD is "counter productive" and "divisive"--you're going ahead with an article that "proves" there was no CD at WTC 1 and 2? And you expect that WON'T be "counter productive"?
At least you're good for a laugh, "fellow truther"! ;-)
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Nearly (mathematically) perfect symmetrical collapse...
Can not be produced by asymmetrical (mathematically gross) damage and fire.
Trying to prove the inverse negative (a falsehood) simply can not be done. The best someone can try (as in pop-[S]cience gymnastics, antithetical to provable/repeatable science) is to dizzy the laymen with 10,000 pages of gobbledegook, such as The NIST Report.
This all reminds me a bit of Earnshaw's theorem of inverse-square law force... but applied to gobbledegook rhetoric. The harder one may try and prove their insistence that a steel ball can be balanced on the head of a pin by increasing the weight of the ball (like 10,000 pages of words)... only sharpens the pin.