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Dublin Club cancels David Ray Griffin's 9/11/07 lecture Due to Threat of Protest

David Ray Griffin's lecture scheduled for September 11th at the Sugar Club in Dublin, Ireland, has been canceled by the club manager. The club manager writes, "members of the local Jewish Community are planning to stage a protest outside The Sugar Club on September 11th 2007 because of the nature of the talk you planned to stage here."

An email exchange between Morgan Stack of Ireland, and the club manager can be read here;
http://www.911truth.ie/sugarclubyellowbelly.html

David Ray Griffin is not an anti-semite, nor does he equate 9/11 skepticism with a "Jewish" or "Zionist" conspiracy. So the protesters appear to be misinformed about the "nature of the talk", and now this has blown into the cancellation of an important lecture with very little time to secure and properly publicize a new venue.

Griffin is one of the authors featured in 9/11 and American Empire Vol. II: Christians, Jews and Muslims Speak Out. It should be made clear to the club manager and owners that this is a bad decision. Please write to the club manager and ask him to reconsider. The protesters could give be given free tickets, (as long as they don't disrupt), so they can see that their fears are unfounded. If they hold their questions till the Q&A session, I'll bet that Griffin will answer them.

email: info@thesugarclub.com
phone: +353 1 6787188
fax:+353 1 6787199

Good!.......

We need him in New York on 9/11/07

This is...

The result of how the media portrays us, causing people to assume that the "nature of the talk" is about how the "Jews" pulled off 9/11.


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More Likely It's the Refusal to Purge Your Ranks of Anti-Semites

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I'm wondering...

Why is it do you think this Administration hates subpoenas so much?


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Maybe we....

can get Bush & Cheney to answer that question behind close doors,with no media,and recordings?

And not under oath?

Been there, done that...


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Brainster-"duh, what does

Brainster-"duh, what does Zionist mean? anti jew right? duh........"

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jews_against_zionism.html

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

We have no "ranks" to purge

There is no organization. There is no central authority. Everybody speaks, even the anti-semites (real and disinfo clowns).

What would you propose we do? "Purge" the Internet?

If I went to your website and started posting pro-debunker and anti-semite speech, would that make all debunkers anti-semites?

This whole "guilt by association" ploy is a cheap propaganda tactic. Why don't you spend more energy defending the 9/11 Commission and its report? Maybe because you know that it is a fraud that can be quantified and debated, unlike spurious attacks on an unspecified "membership" of 9/11 Truth.

Reasonable Point

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I hardly know who Morgan Stack is

and he's so incredibly irrelevant to 9/11 Truth, I'm not sure I need to know.

For the sake of this discussion, I looked him up. Apparently, he has published anti-semitic nonsense. Griffin should not associate with his kind.

I will, however, grant Griffin the benefit of the doubt. He travels and publishes extensively. It's possible he had no idea what Morgan Stack has written, and only knew Stack as someone who waves the "9/11 Truth" flag. Again, we can't control membership. There is no party.

I also have to wonder how often you have been to a public event where you did not know everything everyone in the room has said or written over the years?

Bottom line: If Stack is a bigot, then he can go to hell. But Stack is not 9/11 Truth.

Morgan Stack is a spacebeam proponent

who, along with Jim Fetzer and Kevin Barrett, rushed to throw his support behind the Kennebunkport Warning when the veracity of the document and its alleged signatories was called into question.

Why aren't you doing your bleeding "job"...

..over in these threads?

http://911blogger.com/node/10997
http://911blogger.com/node/10925
http://911blogger.com/node/10947

Or even at your "blog"?

Thought YOU were supposed to be a "debunker", not us. Didn't you lot brag about how you're always on top of everything? But not a peep about this out of you prats for going on near a week. What could keep you away from "twoofer bait"?

It makes one wonder, it does...

NOTE: I'm leaving this thread now. Just needed to make that wee point for posterity...

When your opponent is self-destructing...

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Self-destructing?

Or self-regulating?

Weeding a garden helps it grow stronger and more beautiful.

I'm sorry, this guy just isn't on the up and up

Brainster is another professional disinformation agent, presumably on the payroll of the 9/11 perpetrators. The problem isn't that he disagrees with the 9/11 truth movement. It's that he cryptically seeks to sow confusion and demoralization on readers here, rather than frankly share ideas and shed light on the complex matters involved. There are scads of these agents that've come to the fore in recent months, haunting places like the comments section on YouTube.

This may be becoming a serious challenge to the 9/11 truth movement. It's also an entirely predictable response by the perps to the rising levels of interest and support for 9/11 truth on the Internet and elsewhere.

What an idiotic comment!

He's 'needed' where he was booked, Dublin, Ireland.
Your reaction is that of the pea-brained, missing the point completely.

Hmm, I guess...

speaking on "Myths vs Reality" cuts a little too close to home for some. Can't have the Sheep questioning historic or religious myths. After all, that's a double edge Sword for Zionists.

..and remember not all

..and remember not all zionists are Jewish (many Christians are) and not all jews are zionists, like Rabbi Weiss from "Jews United Against Zionism" for example.

..and this raises one

..and this raises one EXTREMELY interesting question :
are "jews" against 9-11 truth and if yes then WHY ?
clearly, they don't have anything to hide, do they ?
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"Listen carefully now : DO NOT DESTROY OIL-WELLS" Dubya

I don't think so, many must

I don't think so, many must be misinformed like other people the like but it seems to be a more critical issue to Jews in general because of the alligations towards Israel regarding 9/11 (though not all Jews support the zionist created homeland of Israel idea)

The question is inherently bigoted

Are "jews" against 9/11 Truth? The structure of such a question is inherently bigoted, because it assumes "all jews" believe something. It would be just as flawed to ask if "Christians" or "Irish people" or "Icelanders" are against 9/11 Truth. Within any ethnic or religious group, there will be variation. People who do not recognize variation within groups are usually bigots.

Adding "they don't have anything to hide, do they?" is inciting prejudice. No, "they" don't have anything to hide, because not "all" Jewish people were connected with 9/11. Again, please refrain from bigoted assumptions.

If you have an accusation against a particular person who happens to be Jewish, then you should present that accusation in all its particulars. Would your accusation stand up in a court of law, or is it just speculation and hearsay? That's for you to decide. But I hope we can elevate the discourse around here beyond such leading questions like the one you pose above.

So, no, I don't find your question "extremely interesting." I do find it "extremely interesting" that it took all of one day of open comments for this sort of thing to appear.

bullshit ..

First : did you note the " " around "jews" ?
Second : Can you prove that the so-called neo-conservatives are not zionists ?
Third : Can you prove that "Urban Movers" and "The Dancing Israelis", who where on Israeli TV claiming they where there "to document the events"
is a "anti-semitic" neo-nazi dis-info conspiracy ?
And YES I do have an accusation against a person who is "jewish"; (note the " ") his name is.. Larry Silverstein .
Not to mention all the "jews" (note the " " ) who are co-signers of the PNAC document ..
You want 9-11 TRUTH ? then you must look at ALL the persons involved, "jewish" (note the " ") or not .
But I get your message : If there is a "jew" under one of the stones that is turned we better not turn it . AIPAC says so .

Last : Who gained from 9-11 ? The Palestinian "State" ? Taliban ? Muslims ? I think NOT .
but a whole bunch of "Old Testament" crazies, including so-called "american christians" have made fortunes....
And just for the record : No "jews" in my country got exterminated in the death-camps (yes, they are real) a fact that we are still proud of .
If need be we would get "them" out of harms way again .. sadly, I'm not so sure the same applies to muslims.
So you can shove your calling me a "biggot" or "anti-semite" UP YOURS

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I think the "" were there to

I think the "" were there to highlight certain words.
And yes, everybody needs to be investigated.

I agree

Peter I agree with you wholeheartedly who really cares what race they are It doesn't matter to me if it was muslims Christians Jews black white yellow or blue, if your hands are bloody with 911 guilt your going down.

If people keep throwing anti semitism around like Paris Hilton's underwear its not going to be as effective and there going to lose it as one of there weapons

Your response is so off the wall

I'm not sure we're even talking about the same thing. I stand by my original critique.

And, no, I never said suspects who are Jewish should be ignored. Read my response.

Hoax

>>"Dr. Morgan Reynolds Directed Energy Weapons Lawsuit is Unsealed"

I notice this is posted on that website -- http://911truth.ie -- why? Why would anyone consider claims of "no planes" or "directed energy weapons" at the WTC a benefit to anyone but our detractors?

Here's what his claim is in this lawsuit :

"Relator, in a Request for Correction dated March 8, 2007 (hereinafter generally referred to as March 8 RFC), copy annexed as Exhibit A, challenged NCSTAR 1 in its entirety based on the Data Quality Act Section 515 Public Law 106-554 and based on NIST’s admitted failure to determine what caused the destruction of WTC1,2, and further based on the submittal of proof that the actual cause was obfuscated by use of false, misleading and fraudulent simulations seemingly showing how hollow, aluminum aircraft could impact with structural steel and nonetheless, glide right through such steel structures (WTC1,2) from nose to end of its tail and wing to wing and leave an airplane shape, no less, all as though this event were a cartoon much like the Roadrunner; or much like a hot knife through butter."
http://www.911truth.ie/docs/MorganReynoldsLawsuit.pdf

http://911truth.ie/

Fast moving objects do cause

Fast moving objects do cause "roadrunner" impressions as they impact other objects dependent on materials and speeds

"David Ray Griffin is not an

"David Ray Griffin is not an anti-semite, nor does he equate 9/11 skepticism with a "Jewish" or "Zionist" conspiracy. So the protesters appear to be misinformed about the "nature of the talk"..."

Or are they?

Easy 49-minute MSM intro to the Israeli connection to the "Neo-cons" (BBC, "War Party"):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4667039539703585825

For those who haven't seen these...

Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land

Zionist War Crimes

"The important thing is to not stop questioning" - Einstein
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" - Einstein
Many hands make light work!
RRREMA=realize, recognize, reconcile, educate, motivate, activate

this actually aired on a

this actually aired on a local tv station around here(Philly area), i was very surprised. i highly suggest it(Peace,Propaganda and the Promised Land). i'll have to check out the other one too.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA