Reality Check: The U.S. Government actually created Al Qaeda?
Orangutan. Thu, 08/09/2012 - 10:52am
Posted: Aug 08, 2012 8:31 PM CDT
By Ben Swann - bio | email: bswann@fox19.com
Direct Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcZKso_Z6M8
http://www.fox19.com/story/19232163/reality-check-the-us-government-actually-created-al-qaeda
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And CNN weighs in...
CNN: White Supremacists Could Be A Bigger Threat To Americans Than Al Qaeda
This guy is laughable.....
This guy on Democracy Now, Daryl Johnson, was contacted by then Senator Obama, I think I heard that right, to check out right wing extremist "chatter" in the US. He came up empty handed.
So then he wrote a completely speculative position paper and now is passing it off as gospel. It is as lame as "The Pelican Brief...." remember when she was shocked by her own writing?
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/8/9/former_dhs_analyst_daryl_johnson_on
agreed
my paranoid mind instantly jumps to the idea of creating the enemy you (the cia? mic wants to fight next. a la so many 'domestic terrorist' instances recently.a la gladio, etc. 'justify the civil liberties (ha! further!?*#!?*) crackdown and turn to the right.' i just find it difficult to believe ANYTHING anymore that i hear on the news. reading l fletcher prouty's 'the secret team' too much. excellent for insight into 'the way things/the world/us action therein work. sigh.
Hillary , while pretending to come clean.........
....still plays fast and loose with the truth.
Notice how in her statement in the video she indicates that the US only started funding the anti-government, Mujaheddin fighters AFTER the Soviets invaded Afghanistan? We know now that this was not the case. Zbigniew Brzezinksi, Carters National Security Adviser, admitted in an interview to a French newspape, Le Nouvel Observateur, that the US actually started providing support for the fundamentalist, jihadist fighters BEFORE the Soviet invasion. The hope was that if these fighters could cause enough trouble for the Afghan government, the USSR would send in their army to assist the Afghans fight the insurgency, and in that way the USA could give the Soviet Union "its Vietnam war" (in Brzezinski's words).
A snip from the interview republished at Counterpunch.com:
See also this story about how over a period of 20 years the USA supplied fundamentalist, jihadists in Afghanistan with the text books used in Afghan schools to brainwash young Afghan students in the ways of violent jihad, hatred of non-Muslims, Muslim fundamentalism etc.
That looks right to me....
With the added note that nothing is mentioned about the 'stans. The idea, was, I think, to also radicalize Muslims throughout the region i.e. in what is commonly refereed to as the 'stans and weaken the underbelly of the Soviet Union.
The big question is: "why then did we set the same trap for ourselves?"
answer
I think the answer is because they hate us for our freedom.
'They' and 'us'
RIght. That 'they hate us for our freedoms' line has a whole different ring to it here as compared to how it's usually fed us by politicians and the corporate news media. 'We' did not set a trap for 'ourselves.' 'We' did not create a false-flag event in order to deceive 'ourselves.' The mass of the people need to stop thinking of their country's policymaking elites as 'we,' and instead think of them as the 'they' that they are.
Rhetorical Question
It was a rhetorical question, after all: why did we fall for our own trap and hoist ourselves on our own petard? Yet, still, I am interested in the next installment of the crap narrative that they come out with. Afghanistan is where empires go to die and I would like to see who has an excuse for thinking this time it would be different. One niggling thought I have is that the they are not our elites but some other entity and that the Russians were sent in there to do a job that they failed at and then they sent the A team in. Like in tournament play wherein we got the bye in the first round. It is not that far out there when you look at the absurdity of history. After the bloody carnage of World War I, around twenty years later, someone actually thought that Europe would be a good site for a land war.
with you
on the rhetoric. And the opium trade seems to be a success for them already. The dollars are still flowing that way as well. What more could they ask for? Peace? Democracy?
Core of Corruption cancelled
As an aside, if people here haven't heard the news, Jonathan Elinoff has cancelled his CORE OF CORRUPTION series and will never be releasing the completed sequel ECHOES OF TREASON, which is depressing. The sequel was in production for 3 years, featured new info and interviews (including one he did with Atta's girlfriend, plus others with whistleblowers from Wall St and elsewhere) and more. Someone please get him drunk in a bar someday and get him to spill the beans on what was in his movie, as being teased with hints and promises about it for years in a row and hearing him hype it in interviews and on radio did make me somewhat keen to eventually watch it.
Bummer on Core 2
Was looking forward to that.I say chop up the footage and fish it out to Alex Jones, James Corbett, ect