Kucinich Statement On 9/11 Issued September 10, 2007
I do not endorse Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul for that matter. At this point, Ron Paul lost a lot of credibility with me, and I have to see just how far Dennis is willing to take this regarding 9/11. Both of them would have to open the dialog regarding 9/11 much like these candidates (need realplayer 45:49) did before I would consider voting for either of them. - Jon
Posted : Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:43:36 GMT
WASHINGTON, Sept. 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following statement was issued this morning by Ohio Congressman and Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich:
"Let us on this day mourn for those who tragically lost their lives on 9/11. And let us commit that their lives not be lost in vain, but become the basis for a new America of peace and justice. America must regain the moral high ground in our efforts to recover from 911.
"Let us not forget the world was with America in our sorrow on September 11, 2001. The world was prepared to unite with America in a cooperative effort to challenge terrorists who attempt to disrupt civil society. Instead, the Administration used 9/11 as an excuse to attack a nation that did not attack us. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, or with Al Qaeda's role in 9/11. Iraq did not have the intention or the capability of attacking the United States. Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. Yet the Administration deliberately and falsely conflated 9/11 with Iraq, with the cooperation of an unquestioning media.
"As a result, nearly 4,000 of our brave soldiers have lost their lives, and tens of thousands have been permanently injured in combat in Iraq. The subsequent occupation has fueled the insurgency and will continue to result in more troop losses until the United States leaves. Also, nearly one million innocent Iraqis have lost their lives as a result of this war. This violence against an innocent people is a tragedy of immense proportions. It is also a violation of international law, and those who authored this war must be held accountable for their actions.
"Americans will spend close to $2 trillion in Iraq by the time the costs of this war are totaled, but the longer term costs have included the undermining America's moral authority in the world, the separation of America from the nations and the peoples of the world, and the destruction of a domestic agenda which is being deferred while we borrow money from China to fight the war in Baghdad.
"We need to call those who used 9/11 to take us into war against Iraq to an accounting under the U.S. Constitution, U.S. law, and international law. We must soon begin a period of truth and reconciliation in our own nation. We must have forums of open dialogue throughout the country where we can come together to remember who we were before 9/11, to share our personal narratives of the times when we felt most secure, most in love with our nation, most trustful of our democratic institutions. We must recover our capacity for civic action. We must reclaim our nation. The only way we can do that is to tell the truth."
Kucinich for President 2008
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To clarify...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de1_1185477767
I didn't like that.
A "Full And Complete Accounting" Of The 9/11 Attacks
More of the same...
Hey Jon,
Did you add the 'kucinich for pres' line at the end? If so then it seems you've been swayed which I find hard to believe. This special 9/11 comment is more of the same from Kucinich.
If you read his special comment closely he is not claiming to be fore 9/11 Truth, for a new investigation...
It's basically a ploy, using 9/11, for votes in 2008. There is no concrete declaration of action....something that Kucinich has been lacking since he first started talking about his 'limited inquiry' into only 'two discreet' issues involving financial matters relative to 9/11.
So apparently these sekrit issues will be 'discussed?' in a (sekrit?) hearing sometime in Sept. 2008?
I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt when he first started talking about this limited inquiry. But as time passes he confirms over and over that he is either afraid to address 9/11 Truth head on or he is knowingly stalling on the issue and also using the 911 Attacks to get some extra votes.
I mean 2008? Come on Dennis! And what's up with this special inquiry of his? Is it going on now or is it REALLY something that will happen in 2008 as I've read recently?
Why no information on this special inquiry?
Can't Stop 9/11 Fever
No I did not.
A "Full And Complete Accounting" Of The 9/11 Attacks
oh ok...
Couldn't tell because of the quotes ending before.
So do you support DK over this release or do you agree with my own point of view? I can't see how any can support DK if 9/11 Truth is an important issue to them.
Can't Stop 9/11 Fever
If...
"We must reclaim our nation. The only way we can do that is to tell the truth" means re-investigating 9/11 or holding those responsible accountable, then I support this statement. Which is why in my statement I said, "I have to see just how far Dennis is willing to take this regarding 9/11."
A "Full And Complete Accounting" Of The 9/11 Attacks
He has gone 100X further than any other candidate to date
Kucinich is doing everything he can do, however it is 'We the People" that are failing him not the other way around.
If 50+ Million Americans got off their damn fat ass and protested by the millions and maybe torched Faux News then his Impeachment resolutions would have teeth.
If We the People went by the millions to our city councils and demanded they pass Resolutions of Impeachment against the Bush Cheney crime machine then he could some things done.
If we all set back and expect ONE man to take on all this rampant corruption then he will fail every time.
Sadly We the people don't do a damn thing. WE are the problem .
and if 9/11 truth is your only issue then you only have ONE Party to choose from, The Green Party.
This is right on their Party Platform front page..... http://www.nyc911initiative.org/
along with http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
There are numerous Green Party candidates that are 9/11 Truthers plus 9/11 truth is part of the party platform so if you are a Green Party candidate then you support 9/11 truth.
Now I dare you to show me one candidate from either Dem/Rethug that are even close.
This problem is because of the sheer stupidity of the American public we are being given the vehicle of which to combat these treasonous war criminals yet we shun it and keep on voting for the same BS every election, that is the very definition of Insanity.
Any of you even pretend to want real change then you only have one option. http://www.gp.org/index.shtml
Unlike the other oliticians,
Unlike the other oliticians, Kucinich has integrity.
You can count on it.
really? based on what? the
really? based on what? the way he shilled for war-monger Kerry in 2004? or the way hes jerking us around by delaying his little investigation into 9/11 by a year? i gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long. not anymore. i hope he proves me wrong but his history shows hes a bit of a steam valve if anything.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
WTF is the matter with you people
Kucinich backed Kerry only when he basically had no choice, it was either Kerry or Bush so of course he was going to back Kerry.
yeah, and to me that proves
yeah, and to me that proves he puts his party above his principles. you cant tell me the Dems, especially Kerry's views on the war at that time fit Kucinich's views better than say the Green party or independents. it was painful to see him not only endorse Kerry but go to the convention and shill for him. i get it, the Dems are the lesser of 2 evils and he was doing what he had to do with the endorsement but to go that extra mile and tell America how great John Kerry is? the guy was an empty suit and you know it. he didnt say shit about Ohio for a reason. and what really got me was how he all of a sudden changes his limited investigation from this year to next. why? he doesnt say. what exactly is he looking into? he wont say. Kucinich is proving to be a typical politician who says a lot of the right things. The Dems wont save us, they never will. i stand by my opinion that Kucinich seems to be nothing but a steam valve, and he will surely endorse Hillary(maybe give a speech at the convention again to galvanize the anti-war crowd into supporting her like he tried to do with Kerry?) when the time comes. and the game goes on........
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Is it confirmed that he
Is it confirmed that he changed the date of "his" investigation to next year?
If so, I pretty much agree with both the substance and tone of this post. Means he is just buying more time, hoping people will forget or get tired of the issue.
US politicians do the steam valve thing or the bury the story thing all the time.
I am utterly sick and tired of it. By the way, they do it so often because it works. People are happy in the moment, then they forget. It's human nature and one very good reason why our political views should always be based on reason, not emotion. Emotions provide good, high-octane, temporary fuel. Reason is what gets you where you want to go.
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yes, he changed it. it
yes, he changed it. it appears hes using us like hes used the anti-war movement.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
If It's Confirmed
Do you care to provide a source?
PJ
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Are You Kidding Me!
Asking someone to cite a claim is a reason to vote down a comment!? I thought this was 9/11 Truth!?
PJ
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double post, sorry. "The
double post, sorry.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
i believe this is the video
i believe this is the video where he says its going to be 2008 as opossed to the previous date he set of this very month. he gave no reason for the year long delay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYpgCt-s808
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
I saw That Video A Long Long Time Ago
Nothing in that video changed. Nowhere does it say anything about 2008. At no time does he mention 2008. Please find a source that does.
Thank you.
and because I asked for a source before, here is mine.
PJ
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ask anybody on this site.
ask anybody on this site. its 2008. i figured this was common knowledge around here now. sorry i cant help with the original source, i thought it was that video but obviously i was mistaken. the fact remains that Kucinich changed it from this month to next year, 2008.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Party Over Principles
I can think of a certain someone who does not want to impeach because of their membership in a certain political party . . . .
PJ
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did you vote for Kerry?
did you vote for Kerry?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
No
I voted for David Cobb.
My vote would not have counted anyway since I live in a red state so I voted for the best candidate from the best Party.
Your vote ALWAYS counts
"Always vote for principle. Though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
~~ John Quincy Adams
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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
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With the Electoral College
NO it does not.
Millions upon Millions of votes each election are thrown in the trash LEGALLY then you have the actual fraud take over from there like it has the past 2 s-elections.
The electoral college is largely responsible for the extremely low voter turnout and it is 100% responsible for why we do not have viable 3rd parties.
It stopped being even remotely useful about 100 years ago.
Limited investigation
If Kucinich won we would probably get a new investigation, but it would not be so great. We would probably get a little bit more truth out of it, like we might get more about the Saudis, or the CIA's relationship with MAK, or even war games and Cheney's whereabouts, but I really doubt we would get the whole deal. I think the same goes for Ron Paul. It would be like a Joint Inquiry Mk. II.
Kucinich is for an investigation
I recently saw Kucinich at a small town forum. When asked if he would have an investigation to find the truth of 9-11 he responded with a defiant "yes" and then took the next question. I got the impression that is as far as he feels he can go if he is to remain in the race and not be crucified by the media. Later he said he had sponsored legislation to have limited investigation of 9-11 of two particular issues that have not yet been resolved. He said he could not reveal what those two issues were. So make of it what you will. I just applaud him for saying as much as he has. And I think the 9-11 Truth deserves a great deal of credit for creating the climate in which he feels he can speak out albeit in this very narrow, restricted way.
I always felt that we are
I always felt that we are push the wrong buttons. Politicians won't do a damn thing unless there are massive media pressure on an issue. And in order to penetrate the medias we need helps from the celebrities. We need to educate our celebrities. We need to target those who are not afraid to speak out. Those who already establish their fame and got nothing to lose. Think about it if we able to organize a new group of well known celebrities to speak out at the same time. People will start listening. Its a shame it has to be this way. Mainstream Media is the biggest obstacle of them all. I'll say to those who try to call or spend your time on your local officials on this issue should focus all your attention and massive emailing or posting on celebrities sites or even speak to them face to face instead.
Remember Paul Wellstone?
Rep. Kucinich and his wife know ALL about 9/11.
They just choose to play the D.C. insiders game as they see fit. They would be instantly marginalized (or worse) were they to come out publicly for 9/11 truth. It would be a small one day event in the media and then they would simply disappear from the msm. End of story.
Look at all the press Rosie is getting and she's much more of a public figure than Kucinich.
Come on, people, we know how the game is played. Cut them some slack.
When the people lead, the leaders will follow.
Get busy!
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Wellstone was murdered
Wellstone was murdered because he held a CRUCIAL seat in a CRUCIAL district in a VERY CRUCIAL point in history. they needed that seat so bad it was literally worth killing over. Kucinich is small fries compared to him and is already pretty well marginalized by the media. the most difference he could make is by actually looking into 9/11 already and by not dragging his feet and "playing the game". im not gonna make excuses for him now that he already burned us once and refuses to tell us what hes looking into. whos he really playing games with?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
"His" investigation was/is
"His" investigation was/is secret, limited to two small issues, and now it is being delayed exactly one year. If he was under pressure, why did he make the promise for 2007? If he suddenly just came under pressure, what good is he? What's the big difference between internal and external "pressure," when it comes to politics? If he is and was under no pressure, then he is full of bullsh*t. My guess is he is playing games, hoping to garner a bit of support from 9/11 Truth without pissing off anyone else. How is that different from Hillary talking about ending the war "once she is president," but voting to fund it today? I am sick of all of them. I will give Kucinich a tiny bit of wiggle room on this, but he has basically lost my confidence. Face it folks, there is NO ONE in mainstream politics worth anything at all.
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JFK on secrecy and the press
Agree with every sentence in your post, Alvin.
Sad situation, really. All of them (politicians) act as if they know for sure that the 9-11 truth will never come out. Otherwise, someone would have jumped on it, already. There is one thing a politician is good at -- sniffing out an opportunity. Think about it -- what would be a better vehicle to get elected than to expose the 9-11 fraud? People would make you a saint!
Since nobody has jumped on 9-11 yet, I can only conclude that those at the top have zero belief it will ever get out. Which is really ominous -- to think that after so much blatant, in-your-face evidence has surfaced, that they would prefer to perpetuate this fraud.
I'm no fan of Kucinich, and I'm not here to defend him,
I'm just trying to provide a possible explanation for his actions.
If he has decided to wait until September 2008, I would guess that he is doing this so that:
1) He will no longer be running for President,
2) His staff will have the best possible case to present,
3) This will be his "October surprise" for certain high profile people and he'll get more bang for the buck.
While I would NEVER vote for him for anything, he has shown that he is a very adept tactical thinker.
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Hope you are right, but I
Hope you are right, but I doubt it.
He showed his hand with the one-year delay.
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JFK on secrecy and the press
which is why
the only candidates worth voting for are Green Party candidates.
What is the only party that fought to expose the 00' & 04' election fraud? Green Party
What is the only party that actually places 9/11 truth on their party platform? Green Party
The only Party that has done everything it can to abolish the pathetic Electoral College? Green Party
The only party that has always been Green and wants to make REAL changes to combat Global Warming by taking the US off of the oil teat? Green Party
The Green Party is the antithesis of politics as usual, lying ass POS politicians that are doing only what the top 2% want while throwing the rest of the 98% under the bus.
green is easily the best.
green is easily the best. its so sad how the majority of americans always go for the lesser of 2 evils. most "democrats" would be better served by the Green party yet they still vote Dem every time out of habit/conditioning. i try not to call my fellow americans sheep but its so hard not to sometimes.......
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
Maybe Kooky did a Bat-turn,...
....'cause he didn't want to be Gillmored
September 11, 2007 at 09:58:57
9-11-2007- WHAT'S GOING ON?
by Carol Wolman Page 1 of 1 page(s)
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_carol_wo_070911_9_11_2007__what_...
Going into Labor Day weekend, there were lots of rumors anticipating a false flag operation, another 9-11. Trainloads of armored vehicles rolled into Houston. The San Francisco Bay bridge closed for three days. Suspicious activity was reported on ferries in Puget Sound. Ominous civil defense exercises are being held in Oregon, as part of Operation Noble Resolve, which also involves military jets flying over New York. An antiaircraft division is ordered to Washington DC.
We made it through the holiday safely.
Then last Wednesday, Congressman Paul Gillmor (R-OH) was found dead in his home. This was reported as a heart attack, until word leaked out that he had blunt trauma to the head and neck. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20649320/ Now we're being told he fell down the stairs. Gillmor was investigating a series of option trades that are suspicious- someone is betting billions of dollars that the market will fall 50% by September 21st. Even with the housing crisis, it would take a major catastrophe, like a "terrorist" attack, to precipitate such a plunge. As part of his job on the House Finance Committee, Gillmor was investigating this deal. Was he murdered because he was about to reveal something?
Would this death, on top of the deaths of Senators Wellstone and Carnahan, and the anthraxing of Senators Daschle and Leahy, have a chilling effect on people in Congress? Maybe that's why they're "spineless".
Now we learn that on August 30th, six nuclear warheads were "accidentally" shipped by B-52 from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. (Five arrived, did one get "lost"? Or is someone unable to count?) This violates all military procedure, which requires that nuclear weapons always be shipped on the ground in the continental US, so that if there's an accident, a bomb detonation won't occur. It would take an order from the Commander-in-Chief to put nukes on a plane.
The warheads were reportedly fastened to cruise missiles, which have a range of 1500-2000 miles. Not enough to cross the Atlantic, but enough to hit cities in the US as part of a false flag operation. This scenario is being claimed by "military investigators" on the Hal Turner show, and is making its way around the internet. It's being said the plan was to hit 5 American cities with nuclear weapons over Labor Day weekend in order to install martial law. If so, we have been saved by the grace of God, operating through loyal American whistleblowers, who made the "accidental shipment" of nuclear warheads public.
Now we are told that the entire Air Force will stand down on September 14th, for overhaul and review of procedures. http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_stan... Our skies will be unguarded for a day, and our vulnerability has been announced to the whole world. It's an open invitation to America's enemies to attack us. The last stand-down, unannounced ahead of time, took place on Sept 11, 2001. What's planned for Sept. 14th, 2007? Oddly enough, El Al, the Israeli airline, will not be flying planes that day either.
What is going on? One of my most anti-conspiracy friends says he believes it's a giant conspiracy. What do you think? and how can we nip it in the bud?
Let us pray that honest, conscientious, loyal Americans will abort whatever evil plot is in the works, just as someone "outed" the nukes on the B 52 on August 30th. Let us remember that many such evil plots have been headed off- the fourth plane that did NOT hit Congress or the White House 6 years ago (which would have initiated martial law) , the anthrax that did NOT wipe out the whole Senate (thanks to alert postal workers and doctors at the Communicable Disease Center), the lie about "yellowcake from Niger" that was exposed by Ambassador Joe Wilson (at great cost to his wife Valerie Plame, and to all of us who were being protected by her undercover CIA network), and many others.
What to do? Talk about the Sept 14th stand-down and your suspicions, write about it, protest about it. The truth will set us free. God is with us, with We the People. We are being threatened with great harm by those in power who are supposed to be serving us. If we shed enough light, if we make enough noise, if we love our country and our planet, we will finally be able to overthrow the pirates who have hijacked our ship of state, and bring them to justice.
Impeachment now!
In the name of the God of truth and justice, Carol Wolman
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